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#1 ·
The introduction

The introduction

This is going to be a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .

There are many great site´s with blogs and articles out there about restoring old tools. Most of what I have learned is something I have read about .
Even though I have learned new tips and tricks from every one of them. I have decided to make a blogserie on my journey into the methods of restoring tools. Most of what I will write , you proppebly allready know .

but hopefully I can inspire others to make the same journey and get the same satisfaction
as me when using a well refurbed and tuned tool that gives the tuch of connection to the old craftmen that has owned the tool before you
its nearly as good as having made the tool yourself ...only nearly.. :)

and I do hope you can pic up a tip or two you havn´t seen before and can use yourself .
from what I have read and seen sofare , there is a hole bunch of different methods of how to do things
and what is the best I surdently don´t know but if I can make some conclusions along
the journey I will do it with coution .

feel free to comment and share advice´s if you feel for it, with me and other newbee´s in the trade of rebubing/restoring tools
we will come around lot of different tools some I don´t nearly know nothing about and there for will ask advice´s along the way , I do hope you will share your knowledge with us since I think there most be others that can benefit from it beside me and as I am allso looking for new tips and tricks.

and as usual feel free to laugh with me when I try to be smart and it don´t go so well
and the labritory (the cave ) looks like a disastre of accidents :)......don´t say you ain´t warrend …..LOL

and there will be some dirty DIY stuff too , smile and laugh over it but it will proppebly
only be used one or two times :)

hope I can come up with one or two nerd thing´s along the way … you will be warrend if/when it happen

for those who want to see some of the tools I have to get thrugh in this winther
feel free a look at my bragging toolgloat serie …..ooh yes I´m happy ….
but alot of work ahead ..LOL

have a safe but great day :)

take care
Dennis
 
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#4 ·
Go for it Dennis!
Look forward to see the 'old tool terminator' in action.`
You are the disease - I'm the cure… You will work! And no one missing in action.
Best thoughts,
Mads
 
#5 ·
Steliart :
I will try my best since I have a lot of wooden planes in the pile so maybee there is enoff
to get one ready ….LOL (you know there is a learning curve )

Robert : Thank´s :)

Mads :
well some has to have the bad job …LOL
but I realy do preciate you are there to rescue me :)

take care
Dennis
 
#7 ·
Canadianchips : thank´s
yah surely you have just another copple of thousend planes
in some boxes floding around somewhere …...... LOL
I will try a few of the unorthodox methods my self along the way
and glad to hear we have an expert in them among us :)
be ready to recieve a bunch of questions …..LOL

take care
Dennis
 
#9 ·
You will lead the way and I will follow. I'm sure you will get into cleaning rust and corrosion from the metal parts. I would like to learn about how to do this properly. I am looking forward to you series.
 
#10 ·
Steve :
thank´s just hope you have enoff work and coffee in the mug
under the waitingtime between the laugh …LOL

Ken : I´m not so sure I will lead the way ,mostly it will be follow others when we make experiments
in the labritory ….I will see if I can remember to warn you if it explode in one of the episode´s ….LOL
and yes one try out in the misterie metal vs. rustygithis world we will do to start with in one of the first episodes.

take care
Dennis
 
#12 ·
Rand :
Thank´s but for once I think you will be glad you ain´t near , or at least to start with,
otherweise you will think I´m one big disastre accident maker and nothing ells …..LOL
well I gess it is allowed we can be like a absent-minded nerds now and then :)

take care
Dennis
 
#15 ·
Div :
thank´s hope you will get some big smiles out of it :)
I´m not sure I can learn you anything ..other than what not to do ….lol

Rand :
bring it over , I´m always ready to have a freindly talk with a blitz even a slow one
if my head calculation is correct ….hmmmm lets see 4 miles is 4×1,64 = 6560 meters per hour =
6560 : 3600 sec. = 1,82 meters per sec. ...hmmm I think I can handle that ….LOL

take care
Dennis
 
#16 ·
I will enjoy following you through this series Dennis! I am sure it will be fun and interesting to read. I am really look forward to what is to come. :)

Sheila
 
#18 ·
some dirty DIY gutterwork

Some dirty DIY gutterwork
.
.
.
.

Remember this is a travel into a new world for me
and I will try different methods along the way .

.
.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of
what I write , you proppebly already know .the only thing you have to do, to have the
oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.

We have to have something to clean things in and a place to do it and since its winther time and can get messy.
I choose to bee in the basement and use plastic …..yah I know …not the right place to say the P - word …sorry I will try to minimise the use of the word ….promisse.
I will come back in the next blog and relief the secret of why a gutter then you can deside
if its necessery to make the work or find another solution to your needs
use buckets , containers or what ever works for you in the situation of course you
don´t need a ten gallon container if a glas is the right choice becourse you only have
one tiny screw to refurb and vice versa :)
.
.
.

What you need in this episode :
.
some plastic-Gutter … (Sorry) a 8-12 L plastic-container …. (Sorry) and a table where
you can play with whater , acids and cemicals and it doesn´t matter if it gets dirty with
other words …...a P….table ….(sorry). a little tube glassclear bathroom-silicone or specielglue for gutter
and some wood scrap in the right size to do the job…remember nothing fancy here
I used some raw pallet-wood
.
.
.
.

