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Blog entry by dbhost posted 04-18-2011 03:53 PM 4996 reads 0 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch

LOML and I were at the BORG Saturday picking up some potting soli for her lillies, when we were standing in the checkout lane when I saw something oddly familair…

Wood Magazine special interest publication “Best Ever Home Shop Ideas 2011”, but I don’t have this magazine, so why should it seem so oddly familiar?

Well upon opening up the display copy I found that every single article, everything except for dates, and advertisments, is EXACTLY the same as Best Ever Home Shop Ideas 2009….

I guess I don’t need to bother with this one!

I know there is only so much that Wood Magazine can cover, and they tend to reuse articles, but the whole stinking magazine? What were they thinking?!

If nothing else, I have seen TONS of new home workshop ideas here alone in the last 2 years that are FAR better than what Wood Magazine has in that publication. Perhaps they should publish some of those as a new magazine?

Okay my rant for the day is over, back to getting actual work done…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com



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ken_c

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#1 posted 04-18-2011 04:08 PM

I hear that! They have been recycling those things for years.

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dbhost

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#2 posted 04-18-2011 04:16 PM

Well, recycling an article or 2 I can understand, but the whole magazine?

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jim Bertelson

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#3 posted 04-18-2011 05:07 PM

Wierd….....it wouldn’t take much to change a few things. But if they can sell them, it works for them I guess.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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HokieMojo

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#4 posted 04-18-2011 05:11 PM

I thought the point of those issues was to send out to new subscribers. Once you have subscribed, you don’t keep getting those special issues. I could be wrong, but I’ve subscribed for several years now and have never received anything resembling a duplicate.

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dbhost

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#5 posted 04-18-2011 05:26 PM

Not that I am aware of. I never got that as a new subscriber. I only see them on the newsstands…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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HokieMojo

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#6 posted 04-18-2011 05:43 PM

I guess what I’m saying is that they’ve got a few that you could get as a new subscriber. I got one that was all about useful shop jigs. If you look at the publication date, it doesn’t actually have a month on it, just a year. It isn’t a part of the magazines that get sent out to continual subscribers.

I’m not sure if I am explaining very well, but if you go here:
http://www.woodstore.net/woodbooks1.html#top
you can see the various ones that they offer.

If you go here (assuming the link works):
https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/MR/WDM/Woodvideo2.jsp?cdspageid=94638&cdsmagcode=WDM&id=1303141187232&lsid=11081039468047102&vid=2&cdstoid=video%
lsid=11081039468047102&vid=2&cdstoid=video

You can see what I mean about the “free special publication” that they are currently giving to new subscribers. It is on the right hand side of the screen.

I guess I’m just saying that I think they repackage the old content because they aren’t sending it to subscribers anyway. You’d only buy it if you wanted it, regardless of the year printed on the front.

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Garry

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#7 posted 04-18-2011 05:51 PM

My shop was in the 2009 Best Home Workshops Across America published by the same outfit that publishes Wood Magazine. As a matter of fact it was Marlen for Wood that contacted me and asked me to submit m shop for the 2009 issue.
The owner of the shop does not receive anything from them other that a copy of that issue of the magazine. I asked the interviewer (which was not Marlen) if they would sent me a disc with the photos that were taken for the artical and he said that they should be able to do that. When all was said and done they would not send me a disc with the professional photos. Marlen from Wood Magazine wrote me back and said those photos were their property and I could not have copies of the photos of my own shop. I was not happy and I did let them know.

Then the same outfit wanted to publish another magazine for ways to spruce up shops woth tool racks, holders etc. They contacted me again and wanted me to spend my time to take some closeup photos and other documentation of some of the specified tool holders and send the photos and info to them with reward other than a copy of the magazine they were to publish. Needless to say that I did not do as they asked, but I did receive a copy of the magazine when it was published which had photos of some of the things in my shop which were taken frome the original photo shoot of the shop artical.
Then about two weeks ago Marlen from Wood Magazine emailed me to ask if I would take a video of the shop with specifc guidelines and send it to them. The text in the quotes is the intended use of the video.

The editors at WOOD are currently putting together a DVD of the shops that
have appeared in WOOD magazine and our newsstand specials over the years. In
addition to the numerous shop articles that have appeared in our
publications, we’d also like to include a video of your shop in this DVD.
” I did not respond so about a week later I received anothe email from Marlen from wood magazine looking a video and if I did not have a camera they would mail one to me to take the video of the shop.
I emailed him back with this response

I don’t have the time to clean up the shop for a video shoot.
It took a lot of time to clean last time for the photo shoot and you would
not even send me a copy of the photos taken.

