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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

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#2 ·
If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Tim, that looks really good. If you are wanting to draw a clear plastic bag in SU these steps may help:

1. Use the circle tool to create a circle to your desired diameter.
2. Use the Push/Pull tool to create a cylinder to your desired height.
3. Use the Select tool to select the created cylinder.
4. Right click one time and turn the cylinder into a group or component.
5. Use the Bucket tool and choose the Translucent option from the list of choices.
6. Choose the TranslucentGlassTinted and apply this to your cylinder.
7. Select the Edit tab of the Materials options. Here you should see a color wheel that has a little box in it. Use your mouse to drag that box into an area of the color wheel that is more white in color. You should see the imediate effect in your model.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll help as much as I can.
 

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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Did you already build it? If not you should really consider making your own Thien Cyclone top for the barrell instead of the woodcraft lid. While the lid does well, it really lets a lot of dust through, It is a poor design. the intake and outlet openings are too close to each other.

Another thing to consider is a better filter for the collector. The one on it is not big enough and it restricts aurflow, therefore decreasing suction in the system. You could either buy a canister filter, or for a cheaper option you could order a second HF filter bag and use it in place of the plastic bag, especially if your cyclone is catching almost all the dust.

Plus, don't forget to use as little flex hose as possible in the system! Run PVC dusct throughout the shop to each machine with blast gates, and then just a foot or two of hose to make the connections! All that hose in your photo is KILLING your airflow!

Just a couple of modifications to your design that would REALLY make it more efficient…
 

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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Two great responses. Thanks.

Nobuckle… I had forgotten to use the translucent material in Sketchup. I'm also going to try to extrude the cylindar so it has a wedge-shaped bottom. We'll see.

Stumpt… re the canister… the good folks at Wynn Environmental won't be too happy to hear that their filter is undersized. (Picture Below) Re the flex hose. You are correct and your comments are appreciated. The second picture doesn't show the half of it. I have a long run of flex hose running up the wall and across the ceiling and back down to a central stack. This was intended to test the run. And with all that length of flex hose and all the hoses connected to the trashcan, the system worked great. Imagine what it will do when I use short lengths of hose and long lengths of 5" duct. Re the Wood craft lid and the Thein… you are correct. The Woodcraft lid is cheap, but it is also quick. The Thein looks interesting and I plan to add one down the road. Re whether I already built it? Yes I did. However, like many things I do, I don't really understand all the issues until I try out a physical model. My process was bass-akwards in that I designed the concept on paper and tried to think of all the things it needed. I then proceeded to build a cabinet that was too small in every dimension. I then took a lot of notes and measurements and such and sat down with Sketchup. I will build the new one this weekend.

Not an ideal process, then again, I'm not always good with process.

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#5 ·
If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
I just got the 2HP HF DC, and plan to do a similar modification. Posts and pictures of your progress (and finished product) would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to fiqure out the quickest, easiest (and did I say cheapest) way to accomplish the "upgrade". I'll be watching this thread intently!!!

Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this.
 

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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
DIYaholic… I'll be adding more chapters shortly. Nobuckle… here's a shot at adding the clear bag.

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#7 ·
If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Great post Tim, thanks. I really appreciate all the SketchUp effort. Any reason the the blower/impeller couldn't be mounted vertically/plumb so the 90 at the inlet can be eliminated? -Jack
 

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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Jack… there are a number of posts in the Review section on the HF DC. I don't have the link to insert here, but I'm sure you can find them. In any event, in a couple of them people have mounted the motor horizontally and this spurred some comment on vertical v. horizontal motors. One poster said he knew of many people who are using the motor horizontally and have had no problem. Others, some identifying themselves as experts, note that vertical motors should not be run horizontally. Many people asked how they can tell if a motor can be run in either position. The experts seem to say to check the motor. Really? To which the responders ask how can they check the motor. The experts seem to be stumped. Nor do they offer any information about the consequences, like is it a fire or shock hazard, or if they just seize up or quit running, or if it significantly shortens uselife life, etc.

Bottom line is I'm still trying to research the issue. Placing the motor horizontally is the way to go because you can get a direct line from the trash can to the fan housing. And if you build your own Thein you can center a 5" duct in the top of the trashcan, therefore also centering the motor. At this point I'm leaning toward that opotion. Since I already built a cabinet (I had planned to build another) I'm thinking about trying it in the horizontal position. I'm going to start by flipping the motor component in my Skethup model. One small problem is the lid I'm using doesn't have a middle hole so the duct from the motor/fan to the trashcan lid will have to be slightly askew. At least if and until I build a Thein.