The gutter work :
.
.
use the glue or sillicone to glue the endcaps to the gutter and be sure to do it on the in-
side arch of the endcap that will be on the outside part of the gutter …..no I didn´t
made a fail here .. :)
and then give it a good layer on the inside of the gutter where is meets the endcap
so you are sure it´s water-tight.
do it in both ends and you are done with the nasty sillicone :)
.
.
.

the palletwood ,gutter with glued endcaps and the tube of sillicone
.
Wood Flooring Wood stain Hardwood Font

.
.
.

The Cradle work :
.
.
To find out what radius of the arches in the cradles shuold be we have to messure the gutter
and see how wide it is , use a ruler to do it with i used a wooden ruler :) and then
then take a compass to set the half of the messurement to get the radius ,
I got a little help from Mr Humle (my greasebox ) as you can see in the picture
he was very curios about what I was doing and asked alot of questions before
I said to him " come and help ,then you will get the answers along the way" and since
he sensed a good story to be told later he was ready in a millisecond after he had told
the other tools to stop the small-talk ….....so quiet there was ….not nice …. had to tell
them to ceep on …after all its about having fun in the cave …...right :)
.
.

here is my Danish inch-ruler Swirt , the compass and Mr. Humble
working as a team :) remember not to messure the lip if your gutter has it

.
Wood Creative arts Wood stain Plank Hardwood

.
.

here I used a carpenter-pencil to highlight the scribed line
of the radius compass made

.
Wood Tool Hardwood Wood stain Plank

.
.
.
since my my turning saw has to be restored and I thought it was little too much for
my fretsaws fine teeth ,
I did take , a dear old freind with more than 30+ years behind him ,out of the box
and as usual he was smiling and glad he cuold help with some work knowing
he was the specialist in curved things ….....sorry foks …yes he is a electronkiller
but non the less an good old freind that never had given me a chance to complain
over his willingness to do any job I have asked for :)
.
.

the arch cut in the pallet wood by my dear old trusty Jiigsaw
.
Wood Gas Hardwood Wood stain Machine

.
.

all you have to do now is to take the four archcut piece´s and pair them with four
straight pieces and make two frame´s and you have your cradles :)
.
I hope you will enjoy the dirty DIY work both with the P….no.. no didn´t said it
and the slam together thing of wood as I did
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
.

take care
Dennis
 

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#19 ·
some dirty DIY gutterwork

Some dirty DIY gutterwork
.
.
.
.

Remember this is a travel into a new world for me
and I will try different methods along the way .

.
.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of
what I write , you proppebly already know .the only thing you have to do, to have the
oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.

We have to have something to clean things in and a place to do it and since its winther time and can get messy.
I choose to bee in the basement and use plastic …..yah I know …not the right place to say the P - word …sorry I will try to minimise the use of the word ….promisse.
I will come back in the next blog and relief the secret of why a gutter then you can deside
if its necessery to make the work or find another solution to your needs
use buckets , containers or what ever works for you in the situation of course you
don´t need a ten gallon container if a glas is the right choice becourse you only have
one tiny screw to refurb and vice versa :)
.
.
.

What you need in this episode :
.
some plastic-Gutter … (Sorry) a 8-12 L plastic-container …. (Sorry) and a table where
you can play with whater , acids and cemicals and it doesn´t matter if it gets dirty with
other words …...a P….table ….(sorry). a little tube glassclear bathroom-silicone or specielglue for gutter
and some wood scrap in the right size to do the job…remember nothing fancy here
I used some raw pallet-wood
.
.
.
.

The gutter work :
.
.
use the glue or sillicone to glue the endcaps to the gutter and be sure to do it on the in-
side arch of the endcap that will be on the outside part of the gutter …..no I didn´t
made a fail here .. :)
and then give it a good layer on the inside of the gutter where is meets the endcap
so you are sure it´s water-tight.
do it in both ends and you are done with the nasty sillicone :)
.
.
.

the palletwood ,gutter with glued endcaps and the tube of sillicone
.
Wood Flooring Wood stain Hardwood Font

.
.
.

The Cradle work :
.
.
To find out what radius of the arches in the cradles shuold be we have to messure the gutter
and see how wide it is , use a ruler to do it with i used a wooden ruler :) and then
then take a compass to set the half of the messurement to get the radius ,
I got a little help from Mr Humle (my greasebox ) as you can see in the picture
he was very curios about what I was doing and asked alot of questions before
I said to him " come and help ,then you will get the answers along the way" and since
he sensed a good story to be told later he was ready in a millisecond after he had told
the other tools to stop the small-talk ….....so quiet there was ….not nice …. had to tell
them to ceep on …after all its about having fun in the cave …...right :)
.
.

here is my Danish inch-ruler Swirt , the compass and Mr. Humble
working as a team :) remember not to messure the lip if your gutter has it

.
Wood Creative arts Wood stain Plank Hardwood

.
.

here I used a carpenter-pencil to highlight the scribed line
of the radius compass made

.
Wood Tool Hardwood Wood stain Plank

.
.
.
since my my turning saw has to be restored and I thought it was little too much for
my fretsaws fine teeth ,
I did take , a dear old freind with more than 30+ years behind him ,out of the box
and as usual he was smiling and glad he cuold help with some work knowing
he was the specialist in curved things ….....sorry foks …yes he is a electronkiller
but non the less an good old freind that never had given me a chance to complain
over his willingness to do any job I have asked for :)
.
.

the arch cut in the pallet wood by my dear old trusty Jiigsaw
.
Wood Gas Hardwood Wood stain Machine

.
.

all you have to do now is to take the four archcut piece´s and pair them with four
straight pieces and make two frame´s and you have your cradles :)
.
I hope you will enjoy the dirty DIY work both with the P….no.. no didn´t said it
and the slam together thing of wood as I did
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
.

take care
Dennis
nothing like a clean slate
to start a good journey

this is great dennis
all us new age woodworkers
learning how to restore and use old tools

and take care of them

thank you

i'll be learning right along with you
 

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#47 ·
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 1

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.
.
.
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 1
.
.
.
Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
.
Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.
.
.
.
This is pretty much where we left in the last blog ,ready to rock´roll
.
and a place to do it
.
Table , gutter , container , wather and Citric Acid
.
Table Gas Plastic bottle Water bottle Wood

.
.
.

