Tool Gloat

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Blog entry by davidroberts posted 03-27-2010 11:32 PM 1648 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

OK, I’ve got a tool gloat. I normally only buy woodworking tools used or on sale. This purchase is arguably one of my best. Reguarly $119 at Lowes, this Porter Cable 4210 Type 1 12” Dovetail Jig (for half blind and sliding dovetails) was a display and had been marked down a couple of times. When I saw it the price was $50. But that’s not what I paid. I know dovetails are the center of the universe for some, but I have never cut a dovetail, well a few sliding dovetails on the router table, but not the showy kind on drawer sides. I was in Lowes Tuesday evening picking up some screws and saw this PC dovetail jig on the clearance table for $50. I thought that was a good price and maybe my start into dovetails, but no box, no bit, no collar, no hex wrench and missing a knob. Otherwise it was fully complete. I hesitated and a young kid employee said several customers had looked at it, but no sale. It was at this time an older employee said it was just about worthless because of a missing template. I know what a template looks like but who am I to argue with a seasoned Lowes sales pro. I ask the kid to mark it down further due to the missing parts. Those replacement templates can be pretty expensive. The kid said I had to provide proof of the value of a replacement template. I went home, printed out the template from Amazon at $60, and drove back to Lowes. I don’t think the kid was paying much attention and I quickly wore him down to $25 and brought it home. I ordered the missing knob and wrench for $6.74 plus shipping that night. I have the collar and will buy the bit another day. Not bad for an ol’ peckerhead. I ought to be ashamed…hehe


-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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#1 posted 03-27-2010 11:59 PM

I’ve got the 4212, and have been REALLY pleased with it.

I’m sure you’ll love your new toy, too.

Sure, I hate your guts for the price you paid, but … that’s MY problem, and … I WILL get over it :-)

Congrats on the new toy!!

-- -- Neil

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#2 posted 03-28-2010 01:13 AM

Yeah, you should be ashamed. Well, so should the employees that they didn’t know what they were looking at…
So, let’s see what you can do with it, come on, you have had for how long now?

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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#3 posted 03-28-2010 01:16 AM

If your anything like me the price just makes up for the 100 other things you overpaid for or the gas money spent driving back to return items with missing or broken parts. Sometimes your the windshield and sometimes the bug. I only wish my Lowes would mark one down to $50 its a great deal at that price!

-- Paul--- Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. — Scott Adams

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#4 posted 03-28-2010 01:17 AM

Shame, shame, shame.
My Grandfather always said, ‘a price-tag is only a starting point’.
He is smiling at you right now!
Good job. Enjoy.

-- Before you louse it up, THIMK!

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#5 posted 03-28-2010 01:37 AM

“I ought to be ashamed…hehe” No you shouldn’t, but if it really gets to bothering you, the next time you drive through Kerrville you can drop it off at my place.

-- jstegall

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#6 posted 03-28-2010 02:51 AM

wow, I have been looking at these for a while after a friend showed me how useful his was. they are all full price in my neck of the woods. I will continue watching like a hawk for them to come down in price. Congrats and thanks for the heads up.

-- Every neighborhood has an eccentric neighbor. I wondered for years "who was ours?" Then I realized it was me.

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#7 posted 03-28-2010 03:16 AM

Hey, Hey, Hey….A good deal sure is exciting.

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#8 posted 03-28-2010 10:18 AM

It feels good to get a deal at Lowes, once in a while it actually happens. lol

-- Aaron - central California "If you haven't got the time to do it right, when will you find the time to do it over?"

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#9 posted 03-28-2010 11:36 AM

Shame on you !!! Give it to me and I will try it out for a couple of years for you to make sure it works.. LOL

-- Tim, Missouri ....Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the heck happened

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#10 posted 03-28-2010 04:50 PM

Good show David, with bargains like that woodworking becomes an almost affordable hobby!

Did you ever get your sled up and running? Mine is working, minus the stop blocks and miter arms. If the honey-do’s don’t get me today I may get to them…...........

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#11 posted 03-28-2010 05:30 PM

Jim B. I’m glad you ask! See my PM.

-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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#12 posted 03-28-2010 10:34 PM

You should feel dirty…and you took advantage of an innocent kid too…but 25 bucks…man I would have paid $50 for that all day…some people just aren’t happy unless they haggle a little…


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#13 posted 03-29-2010 04:01 AM

Brad – here’s the point. The jig was missing enough parts that it would have cost about as much to buy replacement parts as a new one in the box cost. Not including my time trying to find and order the parts, order screwups, time waiting for the parts, obscene shipping charges, etc. Also, I initially said I think this is the template and put my finger on it. I even showed them a picture of it. The Lowes expert said no I was wrong. It never hurts to ask, Lowes could have said no.

By the way, I really don’t know what has gotten into me these last couple of years. I use to pay mostly full price no questions ask. When I needed something, I just went out and bought it. I think buying off of craig’s list gave me the haggle bug. I shop the sales much more frequently. I’m a regular on Amazon due to no tax and no shipping charge (usually). Also, for me woodworking is a hobby, a very expensive hobby, so I feel it’s my duty to get the best buy possible. The fact that I’m cheap ol fart doesn’t hurt either.

-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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#14 posted 03-29-2010 04:12 AM

Good deal

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#15 posted 03-30-2010 02:09 AM

Nice Grab!

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