Please let me know if you run across any information on this.
 

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#9 ·
If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
Regarding vertical vs. horizontal motors: They all show which orientation they are meant to be run. It's coded with a letter after the rated voltage. All of mine are vertical motors as indicated by the plates that show 110V or 220V.

Trust me, I'm an expert!

James
 

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If you build it, dust will come.

Here's my big idea for converting a HF to a 2-stage DC. I sold my Jet and bought the HF for $139. I got the vortex (?) lid from Woodcraft and am using a regular plastic trash can. I didn't take the time, yet, to draw in the intake/outtake hoses, and I don't know how to draw the plastic bag, but you can get an idea of the concept. I must confess, however, I already built one of these, but it turned out to be too small. It was too short, too narrow, and not deep enough, other than that it was pretty good. I will add pictures in the next entries.

Plant Cylinder Gas Rectangle Parallel


Light Automotive tire Flooring Gas Wood


Liquid Plant Cylinder Fluid Parallel


Rectangle Illustration Puzzle Tree Art


Rectangle Triangle Facade House Plan


Art House Wood Grass Facade
In regards to horizontal vs vertical, I believe its not the motor but how the impeller is connected to the shaft. If the impeller arbor is designed as a compression fitting rather than using the pressure of the set screw to dig into the shaft, then it can be mounted vertically. This type of fitting is called a tapered bushing. You can find more info about it here.
Have people run non-compression arbored impellers their entire lives vertically w/o incident? Certainly. Should you? I guess it depends on how well the impeller housing can withstand and contain an impeller strike and whether the impeller will self destruct into shrapnel or just get dented/banged up.
 

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Verticality Controversy Rages On

The question before us is whether it is 1) safe, 2) feasible, 3) advisable, 4) possible to align a HF Dust Collector motor horizontally. There have been many examples in the review section of doing this and there have been a lot of comments both pro and con. A couple of folks (CovenantCreation and MichaelJ) have done so and reported success, while others have added that vertical motors should not be run horizontally. The basic reason seems to have to do with the bearings. However, beyond the general and equally useless suggestion to "check the motor", I have not seen any details regarding the risks or how to identify whether a motor can in fact be rotated.

So I've pretty much decided to go for it and set up my 2-stage in the horizontal position. This alignment has some clear advantages the most obvious being the ability to line up the center of the cyclone with the blower intake without any angles or extensive runs of hose. However, since my Woodcraft cyclone lid does not have a center hole it looks like I'll go ahead and build a Thien Separator Lid. Following are some pictures from these links and my Sketchup with the horizontal motor. In the meantime, I'd be real interested in hearing from some experts on on this subject.

CovenantCreations


MichaelJ


Phil Thien


Updated Sketchup
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Verticality Controversy Rages On

The question before us is whether it is 1) safe, 2) feasible, 3) advisable, 4) possible to align a HF Dust Collector motor horizontally. There have been many examples in the review section of doing this and there have been a lot of comments both pro and con. A couple of folks (CovenantCreation and MichaelJ) have done so and reported success, while others have added that vertical motors should not be run horizontally. The basic reason seems to have to do with the bearings. However, beyond the general and equally useless suggestion to "check the motor", I have not seen any details regarding the risks or how to identify whether a motor can in fact be rotated.

So I've pretty much decided to go for it and set up my 2-stage in the horizontal position. This alignment has some clear advantages the most obvious being the ability to line up the center of the cyclone with the blower intake without any angles or extensive runs of hose. However, since my Woodcraft cyclone lid does not have a center hole it looks like I'll go ahead and build a Thien Separator Lid. Following are some pictures from these links and my Sketchup with the horizontal motor. In the meantime, I'd be real interested in hearing from some experts on on this subject.

CovenantCreations


MichaelJ


Phil Thien


Updated Sketchup
Liquid Cylinder Gas Parallel Fluid


Rectangle Parallel Plant Cylinder House


Liquid Fluid Rectangle Cylinder Gas
IMHO, the in and out ports should be on the same plane on the lid, at 3 o'clock and at 9 o'clock, so to speak and both must be pointed in the same direction (clockwise); not one in center pointed downward in the drum while the other is at radius in direction of flow.

A shop vac does a minimal or poor job on such a lid presumably because of relatively low CFM in a 2" hose. Just use it directly connected to a low volume producer machine.
 