Why using Citric Acid :
.
becourse its a very weak organic acid and is found in Lemons , Oranges ,Limes and other citrus fruits that contain high concentrations of citric acid
its environmentally friendly ,a quick simple and safe way of removing rust on iron and old tools to drop it in a bath made with a solution of wather and Citric Acid
the Citric Acid is used all over in the food-industry to add saur-taste to it
Many different acids can be used to remove rust from iron and steel. The advantage that citric acid has over some other acids, is that it is less caustic, , while remaining quite effective.
and can bee tossed in the sure/drain when finished with it
.
when I say its a simple and safe ,then don´t forget that Mixing acid with water can be Dangerus So, when diluting acid, pour the acid in the water "slowly". And follow your safety rules by wearing goggles and apron. (This is primarily a reminder to those who insist on using concentrated hydrochloric, sulphuric or nitric acid)
.
.
.
.
.

How much do you have to use :
.
in the article made by James D Thompson where I did read about using Citric he mention
he used a cup of it to 1 gallon of wather …..OH BOY did I get confused…...yes
becourse was a cup …. an expresso cup , coffee cup , teacup or on a size of a mug
so I desided to use my Deciliter scoop and used 1½ Deciliter per gallon and it went
very well …...since then I have discovered in another blog Don posted http://lumberjocks.com/topics/23512 from Roger Clark where he posted a card with all kinds of meassurements…..that one cup is 237 milliliters. 1/2 liquid pint (excactly) ... thank´s Roger :)
.
Mr. Thompson did mention in the article that others used alot less than he did ….so from my experiments and him its alright to experiment
and use what you feel for more or less…..considering the timefactor you want to use
If, after mixing several minutes, you see citric acid crystals forming on the bottom of the mixing vessel, don't add any more crystals. The solution is at or beyond the saturation point.
.
.
.
.

Little for the nerds
.
solubility in wather is 73g/100ml at 20 degree Celsius

Citric acid + rust yields iron oxide, carbon monoxide, water and hydrogen.

C6H8O7 + Fe2O3------‡ 2 FeO + 6 CO + 2 H2O + 2 H2

The balanced equation shows that 1 mole of citric acid will react with 1 mole of iron(III) oxide to produce 2 moles of Iron(II) oxide, 6 moles of carbon monoxide, 2 moles of water and 2 moles of hydrogen.
.
.
.
This is what happens…..in theory.
.
.
You can alter the reaction rate in 3 ways.
.
1. Concentration: Adding acid (before saturation) increases the number of hydrogen citrate ions that collide with rust particles.
.
2. Stirring: Mixes the solution, diffusing away reacted particles and exposing the rust surface to additional ions.
.
3. Increase solution temperature: Increases velocity of the ions, resulting in a more violent collision with the rust particles.
.
As the reaction time increases, concentration decreases as ions are used up and products formed.
.
This is simply a basic explanation for those wishing to know what happens.
.
.
.
.

How much do you need ?
.
It depends on how many rusty things you want to clean
I started with a ½kg container becourse I cuoldn´t get other size at the store but resently I bought
three 1kg bags of it and I know five puonds ,5kg and 10kg shuold bee possiple to buy
.

Where you can buy it ?
.
search online or find a store that sells cemicals or sell / deliver to brewery´s and people who makes there own beer/wine
here in Denmark 1kg cost 85 kr. = 12 euro at the moment and it shuold bee possiple to found 5pounds for about 20$ in USA
.
.
.
.

is re-using the soluted Acid possiple ?
.
yes it is when you are finish for the day set it a side in a container with a lid and safe it to the next job
and if you want you can refresh it with adding new Citric powder to the solution , to ceep up the trength
when the solution is tooo nasty to look at then just toss it in the drain, remember its freindly to the invirement
and will be cleaned from the water …...at least here in Denmark :)
.
.
.

Is it safe to use ?
.
.
yes it is I don´t use rubber gloves , but since my skin is thin and don´t like alot of things I do have
a bucket with fresh wather besides me both to dip my hands in after some working with the acid
and to dip the iron in to get the acid off it before continueing the work with it
.
.
.

Does it smell ?
.
yes it does smell a little in a fresh cut , but not strong like other acid´s or amonia can do
it smell a little like sour feets the first copple of hours and the first two handwash wont take it
but remember its only in a fresh cut
.
.

Do you need to agitate the solution ?
.
.
well I´m not sure about it , but since I want to get over with the job as fast as possiple
I do stear the water from time to time when I take parts half up and scrup them over
with a very soft brass wire-brush
the wire-brush ain´t used to take of the rust but more to clean the rust from the dung
coming from the collssion of the particles against the rust
so the acid gets free axcess to the rust and my parts is clean when they get up
( look at nr.2 in the nerd - section)
.
.

