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The Coolidge Chronicles #11: Part 3 - Grizzly G0696X 5HP 12" Table Saw

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Blog entry by darthford posted 12-04-2013 03:33 AM 1091 reads 1 time favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 10: Part 2 - Grizzly G0696X 5HP 12" Table Saw Assembly Part 11 of The Coolidge Chronicles series Part 12: Part 4 - Grizzly G0696X 5HP 12" Table Saw »

I wrap up assembly and setup of the saw in part 3 (well almost)...

Curve ahead…(face palm) the good news is that’s pretty much the only thing I found wrong with the saw!

Here’s some eye candy to look at while I give you a summary.

Fence Rail Tube - Oddly the manual skips right over installing the fence rail tube lol. Not that it was any great loss, looking over the instructions for other Grizzly saws it pretty much just said, “install the fence rail tube with the bolts” and that was it. Now Grizzly states the fence was aligned at the factory but there is a fair amount of forward/backward slop with all the fence tube bolts in…if the tube is bolted down crooked no way the fence will be aligned. I elected to simply pull the fence rail tube back towards me away from the saw, then tightened the bolts starting in the center and alternating out towards the ends, first just good and snug, then repeated the pattern tightening the rest of the way. The fence measured parallel to the miter slot within .001 front to rear, measured with a dial indicator/miter slot jig. No adjustment required.

Blade to Miter Slot – Again Grizzly says they aligned this at the factory, just check it in case it got knocked out during shipping. I did and it was right on within .001. I have owned a few table saws over the years, this is the first I have not had to adjust this, good job Grizzly!

Forrest WWII Blade - So I got a bad Forrest blade…I got over it quickly Grizzly is taking it back and issuing me a refund. The blade run out was .008 which made checking the blade to miter slot pretty much not possible. I ordered a Ridge Carbide blade this morning then because I wanted to get going on some projects I found a 12” Freud Fusion blade at my local Woodcrafters (not Woodcraft). The measured run out…drum roll… .001 a tad less really whoohoo! I then checked the blade to miter slot which was .001 as I noted above. Same tooth, opposite tooth, random tooth, blade plate vs the tooth, all measured .001 I like it.

Blade dish/crown – So I have noticed this with both the Forrest and the Freud blade. The Freud blade is flat, but with just some moderate tightening of the arbor nut a dish forms on the nut side and a crown forms on the arbor side. This is very slight, maybe .004 and inside the kerf boundary. The Freud still measures with .001 true at the teeth and outer rim, the dish is about in the center 7 inches of the blade. So its not going to effect anything but it does bug me a bit. Never had a 10” blade do that. The arbor plate and washer both seem perfectly flat. Remember in the last blog I measured the arbor run out to be about .0002. While the arbor plate and outer arbor washer are large, the center of both are recessed, they only contact the blade on the outside, a strip maybe .300 wide. Best I can figure simply clamping a 12” blade in that spot tweaks them a bit. Note the Forrest arrived with a dish/crown already in the blade, tightening the arbor nut just increased it a bit. The test will be cutting 3-4” thick stock, I believe there is plenty of side clearance within the boundaries of the kerf but we’ll see. Its a non-issue completely up to about 2” stock. It might be interesting to install the blade backwards and see of the dish/crown flip with the blade or stay the same, if they stayed the same then I would say it must be the arbor plate and washer.

Here’s some more shots

A close up

Some 5/4 red oak for a quilt ladder for my sister, that oak looks quite tasty

I purchased some new leather gloves, buy American!

Oh wait. what the hell?

This table saw was assembled to the tune of…

One final step to complete, Grizzly didn’t give me any electrical cord, I have the 30 amp plug end but I’ll have to go get some 10 gauge cord tomorrow then this assembly will be a wrap and I’ll power this beast up and cut something. Other than my finger, yeah it already drew blood!