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Verticality Controversy Rages On

The question before us is whether it is 1) safe, 2) feasible, 3) advisable, 4) possible to align a HF Dust Collector motor horizontally. There have been many examples in the review section of doing this and there have been a lot of comments both pro and con. A couple of folks (CovenantCreation and MichaelJ) have done so and reported success, while others have added that vertical motors should not be run horizontally. The basic reason seems to have to do with the bearings. However, beyond the general and equally useless suggestion to "check the motor", I have not seen any details regarding the risks or how to identify whether a motor can in fact be rotated.

So I've pretty much decided to go for it and set up my 2-stage in the horizontal position. This alignment has some clear advantages the most obvious being the ability to line up the center of the cyclone with the blower intake without any angles or extensive runs of hose. However, since my Woodcraft cyclone lid does not have a center hole it looks like I'll go ahead and build a Thien Separator Lid. Following are some pictures from these links and my Sketchup with the horizontal motor. In the meantime, I'd be real interested in hearing from some experts on on this subject.

CovenantCreations


MichaelJ


Phil Thien


Updated Sketchup
Liquid Cylinder Gas Parallel Fluid


Rectangle Parallel Plant Cylinder House


Liquid Fluid Rectangle Cylinder Gas
I have a Thein separator that is very similar to what you're showing up here - the intake is in the side of the barrel. It is a bit of a PITA to dump the container because of this - I have to disconnect the input hose each time and some dust will always spill out through the input hole while I'm dumping it.

When I get a new barrel, I plan to do something like what Cory is showing - with a short length of flex between the output of the barrel and the input of the blower - so that the lid easily lifts up and the barrel can be slid out.

The way you're mounting your blower to the top could make it difficult to pull the lid off when it's time to empty it.

James

**Edit: @DIYaholic: http://www.wynnenv.com/35A_series_cartridge_kit.htm
 

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Cory to the rescue

Thanks to Cory and input from other LJs, I was able to figure this thing out. Once you get past the idea of flipping the motor a number of possibilities become available. So I tossed the cabinet idea and went with Cory's design. I did not include a Thein separator, and as you can see , I'm still using the flex hose as a conduit. Still and all, with a commercial cyclone lid from Woodcraft and about fifteen feet of 4" flex hose with a couple of ninety-degree bends, this things works awfully darned well. You'll have to trust me, but there is very little dust collecting in the bag.

I used my assembly table to line up the motor and waist to get some measurements.
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After building the cart I used a lift to place the blower in line with the collector.
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Just like Cory, I cut down the large hose and used it for the two connections. There are no clamps. Since the hose itself is spring loaded the compression fit works just fine. In fact, the downward force probably helps seal the cyclone lid to the trash can.
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Attaching the lower bag is a real pain, but I've discovered an easy way. I just used two large spring clamps to hold the back side of the bag in place. I inserted my thumbs along the sides of the bags and pulled them together working around the rim while pulling up on the bag. This was a new bag and had not been stretched, yet it was amazingly easy.
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Note how the tip of each clamp is positioned above the level of the spring belt. I threaded the belt through the clamps then simply raised it into position to tighten and then removed the clamps.
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Here's a couple of shots of the final product.
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I plan to install a run of 5" duct to the middle of the room along the same path as the flex hose, and I have to rewire the plug for a remote controller. Eventually I will also build a Thein separator, but for now it seems to be working fine.

Thanks to all for the comments and advice.
 

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Cory to the rescue

Thanks to Cory and input from other LJs, I was able to figure this thing out. Once you get past the idea of flipping the motor a number of possibilities become available. So I tossed the cabinet idea and went with Cory's design. I did not include a Thein separator, and as you can see , I'm still using the flex hose as a conduit. Still and all, with a commercial cyclone lid from Woodcraft and about fifteen feet of 4" flex hose with a couple of ninety-degree bends, this things works awfully darned well. You'll have to trust me, but there is very little dust collecting in the bag.

I used my assembly table to line up the motor and waist to get some measurements.
Furniture Wood Table Shelving Workbench


After building the cart I used a lift to place the blower in line with the collector.
Musical keyboard Musical instrument Keyboard Electronic musical instrument Gas


Just like Cory, I cut down the large hose and used it for the two connections. There are no clamps. Since the hose itself is spring loaded the compression fit works just fine. In fact, the downward force probably helps seal the cyclone lid to the trash can.
Fluid Cylinder Gas Tree Machine


Attaching the lower bag is a real pain, but I've discovered an easy way. I just used two large spring clamps to hold the back side of the bag in place. I inserted my thumbs along the sides of the bags and pulled them together working around the rim while pulling up on the bag. This was a new bag and had not been stretched, yet it was amazingly easy.
Fluid Line Cylinder Gas Electrical wiring


Note how the tip of each clamp is positioned above the level of the spring belt. I threaded the belt through the clamps then simply raised it into position to tighten and then removed the clamps.
Gas Flooring Electrical wiring Machine Plastic


Here's a couple of shots of the final product.
Automotive tire Wheel Tire Fender Plant


Property Car Table Vehicle Motor vehicle


I plan to install a run of 5" duct to the middle of the room along the same path as the flex hose, and I have to rewire the plug for a remote controller. Eventually I will also build a Thein separator, but for now it seems to be working fine.