Do you need to heat the solution of acid ?
.
No you don´t , but ceep it to normal room temp. as min. or above
Why?
I remeber from earlyer jobs when I was young and beautyfull….now I´m only AND
that increasing temp. on many things simply gets faster when it comes to many jobs
you want cemicals to do
and same is possiple here , do to the nr.3 in the nerd section :)
and thats why I raised the temp. to be between 55-65 degrees celsius ….still need to
be able to get my hands in it ….with out being cooked :-O
.

how long does it take ?
.
its all depending of how much you have to de-rust at the same time
and how rusty the things are
how much Citric powder you have used to 1liter/1gallon of wather
and how warm your solution is
.
so every ting from between ½ hour to over 24 hours , but long time work gives another
thing to deal with you will see it furhter down on a picture , not difficult to deal with but nasty
.

here is the sawblades ready to dive in the gutter
.
Wood Table Gas Bench Hardwood

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.
.
.
now you can start to loosen the laughter muscles , becourse I thought I was realy clever when I said to myself
why shuold I work on my knees with the sawblades , so I placed the gutter beside the container I mixed the
Citric acid in and started to pure the half of the two gallon over in the gutter ….............DOOH !........
NOT SO CLEVER AGAIN
since there was only room for one cradle on the table and there is a little differents in the level of the floor
we have the disastre of the day
.

here you see the disastre :-((
.
Wood Gas Flooring Tool Hardwood

.
.
.

Citric all over the floor and right in to my open toolbox witch is a bucket with a toolbelt in and out
so that did take me a copple of hours to clean the tools and re-oil them and some of them had to
be on the radiator over night to dry up
so a lot later than expected I made a new mix ….and remebered to place the gutter on the floor
with two cradles
why didn´t I just do that first time and why didn´t I shorten the gutter down to 1 meter just becourse
they are expencive and wanted to spare some money on the long run …..maybee
.
.
.
.
to get people with slow conections a chance I say…......
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
.
.
take care
Dennis
 

Attachments

#48 ·
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 1

.
.
.
.
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 1
.
.
.
Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
.
Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.
.
.
.
This is pretty much where we left in the last blog ,ready to rock´roll
.
and a place to do it
.
Table , gutter , container , wather and Citric Acid
.
Table Gas Plastic bottle Water bottle Wood

.
.
.

Why using Citric Acid :
.
becourse its a very weak organic acid and is found in Lemons , Oranges ,Limes and other citrus fruits that contain high concentrations of citric acid
its environmentally friendly ,a quick simple and safe way of removing rust on iron and old tools to drop it in a bath made with a solution of wather and Citric Acid
the Citric Acid is used all over in the food-industry to add saur-taste to it
Many different acids can be used to remove rust from iron and steel. The advantage that citric acid has over some other acids, is that it is less caustic, , while remaining quite effective.
and can bee tossed in the sure/drain when finished with it
.
when I say its a simple and safe ,then don´t forget that Mixing acid with water can be Dangerus So, when diluting acid, pour the acid in the water "slowly". And follow your safety rules by wearing goggles and apron. (This is primarily a reminder to those who insist on using concentrated hydrochloric, sulphuric or nitric acid)
.
.
.
.
.

How much do you have to use :
.
in the article made by James D Thompson where I did read about using Citric he mention
he used a cup of it to 1 gallon of wather …..OH BOY did I get confused…...yes
becourse was a cup …. an expresso cup , coffee cup , teacup or on a size of a mug
so I desided to use my Deciliter scoop and used 1½ Deciliter per gallon and it went
very well …...since then I have discovered in another blog Don posted http://lumberjocks.com/topics/23512 from Roger Clark where he posted a card with all kinds of meassurements…..that one cup is 237 milliliters. 1/2 liquid pint (excactly) ... thank´s Roger :)
.
Mr. Thompson did mention in the article that others used alot less than he did ….so from my experiments and him its alright to experiment
and use what you feel for more or less…..considering the timefactor you want to use
If, after mixing several minutes, you see citric acid crystals forming on the bottom of the mixing vessel, don't add any more crystals. The solution is at or beyond the saturation point.
.
.
.
.

Little for the nerds
.
solubility in wather is 73g/100ml at 20 degree Celsius

Citric acid + rust yields iron oxide, carbon monoxide, water and hydrogen.

C6H8O7 + Fe2O3------‡ 2 FeO + 6 CO + 2 H2O + 2 H2

The balanced equation shows that 1 mole of citric acid will react with 1 mole of iron(III) oxide to produce 2 moles of Iron(II) oxide, 6 moles of carbon monoxide, 2 moles of water and 2 moles of hydrogen.
.
.
.
This is what happens…..in theory.
.
.
You can alter the reaction rate in 3 ways.
.
1. Concentration: Adding acid (before saturation) increases the number of hydrogen citrate ions that collide with rust particles.
.
2. Stirring: Mixes the solution, diffusing away reacted particles and exposing the rust surface to additional ions.
.
3. Increase solution temperature: Increases velocity of the ions, resulting in a more violent collision with the rust particles.
.
As the reaction time increases, concentration decreases as ions are used up and products formed.
.
This is simply a basic explanation for those wishing to know what happens.
.
.
.
.

