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Cutlist4.1 #1: The first pre-release of cutlist 4.1 sketchup plugin

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Blog entry by daltxguy posted 06-06-2010 10:29 AM 3721 reads 5 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’ve started work on the next version of the cutlist plugin for Sketchup. This blog is intended to give anyone interested advance information on what’s coming up, pre-release copies, discussion of any issues which come up, questions and so on.

This will lead to a new ‘stable’ version 4.1 which will be the next current version.

The first pre-release is now available from here cutlist4.1pre

Please not that this link will not be permanent and may be removed without notice. If that’s the case, be looking for a new link with a newer version.

Here’s what’s in this first cut of v4.1:

1. 5’x5’ sheets for layout
2. New interface to select kerf size and support for kerfs in the layout
3. Project titles on both cutlist and layout
4. Printable layout from layout window ( SVG still a better option, but print from window is easier). This was a huge pain to get working, so I hope this is really useful!
5. Layout generation is heaps faster
6. Layout bug limiting window display to small projects has been fixed!
7. Printable cutlist from window – new easier interface
8. Sheets sizes are now in true metric measurements ( not imperial converted to metric)
9. Compact list is now in alphabetical order ( special request to restore this functionality from previous versions ago)
10. Bug fix in display when using ‘&’ in part names.

I welcome anyone who is daring to try this new version (actually it’s really quite stable!).
Quite a bit of the infrastructure has changed so if you do want to install it and have a previous version, make sure to delete the following before installing:

1.In Plugins folder:
CutListAndMaterials.rb

2. In plugins folder:
The enture ‘cutlistui’ folder

Then, as before, unzip the contents of the download into the plugins folder.

Note that any previous settings you had should be retained but some new options will be set to default settings.

Any issues, questions or suggestions, please feel free to comment here.

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!



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punking

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#1 posted 06-10-2010 09:00 AM

I just installed 4.1pre and it seems to work real good. I will work with it more.

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#2 posted 06-10-2010 10:28 AM

one of my projects for my wife is a cabinet for the kitchen. It is rather large, regarding the # of parts. I get an error as seen in the photo. the problem occurred only with this project so far…. other projects are fine.

Thank You for the work you do!

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#3 posted 06-10-2010 11:14 AM

whoa! – that’s not good! I’ll contact you offlist to see if I can get a copy of your model. Obviously I didn’t come across that one in my testing.

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#4 posted 06-10-2010 01:48 PM

Chris et al.

The issue is with the project name. If you have a single quote in the project name, then it all goes pear shaped. ( ie: you get the error shown above) It has to do with this version displaying the model name in the output now. It’s not liking something about the way that I convert the name to be displayed in html.

Until I get a proper fix out there, for now, just make sure your project names don’t have the single quote (‘) in the project name and all should be well. There might be other characters as well, like #, & etc. Just avoid punctuation and symbols for now. Underscores are ok

Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#5 posted 06-11-2010 03:08 AM

thank you! it works like a charm!

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#6 posted 06-13-2010 09:23 AM

I’ve uploaded the fix for the issue with the punctuated projected name.
The link hasn’t changed but anyone who downloads it now will get the fixed version. Nothing else has changed for now…

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#7 posted 07-26-2010 06:14 PM

Just tried it out. I produces a good CSV and SVG file, the latter of which I can open using Safari. Sadly the two are not actually displayed when I run the plugin. The two windows it opens are basically blank so printing directly from the plugin doesn’t work so great, kind of a shame. For reference I run the nightly Webkit builds. I’m using OSX 10.6. Do you think this plugin will ever work nicely on Mac’s?

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#8 posted 07-28-2010 12:32 PM

Hi Will,

Cutlist has always worked with the Mac – we sorted out some issues a long time ago and I haven’t heard of any issues since then. The cutlist display has always been ok but the layout display has NEVER been ok – this is why the svg output was introduced.

Any issues are mainly to do with the forced used of Safari by SU on a MAC ( my age old complaint that SU does not respect your default browser) and some differences in the way that Safari is paranoid about security ( which prevents the layout from working since it creates and runs a script in order to effect the display).

If the cutlist display is not working with the mac, then the recent changes have likely impacted it.

I’ll have to reinstall Safari and try the html display on there (new computer since I first made the last Safari changes) and see if I can work out why it is no longer working (I’ve shifted recently to using style sheets so display and printing can share the same html)

I also have a very old mac powerbook running 10.4 I think which I might be able to coax into running sketchup, if it stays running for long enough.

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#9 posted 07-28-2010 03:29 PM

Interesting. I’ve actually switched from using Firefox to using Webkit nightlies as my default browser (Webkit launches and runs much faster and is just quite a bit ahead of Firefox with regard to HTML5 and CSS3 support), so even if SU used my default browser it sounds like I would be in a pinch. From what you are saying it sounds like Safari/Webkit is opening the pages in a sandboxed environment. I still don’t see why that should be an issue if you have links to image files etc. properly. Perhaps if you used absolute rather than relative paths that would fix the problem?

Btw, I was incorrect, the cutlist IS working, just the layout which is blank. I wonder if you could modify the way the layout is generated so that it’s all in the HTML and thus would work on Safari.

Also, have you noticed that when you first launch the plugin on Mac the intial window is really tiny and needs to be resized? See attached photo.

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#10 posted 10-26-2010 10:42 PM

I’ve spent hours reading posts and trying everything I can think of to get cutlist 4.1.1 to work on my machine and no luck so far. I’m on a mac (powerbook G4) running sketchup 7. I’ve extracted the zip file into the following location: HD/library/application support/google sketchup 7/sketchup/plugins. Launch sketchup and I cannot get it to show up under the plugins menu. Oh, also tried on a newer mac mini with the same result. Any suggestions on where I’m going wrong would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Josh

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#11 posted 10-26-2010 11:00 PM

Hi Josh,
I’m sure we can work through it. It’s been done successfully on macs before.

First thing is to verify that you did indeed extract the contents of the zip file correctly.
Quit out of sketchup, then make sure that the plugin folder contains the file ‘cutlist.rb’ and a folder called ‘cutlist’.
If this is ok, then start sketchup again and the menu item should show up. If not, we will investigate further.

Steve

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#12 posted 10-26-2010 11:15 PM

Thanks Dave – that’s even better – nicely done.

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#13 posted 10-27-2010 12:40 AM

Thanks for the replies. I’ve done what you’ve described but still no go. The only item listed in the plugins menus is called “cost.” I inserted a screen shot of where I have things located, maybe that will help.

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#14 posted 10-27-2010 01:15 AM

Nice! That did the trick. Thanks for helping out, can’t wait to play with this.

Josh

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#15 posted 10-27-2010 02:18 AM

I’m exploring the use of an installer – though I haven’t found one yet which also handles mac.
In general the method for installing this plug-in is the same for all sketchup plugins but I do want this to be as easy to use as possible.

I’ll also double check that I haven’t inadvertently zipped a top level cutlist4.1.1 folder. If I did, I didn’t mean to.

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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