Thanks to all for the comments and advice.
Excellent tip regarding hanging/installing the plastic bag. Good use of the lift also, wish I had one! Aligning the blower outfeed to the seperator/donut intake is the only part of this build that appears relatively difficult. Would you be able to supply a dimensional drawing? I'm sure many LJs (especially me) would find it quite helpful.
 

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Clean Up

Some final thoughts on this blog before it gets relegated to the archives. First, many thanks to all for your advice and participation. I learned many new things, made some new friends, and ended up with a very nice little system. While I haven't yet built a Thein separator or installed the duct work, I have added some accessories like the Dust Right System from Rockler. As these pictures show, the whole unit makes for efficient storage of these items and it is working great.

Putting on my MBA hat I believe the market has an obvious hole which creates a real opportunity for a manufacturer to exploit. Clearly what is needed is a two-stage cyclone, 1,500 to 1,800 cfm, collector with a 1.5hp or perhaps a 2hp motor, preferably a 110 connection, with a relatively small footprint, a remote control, and a canister filter in the $400 - $700 price range. I saw that Jet just came out with a new 1.5hp collector that purports to have some new cyclone-type (vortex?) technology, but it is single stage with a cost around $650. If it sounds like I'm asking to much just take a look at this blog and see what people like us are doing on our own. The other thing I believe people would buy is a clear can with some type of cyclone. Not only would you be able to see if it needs to be emptied, but you'd be able to watch the cyclone in action which would be kind of fun.

In summary this trip has been a blast, yup I wrote that, and it didn't suck at all, yeah, I know. Thanks again to everyone.

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#45 ·
Clean Up

Some final thoughts on this blog before it gets relegated to the archives. First, many thanks to all for your advice and participation. I learned many new things, made some new friends, and ended up with a very nice little system. While I haven't yet built a Thein separator or installed the duct work, I have added some accessories like the Dust Right System from Rockler. As these pictures show, the whole unit makes for efficient storage of these items and it is working great.

Putting on my MBA hat I believe the market has an obvious hole which creates a real opportunity for a manufacturer to exploit. Clearly what is needed is a two-stage cyclone, 1,500 to 1,800 cfm, collector with a 1.5hp or perhaps a 2hp motor, preferably a 110 connection, with a relatively small footprint, a remote control, and a canister filter in the $400 - $700 price range. I saw that Jet just came out with a new 1.5hp collector that purports to have some new cyclone-type (vortex?) technology, but it is single stage with a cost around $650. If it sounds like I'm asking to much just take a look at this blog and see what people like us are doing on our own. The other thing I believe people would buy is a clear can with some type of cyclone. Not only would you be able to see if it needs to be emptied, but you'd be able to watch the cyclone in action which would be kind of fun.

In summary this trip has been a blast, yup I wrote that, and it didn't suck at all, yeah, I know. Thanks again to everyone.

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Fluid Gas Composite material Aluminium Transparency
I'm no expert in this field by any means, but from reading Bill Pentz's site I believe to achieve 1500 cfm w/ 2hp requires you to break some laws of physics. The CFM numbers you get from manufacturers are based on having little to no static pressure (SP). In a 2 stage system that's the performance of the blower when the cyclone isn't attached! How useful is that?. With a standard impeller design, you will need at least 3hp and 6" pipes to get over 1000cfm through a cyclone.
 

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#52 ·
Woodcraft Remote Control... it really works!

Finally purchased one of these on sale at Woodcraft. It works great with this setup. Just plug in to the wall and plug the collector in to the remote. The collector fires right up. And the collector is working great too.

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#53 ·
Woodcraft Remote Control... it really works!

Finally purchased one of these on sale at Woodcraft. It works great with this setup. Just plug in to the wall and plug the collector in to the remote. The collector fires right up. And the collector is working great too.

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I was thinking of doing the same to my HF DC is there performance difference? I might go a slightly different root and make mine with a cyclonic separator.Nice job
 

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