How much do you need ?
.
It depends on how many rusty things you want to clean
I started with a ½kg container becourse I cuoldn´t get other size at the store but resently I bought
three 1kg bags of it and I know five puonds ,5kg and 10kg shuold bee possiple to buy
.

Where you can buy it ?
.
search online or find a store that sells cemicals or sell / deliver to brewery´s and people who makes there own beer/wine
here in Denmark 1kg cost 85 kr. = 12 euro at the moment and it shuold bee possiple to found 5pounds for about 20$ in USA
.
.
.
.

is re-using the soluted Acid possiple ?
.
yes it is when you are finish for the day set it a side in a container with a lid and safe it to the next job
and if you want you can refresh it with adding new Citric powder to the solution , to ceep up the trength
when the solution is tooo nasty to look at then just toss it in the drain, remember its freindly to the invirement
and will be cleaned from the water …...at least here in Denmark :)
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Is it safe to use ?
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yes it is I don´t use rubber gloves , but since my skin is thin and don´t like alot of things I do have
a bucket with fresh wather besides me both to dip my hands in after some working with the acid
and to dip the iron in to get the acid off it before continueing the work with it
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Does it smell ?
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yes it does smell a little in a fresh cut , but not strong like other acid´s or amonia can do
it smell a little like sour feets the first copple of hours and the first two handwash wont take it
but remember its only in a fresh cut
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Do you need to agitate the solution ?
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well I´m not sure about it , but since I want to get over with the job as fast as possiple
I do stear the water from time to time when I take parts half up and scrup them over
with a very soft brass wire-brush
the wire-brush ain´t used to take of the rust but more to clean the rust from the dung
coming from the collssion of the particles against the rust
so the acid gets free axcess to the rust and my parts is clean when they get up
( look at nr.2 in the nerd - section)
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Do you need to heat the solution of acid ?
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No you don´t , but ceep it to normal room temp. as min. or above
Why?
I remeber from earlyer jobs when I was young and beautyfull….now I´m only AND
that increasing temp. on many things simply gets faster when it comes to many jobs
you want cemicals to do
and same is possiple here , do to the nr.3 in the nerd section :)
and thats why I raised the temp. to be between 55-65 degrees celsius ….still need to
be able to get my hands in it ….with out being cooked :-O
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how long does it take ?
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its all depending of how much you have to de-rust at the same time
and how rusty the things are
how much Citric powder you have used to 1liter/1gallon of wather
and how warm your solution is
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so every ting from between ½ hour to over 24 hours , but long time work gives another
thing to deal with you will see it furhter down on a picture , not difficult to deal with but nasty
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here is the sawblades ready to dive in the gutter
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Wood Table Gas Bench Hardwood

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now you can start to loosen the laughter muscles , becourse I thought I was realy clever when I said to myself
why shuold I work on my knees with the sawblades , so I placed the gutter beside the container I mixed the
Citric acid in and started to pure the half of the two gallon over in the gutter ….............DOOH !........
NOT SO CLEVER AGAIN
since there was only room for one cradle on the table and there is a little differents in the level of the floor
we have the disastre of the day
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here you see the disastre :-((
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Wood Gas Flooring Tool Hardwood

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Citric all over the floor and right in to my open toolbox witch is a bucket with a toolbelt in and out
so that did take me a copple of hours to clean the tools and re-oil them and some of them had to
be on the radiator over night to dry up
so a lot later than expected I made a new mix ….and remebered to place the gutter on the floor
with two cradles
why didn´t I just do that first time and why didn´t I shorten the gutter down to 1 meter just becourse
they are expencive and wanted to spare some money on the long run …..maybee
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to get people with slow conections a chance I say…......
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Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
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.
.
take care
Dennis
I can't wait to see how those saw blades turn out. This citric acid method is very intriguing. It's environmentally friendly. At wok we use big citric acid tablets to de-chlorinate water from lines that have been super chlorinated to clean them.
 

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#62 ·
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 2

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Removing Rust with Citric Acid 2
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Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
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Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
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Little more to the nerd´s and historic interrested
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The discovery of Citric acid has the iraq born in 8th century Islamic alchemist Jabir Ibn Hayyan credit for but it wasn´t before in 1784 Citric acid was first isolated by the Swedish chemist Carl Wilhelm Scheele, who crystallized it from lemon juice. Industrial-scale citric acid production began in 1890 based on the Italien citrus fruit industri
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The real nerd´s and historic intrrested can go to wikipedia and read more :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_
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.

In the last episode we left when the disastre hit , since then the toolbox is back in ordre fit for fight when needed and it did gave me inspiration to do something with the mess of all the movingbox´s filled with tools
so now the shop is reorganised and I can see the floor again and have little room to work in when I refurb/restore the tools but let us come back to the day when I started with the Citric acid and now with two cradles under the gutter :)
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Now we can continue
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Wood Flooring Floor Hardwood Composite material

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I thought it shuold be a ½ hour to 40 minuts little project to clean the sawblades since I started with 65 degree celcius
hot Citric acid but didn´t count on how difficult it wuold be to maintain the heat in the gutter …..zero chance of it and hat only used the half of the Citric acid Mr.Thompson had.
so it did take a bit longer around 3 hours mostly waiting time except for the minut I used a from time to time
brushing lightly with a very soft brasswire brush on them on both sides ,not to waste to much time and the oppetunity
of using the rest of the Citric acid I dump a few irons from some old planes in the container as well
it was in the waiting time I got the crazy idea of trying to bring little ordre to what had been a shop once way back
behind a darkgrey cloud before L J.
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sawblades and some planeirons in the Citric acid
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Wood Gas Bag Metal Font

