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Tool Overview #4: You can tune a plane but you can't tuna fish

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Blog entry by David Craig posted 1378 days ago 2004 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Ok, last new/used toy was dropped off to my porch today until after the holidays. This one has already become my favorite of the lot, this is the Stanley Bailey No. 5 Type 11 -

I bought this one for 10 bucks from ebay. The patina was heavy but the rust was fairly minimal on the body. The sole was smooth and without any pitting.

I disassembled the plane and gave the parts an evapo-rust bath. While disassembled, I took photos of the distinguishing marks that ID it as a true Type 11.

From what I read, Type 11 is the only Stanley Bailey that has 3 patent dates -

The iron’s trademark stamp was in production between 1912-1918. I have no doubt that this was the original iron. This makes the plane at least 92 years old.

When disassembled, the tote was in two pieces. Cracks in old totes are not uncommon. There was a piece of and old Stanley Tools emblem on the tote. I didn’t want to replace it, so I wood glued the pieces together. There were bits missing which left gaps around the crack. I squirted some epoxy on the handle and used a plastic glue spreader to fill the gaps. This gave it a stronger bond and allowed me to keep the original tote.

After soaking everything, I reassembled the plane and flattened and cleaned the sole with sandpaper adhered to glass and used the work sharp to hone the blade. Many people replace the existing blade with a Hock, but I am going to keep this one for awhile. I like having all the original hardware and I was able to get a really nice edge on the original.

I didn’t do a full restore to like new condition. I wanted it workable and so it was restored to that level. It retained some of its age but the rust and most of the patina is gone.

It really is a beautiful tool. Maybe not much to look at, but it amazed me how different the feel and quality of the plane in comparison to my earlier restores. It gave me more of an understanding of what people talk about when they compare the quality of the old planes with the new. I don’t regret my other purchases, I think they will all work rather well, but it is nice to have a point of comparison and have a little history with me in the shop.

So now I have the basic collection, Block, Smoother, Jack, and Jointer. I am done for now but I know many of you galoots out there are thinking “Oh no buddy, you are just getting started” ;)

Happy woodworking all,

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.



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swirt

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#1 posted 1378 days ago

Nice score and a good clean-up. These old planes have a great feel to them.

I have uttered the words “I don’t need any more _” (saws, planes, chisels) on several occasions only later to realize I needed more. So good luck with that feeling like your collection is filled ;)

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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canadianchips

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#2 posted 1378 days ago

“Oh no buddy you are not finished, you might need one like these”

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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canadianchips

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#3 posted 1378 days ago

Its when you start to do this “TIME TO GO FOR THERAPY”
These are the leather handled ESTWINGS, the other 75 ball pein hammers are in a box !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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David Craig

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#4 posted 1378 days ago

Thanks for the comments gents :) They are greatly appreciated. Fortunately (or unfortunately) my shop space is limited so I can’t go too crazy with the planes or ball peins. I do see me eventually replacing the Records with Baileys and buying a LN shoulder plane after Christmas. I do understand that saying I am done would be quite foolish. A few years ago, my wood working tool collection consisted of a miter saw and a drill. Now I seem to feel like I have less tools today than I did then and my shop is hardly ill equipped. To paraphrase Sigmund, the shrink on the old sitcom Mash..”Sometimes you just have to drop your pants and slide on the ice…”

Thanks for the banter,

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Eric_S

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#5 posted 1377 days ago

Looks like it cleaned up well. I’ve grown to love hand planes. I only have three but my next ones will be a shoulder plane and maybe a better block plane. CanandianChips, wow you have a lot. Any chance you want to get rid of some of those lol?

-- - Eric Indianapolis, IN

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rivergirl

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#6 posted 1377 days ago

Canadian- every time I see that planer collection of yours it cracks me up. I can’t imagine what a person would do with all of those planers- but collections are like that aren’t they. I have stuff I collect to- or used to collect- now I need to unload some of that stuff so I can buy some TOOLS. LOL Have fun you guys! Love those pics!

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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David Craig

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#7 posted 1377 days ago

Yes, collections are funny things and I would not be one to judge anyone’s hobby. I just find it hard to understand “value” or the concept of it today. I spent 20 bucks for the plane and shipping and while I was on ebay, a small box of unopened toy plastic food appeared on my list and was selling for about 150. Cracked me up trying to picture people haggling over the thing, but everyone has their interests.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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racerglen

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#8 posted 1377 days ago

I still quiver when I recall backing off at 50 dollars in a live auction and letting slip away a
beautiful 605 Bedrock plane.
Glen

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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jockmike2

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#9 posted 1377 days ago

Wow I do see a classic case of OCD up there, but hey, it’s better than collecting women or something more evil, like little kids. David, you know I don’t share your passion for planes. That is what I term “work” using those things, I do appreciate you fixing up my planes, don’t get me wrong, and I have used them, on “occasion.”I have one of these new fangled things called a hand planer that I use and it works remarkably well. LOL. With a minimum of effort. You just have to bend over and (ugh!) plug it in. But I do appreciate the value of the ascetics of plane worshiping.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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David Craig

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#10 posted 1377 days ago

Yes, I probably have been getting a little emotional over the new tools :) They are only as good as the project in which they are intended for. I did buy them with that in mind. And, yes, the kids are safe trick or treating this year because I have planes…

Kind of a shame, I had a cupboard all ready for the little monsters…:)

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Dennisgrosen

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#11 posted 1377 days ago

great looking plane you have now David :-)
and as Canadienchips say you hardly have stepped into the slippery slope of this road
there is still more than 300 you need…...LOL

good luck with it
Dennis

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