Then the reply

Garry, thanks for the reply. As I previously explained, the images are copyrighted images owned by Meredith Corporation. All publications retain their images in this same manner.

Marlen Kemmet
WOOD Magazine Managing Editor

A few years ago Fine Woodworking Magazine published the Downdraft Sanding Bench that I desinged and built in one of their annual Tools And Shops publication and they treated me well.
I think the people at Meredith Corporation which produces Wood Magazine just sucks the life out of everything and everyone they can for the buck.

Sorry for the long rant but felt since the subject was brought to light that it would be an opportunity to enlighten the fellow jocks and blow off some steam.

-- Garry, Engadine, Michigan (Upper Peninsula)

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#8 posted 04-18-2011 06:09 PM

Garry,
I can see why they wanted photos of your shop. It is an incredible looking space to work in!

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Mark D.

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#9 posted 04-18-2011 06:18 PM

Here’s what gets me about your situation Garry…. Regardless of who holds the copyright on the images, nothing prevents them from providing you with a copy for your personal consumption. This is what happens when you go to a professional portrait studio… Until you purchase the rights for the images from them, they hold the “negative” and will not give you a copyright release to have them printed elsewhere (even if you’ve purchased digital copies) Copyright, and distribution of copyrighted works for private consumption are two very different things… Their entire magazine falls under copyright correct? They own the layout, the images, the text, etc… but they still provided you with a copy of that… What makes a CD of images any different? Depending on how worked up you are about it, I would hire an intellectual property attorney and have them review the contract you signed when engaging in the transaction with Meredith Publishing and find out if you have any recourse since they used your shop again without further authorization. Especially if they published any plans, shop drawings, or details of any device, holder, jig, or fixture in your shop without some further release from you. This would be considered reverse engineering of your intellectual property. Just some food for thought… I’m not out to make anyone law suit happy, but if someone tells me they’re going to do something for me and they don’t, I tend to get a bit irritated and nasty…

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dbhost

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#10 posted 04-18-2011 06:39 PM

I wonder, if copyright law states that copyright is automatically granted to the creator of a work, isn’t the subject of that photo shoot, in this case, your shop, copyrighted? It seems pretty lousy to me that publishers want free access to copyrighted works, but refuse to reciprocate. It is however unfortunately part of the publishing / media business. For what it’s worth, I have seen your shop in print Gary, and it is beautiful.

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Garry

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#11 posted 04-18-2011 07:54 PM


Reply to Mark D.”
Their entire magazine falls under copyright correct? They own the layout, the images, the text, etc… but they still provided you with a copy of that… What makes a CD of images any different?

Those were my thoughts exactly. All the tool racks, expanding table and such that were in the aritcal, they had me do the sketches and provide them with dimensions.

And now they want me to line their pockets again.
Hiring an attorney is out of the question. The cost would be prohbitive.

Thanks for the reply.

-- Garry, Engadine, Michigan (Upper Peninsula)

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Garry

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#12 posted 04-18-2011 07:58 PM

“Reply to dbhost
I wonder, if copyright law states that copyright is automatically granted to the creator of a work, isn’t the subject of that photo shoot, in this case, your shop, copyrighted?

I doubt that is the case, I never asked them to sign anything that would protect me.

Thanks for the comments about the shop.

-- Garry, Engadine, Michigan (Upper Peninsula)

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davidroberts

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#13 posted 04-19-2011 12:11 AM

I bought one three or four years ago and actually built a couple of their projects. They have some pretty good ideas. And then I bought one last year thinking it had new stuff. I got home to find out it was all repeats, down to the photos and captions. I took it back but Lowe’s said they don’t give refunds on magazines. I said it was just repeats and they finally relented and I got a refund. I saw the latest edition on the bookrack and didn’t even bother to pick it up. I guess there will always be folks looking for ideas, if they haven’t seen it, it’s new to them.

-- God is great, wood is good. Let us thank Him for wood......and old hand tools.

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~Julie~

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#14 posted 04-19-2011 02:59 AM

I would think there would be some compensation for not just allowing your shop to be photographed, but also for providing sketches and dimensions. Doesn’t that make you a contributor, or article writer? I would think they would send you something more than one magazine… at least a years subscription or a fee for your time.

-- ~Julie~ followyourheartwoodworking.blogspot.ca

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Garry

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#15 posted 04-19-2011 03:52 AM

Reply to Julie

Nope, notta.
I just wnated to share what I had with others. I get a lot of emails about the shop and thought the artical would help others with their shop endevors.

These companies are all take and no give.

-- Garry, Engadine, Michigan (Upper Peninsula)

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