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after the 3 hours and the blades was derusted as I hoped for and clean ,a few thing to remember is
to get them thrugh some clean wather to get the acid of and dry the iron with a hairdryer or heatgun
so all the wather is of and re-oil all the parts you only have a few minuts before the rust start to explode
right into you face again
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here you see the clean sawblades
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Saw Knife Tool Blade Wood

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since I was excided about the result and knowing I just saved my vallet being emptyed for around
125 euro and it was 2 a´clock in the night + I gess a little lazyness at that time and I shuold up
6 a´clock and get to work I more or less forgot about the plane irons so they stayed in the Citric acid
until next day , witch was both bad and good
.
.
remember this from the nerd section in the last episode
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Citric acid + rust yields iron oxide, carbon monoxide, water and hydrogen.
.
C6H8O7 + Fe2O3------‡ 2 FeO + 6 CO + 2 H2O + 2 H2
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The balanced equation shows that 1 mole of citric acid will react with 1 mole of iron(III) oxide to produce 2 moles of Iron(II) oxide, 6 moles of carbon monoxide, 2 moles of water and 2 moles of hydrogen
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this is one of the time when you want you have some rubber or thin latex gloves to protect your hands from
some dirty nasty dung/thing/what ever you might call it …LOL…well its easy enoff to scrub of with some soap
and a brush and ain´t dangerus
.
.

here you see what I meen ….not so good
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Hand tool Wood Tool Metalworking hand tool Household hardware

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its easy enoff to clean the iron from the black dung with the rough side of a kitchen spunch before you
use a few minuts with the soft brasswire brush , remember fresh water ,drying with heatgun and oil right after :)
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here you see three stages of the cleaning
before de-rusting, before the spunch and halfway thrugh with the spunch

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Wood Wall Gas Flooring Wood stain

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on the next pictures you see the irons after the cleaning , drying and re-oiling
the grey aria´s is not the dung but small holes where the rust had penetrated
deeper into the iron

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Wood Gas Machine Screw Metal

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Wood Gas Art Font Tints and shades

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Warning….Warning don´t let cast-iron stay over night from what have descovered it doesn´t
seems to like it very much …even though its a mild acid its still an acid and the polished area
on one of my levercap´s now look like it comes directly from the pattern where it was made in
I will update with a picture later so you can see it

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Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
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hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff_
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.
.
Take care

Dennis
 

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#63 ·
Removing Rust with Citric Acid 2

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Removing Rust with Citric Acid 2
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Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
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.
.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.
.
.

Little more to the nerd´s and historic interrested
.
The discovery of Citric acid has the iraq born in 8th century Islamic alchemist Jabir Ibn Hayyan credit for but it wasn´t before in 1784 Citric acid was first isolated by the Swedish chemist Carl Wilhelm Scheele, who crystallized it from lemon juice. Industrial-scale citric acid production began in 1890 based on the Italien citrus fruit industri
.
.
The real nerd´s and historic intrrested can go to wikipedia and read more :)
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_
.
.
.
.

In the last episode we left when the disastre hit , since then the toolbox is back in ordre fit for fight when needed and it did gave me inspiration to do something with the mess of all the movingbox´s filled with tools
so now the shop is reorganised and I can see the floor again and have little room to work in when I refurb/restore the tools but let us come back to the day when I started with the Citric acid and now with two cradles under the gutter :)
.
.

Now we can continue
.

Wood Flooring Floor Hardwood Composite material

.
.
.

I thought it shuold be a ½ hour to 40 minuts little project to clean the sawblades since I started with 65 degree celcius
hot Citric acid but didn´t count on how difficult it wuold be to maintain the heat in the gutter …..zero chance of it and hat only used the half of the Citric acid Mr.Thompson had.
so it did take a bit longer around 3 hours mostly waiting time except for the minut I used a from time to time
brushing lightly with a very soft brasswire brush on them on both sides ,not to waste to much time and the oppetunity
of using the rest of the Citric acid I dump a few irons from some old planes in the container as well
it was in the waiting time I got the crazy idea of trying to bring little ordre to what had been a shop once way back
behind a darkgrey cloud before L J.
.
.

sawblades and some planeirons in the Citric acid
.
Wood Gas Bag Metal Font

.
.
.

after the 3 hours and the blades was derusted as I hoped for and clean ,a few thing to remember is
to get them thrugh some clean wather to get the acid of and dry the iron with a hairdryer or heatgun
so all the wather is of and re-oil all the parts you only have a few minuts before the rust start to explode
right into you face again
.
.
here you see the clean sawblades
.
Saw Knife Tool Blade Wood

.
.
.
since I was excided about the result and knowing I just saved my vallet being emptyed for around
125 euro and it was 2 a´clock in the night + I gess a little lazyness at that time and I shuold up
6 a´clock and get to work I more or less forgot about the plane irons so they stayed in the Citric acid
until next day , witch was both bad and good
.
.
remember this from the nerd section in the last episode
.
.
Citric acid + rust yields iron oxide, carbon monoxide, water and hydrogen.
.
C6H8O7 + Fe2O3------‡ 2 FeO + 6 CO + 2 H2O + 2 H2
.

