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Designs

So next project in the pipe is a sideboard California/Maloof rounds for the divider bits, maple drawers, cherry for everything else, and kane-tsugi doors. These are the designs I've come up with so far. Which do you guys like best so far (and any ideas, cool sideboards you've seen much appreciated)

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#4 ·
I like the top one as well! I think it has to do with the contrasting wood for the leg and stretcher cradle part. I also like the pigeon hole area in the center as well. This one just has more interest for me! Any chance of incorporating a small aquarium behind one of the doors, for the Whale/Goose to reside? Take care!

Sincerely,
Ken McGinnis
 
#6 ·
Top one definitely. And I'm a tee-totaler, so the wine cubbies hold no special interest. It's the leg detail and the frame and panel treatment (not familiar with that kane-tsugi style) that get my vote.

Another design thought…what about extending the legs to support a floating top that is above the cabinet's top panel? Just a thought.
 
#9 ·
My 2 cent worth on scheme 1
At the risk of being to detailed I offer the following design comments/questions for your consideration:
What is the design relationship between the dark wood elements and the cabinet box? It appears that, the dark wood is meant to visually frame/support the light wood. If this is true how does the top fit into this concept? The top's material says it belongs to the box but the projecting edge allows it to also be read as sort of a top to the 'frame'. I believe clarifying the detail of how the vertical legs are terminated or integrated with the top along with the material selection for the top could make what is already a good design even better.
 
#10 ·
That's an interesting observation regards tying the legs back into the design. I'd taken the element from this piece. But upon closer inspection this design works because of the way he's tied the frame back into the casework. Definitely something to ponder…

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#12 ·
a couple of quick comments regarding the inspiration piece

-where the legs stop allows one to read the dark wood detail at the drawer faces to (conceptually) be the tops of the legs relocated, its a subtle but important design move
-also the tapering leg form is restated as a door detail

both design moves work to integrate the two major themes of the piece, if you wanted to you could use these design moves (without mimicking the exact forms) to further develop/refine your design

good luck with the pondering
 
#13 ·
Hi Damian,

Definitely the first option. I really like the way the leg stops short of the top and how the top floats over the case. I don't think that edging the top in a darker wood works in this design. I find the visual weight of the dark wood edge weighs the foating top down. Go with your gut! I would keep it how you originally showed the top and bevel or round the bottom edge to help reinforce the floating effect. It is one of the details that makes the inspiration piece so successful. I also agree that the handles shape and species type should mimic the leg detail. What if you made them rectangular in shape and they have a subtle concave shape to them like your legs have. Drawers I would orient the pull horizontally and doors verticallly. The round knobs to me just seem out of place. I absolutely love the door detail you are showing. This will be another beautiful design of yours that I look forward to seeing. BTW - You should come to Sacramento Wood Show tomorrow. A bunch of us are meeting there at 10AM.
 
#14 ·
Hey Brian, yeah I didn't like how the edging looked either - too heavy - another option I toyed with was just having the bottom 1/8" of the top in a darker wood. There is a bevel on the underside of the top that you can't really see in those pics, very similar to my Whisky table, but in this case the top is directly attached to the case like in the inspiration piece, I could play around with floating it but I'm a little leery of a) making it too busy, and b) reducing the case size to fit it in (I have a height limitation due to where it's going to live) I do love floating tops though…

With regards handles, hadn't really gotten that far, the round pulls were just super easy to do in sketchup :) but I like the idea of echoing the legs.

Unfortunately I'm all booked this weekend, would have liked to meet you guys, have fun :)

Thanks for all the input guys, really appreciate it.
 
#15 ·
the top one has a nicer arrangement of elements but the legs are a bit too bulky, and seem a bit out of place (to me) - in that regard the 3rd one looks mire tight and together in terms of harmony of the entire piece.
 
#16 ·
I really like the top design. One thing that you might try is exaggerating the size of the legs just a little.

My personal preference would be to do the front in all cherry (without the maple) but that's just me. There is enough going on in the design to keep it to just cherry and maybe dark legs.

Very cool design by the way. This will be beautiful.
 
#17 ·
Hey Damian,

Too bad you can't make it tomorrow one of these days we will meet up. The way you have the top attached to the case it appears to float without having to actually float it so I think the way you have it in option onereally works which was what I was trying to say before. Cannot wait to follow the process.
 
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Damian, By not including it in your original post I assume you already realize the dark trim around the top doesn't really do the trick. Have you considered working some aspect of the leg design into the top? For example, the leg's profile could be turned horizontally and make the shape of the top. Also as it is currently designed the overhang seems to be in 'no man's land'. Perhaps it could either grow (provided there is room) much like the inspiration piece or shrink down to fit tighter, as a 'lid', to the box.
 
#20 ·
FW issue 200 is where I saw this joint 1st and there is a picture of a Bookcase with this joint used in the doors.The sides are very nice, a gentle taper top to bottom, and would look better than your designs so far, IMHO. Your Drawers need something too, they look too plain with all that other detail. Round knobs are not in keeping, better angular. Over hang the top at the sides a little more like the picture you posted and the design will be so much better. No offence meant, just opinion. Posted the pics you asked for of the Joint being made, just ask if you want further info?
 
#21 ·
Thanks for your input Bloonose, I'll check out the FWW issue in question (pretty sure that's where I saw the join too). I'm not convinced that the drawers need anything, the eucalyptus I'll be using should stand on it's own, I'll just see how things play out. Regards the top I'll eyeball the width come build time and the round knobs were really just a place holder and were never intended to part of the final piece, they were just real easy to draw in sketchup :)
 
#23 ·
Perhaps I'm a real simpleton…but, I really like the third case. The post and panel construction works (always has). I could even do without the maple and see it all in cherry. The door design, for my eye provides the flair and additional design element which sets it apart from a more standard concept of the same sideboard. Also, with well selected and placed wood, a lot can be communicated.
 
#24 ·
I also don't drink never been interested doesn't mean I don't have drink for when guests come, so I like the top one best too. I particularly like the leg design of the top one and also the cabinet door designs of all of them I have never come across that design before could you elaborate on the corners of the doors I love this design so much thanks Alistair
 
#25 ·
I sketched out the designs full scale on cardboard just to get a better understanding of how they'd look, and the drinks compartment ended up looking too low (it's 30" high to fit under a window) so I had to nix that element, and my wife preferred the legs on #3 so #3 is essentially what is being built.

Alistair, the corner joint is called a kane-tsugi and was illustrated in a recent copy of FWW (one before last I think) - Chris used it on this frame http://lumberjocks.com/projects/17031
 
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