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clafollett

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#1 posted 12-04-2013 03:47 AM

Must be nice to have most all setup complete huh? That is one dead sexy machine! You’ve now got me looking at new saws which is making my wife a bit nervous! :)

I call BS on those gloves. Talk about some misleading marketing. Purely intentional for sure. They wouldn’t sell many if the slogan said “We glove the Peoples Republic of China”

BTW, great tune to build to. I personally love Stevie’s version of Little Wing. Probably my favorite non vocal tune ever. I had many beers playing pool in shady bars while listening to that tune on the jukebox back in my younger years. Ah the memories. RIP Stevie!

-- Don't mind me, I'm just soaking up knowledge

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woodcox

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#2 posted 12-04-2013 06:43 AM

Great blog you have shared. Amazing to see a shop of this caliber come together. Check out Starrett’s adhesive tapes. AskWoodMan has some good info on proper installation of them. I believe he still sells them too.
....and the planer table/third hand pic was epic. Stay safe out there.

-- "My god has more wood than your god" ... G. Carlin.

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darthford

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#3 posted 12-04-2013 07:17 AM

clafollett ahaha I’m just getting started on you Mr. the videos are next, 5HP of chomp unleashed. Little Wing is another favorite I have a few versions of Little Wing by various artists. Great now I have a sudden urge to go grab my Strat.

The big rig

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#4 posted 12-04-2013 07:36 AM

Woodcox thanks, my goal was to assemble a quality shop of machine tools without getting stupid about it right. I think I’m on track there.

Starrett makes adhesive tapes I did not know that. I’m tempted to look into a fence DRO. I never use the fence rail tapes, I use my Starrett steel rules but a DRO if accurate and reliable I would jump on that. Already plan to put one on my planer.

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#5 posted 12-04-2013 07:56 AM

Some additional observations about the table saw, except for the stick on measuring tape fit and finish everywhere else was excellent. Holes cleanly tapped and accurately located, good quality fasteners, paint job is excellent, the epoxy coating on the fence rails is very nice. Look at the grind on the fence rail tube, it feels about 220 grit to me, the grind on the Powermatic PM2000 tube is more like 80 grit and shreds the nylon adjusters.

Motor cover, steel and heavy not plastic like saws costing $1,000 more. Beefy hinge pins yet the cover lifts off easily and reinstalls just as easy. 6 bolts to attach the front rail, 6 more on the rear rail. You know how many bolts they give you for the longer rear rail on the Powermatic PM2000? 2 then the instructions say well if you want to drill your own hole and buy your own bolt you can add a 3rd. Do these rails really need 6 bolts? Probably not but I like that the saw is over engineered in a good way.

Did they have to polish the main table to that degree of shine, nope the competition isn’t doing that anymore but I appreciated the effort. Hangers for the fence, arbor wrenches, and miter gauge trimmed with protective vinyl, vinyl cushions on the arbor wrenches so they are easy on your hands. The wrenches are mega over sized and angled out well clear of the blade. Blade to miter slot adjusted spot on at the factory. Fence ditto at the factory.

Everywhere you look on this saw you see pride in a well designed well manufactured tool. Now its not been under power yet but so far I’m pretty impressed with this saw at this price compared to 10” saws out there costing substantially more. The PM2000 that’s sitting a few feet away, its not a contest. The cabinet, yeah pre-drilled with threaded nuts for the roller outfeed table Grizzly offers. I remember when you were expected to drill the cabinet yourself for that stuff. Both an integrated riving knife as part of the blade guard and a 2nd stand alone riving knife to use when the blade guard cannot be used. Well you get the picture. I think Grizzly has thrown down the gauntlet in the table saw category.

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#6 posted 12-05-2013 01:01 AM

Nice axe! Stevie would approve. :)

I think your last post sums it up well. After seeing your blog entries on this saw, I’m think I’m sold. I’m not sure when but I’m pretty certain this model will be the one I purchase.

I probably don’t need a 5hp saw but just like with motorcycles, there is no replacement for displacement. I want something I can grow into, not out of. My future retirement will hopefully involve quite a bit of wood working and this saw looks like it would last a life time.

Thanks for all your hard work in putting this stuff together. I know its time consuming and with your profession, new toys, and musical hobbies, time is probably limited.

I can’t wait to see what goodies you put together and I’m assuming a fair number of amps will be coming out of that shop.

-- Don't mind me, I'm just soaking up knowledge

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