The balanced equation shows that 1 mole of citric acid will react with 1 mole of iron(III) oxide to produce 2 moles of Iron(II) oxide, 6 moles of carbon monoxide, 2 moles of water and 2 moles of hydrogen
.
.
this is one of the time when you want you have some rubber or thin latex gloves to protect your hands from
some dirty nasty dung/thing/what ever you might call it …LOL…well its easy enoff to scrub of with some soap
and a brush and ain´t dangerus
.
.

here you see what I meen ….not so good
.
Hand tool Wood Tool Metalworking hand tool Household hardware

.
.
.
its easy enoff to clean the iron from the black dung with the rough side of a kitchen spunch before you
use a few minuts with the soft brasswire brush , remember fresh water ,drying with heatgun and oil right after :)
.
.
.
.
.

here you see three stages of the cleaning
before de-rusting, before the spunch and halfway thrugh with the spunch

.
Wood Wall Gas Flooring Wood stain

.
.
.

on the next pictures you see the irons after the cleaning , drying and re-oiling
the grey aria´s is not the dung but small holes where the rust had penetrated
deeper into the iron

.

Wood Gas Machine Screw Metal

.
.

Wood Gas Art Font Tints and shades

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

Warning….Warning don´t let cast-iron stay over night from what have descovered it doesn´t
seems to like it very much …even though its a mild acid its still an acid and the polished area
on one of my levercap´s now look like it comes directly from the pattern where it was made in
I will update with a picture later so you can see it

.
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff_
.
.
.
Take care

Dennis
There was probably a nickel coating on the part, I would think that the acid would react with the nickel as well. The plane irons are looking good Dennis, I can't wait to get started.
 

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#82 ·
Soap #1

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Soap and a warning
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Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
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.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.

Warning….Warning don´t let cast-iron stay over night in Citric acid from what have descovered it doesn´t
seems to like it very much …even though its a mild acid its still an acid and the polished area
on one of my levercap´s now look like it comes directly from the pattern where it was made in
as you can see in the two pictures

.
Hand tool Tool Metal Household hardware Metalworking hand tool

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.

Tool Wood Fashion accessory Everyday carry Metal


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.
since last episode I have manage to de-rust 75-80 items so fare all from sawblades via plane iron to screws
thank god Citric acid is able of cleaning more than one piece at a time .
and pick up my last toolgloat bought long before Chrismas but that is shown on another blog :)
.
finely I got some serius shop time again :) and I wanted to have wood between my hands
instead of iron …..sort of , and was tired of getting my hands clothe and nose filled with dirty dust all the time
I just turned around in the shop there for I desided to clean the wooden plane body´s from
all the dust they have collected in cold attic´s,barne´s and moistered basement´s and who knows where
they have been stored the last decade or three since they last was in used in a shop.
.
you can use either dishsoap , universial cleaning soap or painters univesial cleaning , have used all three
but I do prefer painters clearning or a good universial soap, since the painters can be used in
two different way´s and some of the universial have the same advantage, for daily light cleaning
and in haveyer doze use for realy clean any dust , fingergrease and necotine from smoking and smoke
from fireplaces

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.
ready for a bath
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Gas Kitchen appliance Plumbing fixture Automotive exterior Kitchen utensil

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no we don´t want the planes to soak in the wather for hours , so stay above the wather with them, we only
want to clean the dust ,spiders and what ells there isn´t a part of a tool, so we can see what we are dealing with before the real refurb
in this case just wanted to use the daily solution
.
use a brush
.

Wood Finger Gas Hardwood Cooking

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.
.

forget your teeth and use your toothbrush to get into small place´s
.

Wood Electrical wiring Gas Cable Electrical supply

.
.
.
if there is screws in some of the more speciel plane´s like bullnose and others
then clean the slot in the screwhead with a needle or very small screwdriver before you try to loosen them
with a screwdriver that fit the slot , you don´t want any nick´s there believe me a one way screw ain´t
easy to get out ….LOL…......(sorry for the blured picture)
.

Wood Amber Tints and shades Rim Glass

.
.
.
and as usual not everything goes like planned in the labritory speciel if you don´t use your eye´s
and do thing´s per automatic , every one who use planes with wedge´s know you tap the plane
on the back end to loosen the wedge and so is it allso with side-escapement-plane´s but there
is the iron taken out downwards instead ,
hitting iron or wedge with anything to take the plane apart is a no-no so of course I didn´t look in that direction when I was tapping harder and harder with my wooden mallethead on the end of the plane
holding it opsite down
after ten minuts off frustration over that
Code:
$%&
plane I finely choose to put it aside for the day…............and there lighted the bulb with a bright shinney light and my hand slapped my head
while I swear a little more over my self realy embaresing to discover I had a one time set and forget plane …..sort of :-(
.
.
.
look for yourself and gess what never will happen
.
.
Wood Wood stain Hardwood Lumber Flooring

.
.
.
.
be very carefull when you straighten the iron enoff to get the wedge out
.
.
here is some pictures of a day with dish washing…..........eerh light toolwashing
.
in the first picture all the iron is de-rusted too placed beside the planes 5 off them in the box´s at left
.

Wood Machine Lumber Art Metal

.
.
.
in the next two most of the tools still needed de-rusting and some of the planes need new irons
.

Food Tableware Ingredient Cuisine Wood

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.
.

Wood Hand tool Tool Wood stain Hardwood

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.
.
.
and giving the folk´s with slow connection and my self a chance I say
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
take care
Dennis
 

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#83 ·
Soap #1

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Soap and a warning
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.
.
.
.

Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
.
.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.

Warning….Warning don´t let cast-iron stay over night in Citric acid from what have descovered it doesn´t
seems to like it very much …even though its a mild acid its still an acid and the polished area
on one of my levercap´s now look like it comes directly from the pattern where it was made in
as you can see in the two pictures

.
Hand tool Tool Metal Household hardware Metalworking hand tool

.
.

Tool Wood Fashion accessory Everyday carry Metal


.
.
.
.
.
since last episode I have manage to de-rust 75-80 items so fare all from sawblades via plane iron to screws
thank god Citric acid is able of cleaning more than one piece at a time .
and pick up my last toolgloat bought long before Chrismas but that is shown on another blog :)
.
finely I got some serius shop time again :) and I wanted to have wood between my hands
instead of iron …..sort of , and was tired of getting my hands clothe and nose filled with dirty dust all the time
I just turned around in the shop there for I desided to clean the wooden plane body´s from
all the dust they have collected in cold attic´s,barne´s and moistered basement´s and who knows where
they have been stored the last decade or three since they last was in used in a shop.
.
you can use either dishsoap , universial cleaning soap or painters univesial cleaning , have used all three
but I do prefer painters clearning or a good universial soap, since the painters can be used in
two different way´s and some of the universial have the same advantage, for daily light cleaning
and in haveyer doze use for realy clean any dust , fingergrease and necotine from smoking and smoke
from fireplaces

.
.
ready for a bath
.

Gas Kitchen appliance Plumbing fixture Automotive exterior Kitchen utensil

.
.
.

no we don´t want the planes to soak in the wather for hours , so stay above the wather with them, we only
want to clean the dust ,spiders and what ells there isn´t a part of a tool, so we can see what we are dealing with before the real refurb
in this case just wanted to use the daily solution
.
use a brush
.

Wood Finger Gas Hardwood Cooking

.
.
.

forget your teeth and use your toothbrush to get into small place´s
.

Wood Electrical wiring Gas Cable Electrical supply

.
.
.
if there is screws in some of the more speciel plane´s like bullnose and others
then clean the slot in the screwhead with a needle or very small screwdriver before you try to loosen them
with a screwdriver that fit the slot , you don´t want any nick´s there believe me a one way screw ain´t
easy to get out ….LOL…......(sorry for the blured picture)
.

Wood Amber Tints and shades Rim Glass

.
.
.
and as usual not everything goes like planned in the labritory speciel if you don´t use your eye´s
and do thing´s per automatic , every one who use planes with wedge´s know you tap the plane
on the back end to loosen the wedge and so is it allso with side-escapement-plane´s but there
is the iron taken out downwards instead ,
hitting iron or wedge with anything to take the plane apart is a no-no so of course I didn´t look in that direction when I was tapping harder and harder with my wooden mallethead on the end of the plane
holding it opsite down
after ten minuts off frustration over that
Code:
$%&
plane I finely choose to put it aside for the day…............and there lighted the bulb with a bright shinney light and my hand slapped my head
while I swear a little more over my self realy embaresing to discover I had a one time set and forget plane …..sort of :-(
.
.
.
look for yourself and gess what never will happen
.
.
Wood Wood stain Hardwood Lumber Flooring

.
.
.
.
be very carefull when you straighten the iron enoff to get the wedge out
.
.
here is some pictures of a day with dish washing…..........eerh light toolwashing
.
in the first picture all the iron is de-rusted too placed beside the planes 5 off them in the box´s at left
.

Wood Machine Lumber Art Metal

.
.
.
in the next two most of the tools still needed de-rusting and some of the planes need new irons
.

Food Tableware Ingredient Cuisine Wood

.
.
.

Wood Hand tool Tool Wood stain Hardwood

.
.
.
.
and giving the folk´s with slow connection and my self a chance I say
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
.
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
take care
Dennis
I take it your doing all those planes at the same time? Just be careful not to get the parts mixed up like I did!

I have done multiple planes at once and got the parts mixed up. I was able to figure out what piece went to what plane but it was a bit of a pain. Now if I do more then one I keep all the pieces separate in their own tub or jar.

Its a lot of fun cleaning and restoring old tools.
 

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#96 ·
Soap #1

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Soap and a warning
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.
.
.

Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .
.
.

Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.

Warning….Warning don´t let cast-iron stay over night in Citric acid from what have descovered it doesn´t
seems to like it very much …even though its a mild acid its still an acid and the polished area
on one of my levercap´s now look like it comes directly from the pattern where it was made in
as you can see in the two pictures

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since last episode I have manage to de-rust 75-80 items so fare all from sawblades via plane iron to screws
thank god Citric acid is able of cleaning more than one piece at a time .
and pick up my last toolgloat bought long before Chrismas but that is shown on another blog :)
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finely I got some serius shop time again :) and I wanted to have wood between my hands
instead of iron …..sort of , and was tired of getting my hands clothe and nose filled with dirty dust all the time
I just turned around in the shop there for I desided to clean the wooden plane body´s from
all the dust they have collected in cold attic´s,barne´s and moistered basement´s and who knows where
they have been stored the last decade or three since they last was in used in a shop.
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you can use either dishsoap , universial cleaning soap or painters univesial cleaning , have used all three
but I do prefer painters clearning or a good universial soap, since the painters can be used in
two different way´s and some of the universial have the same advantage, for daily light cleaning
and in haveyer doze use for realy clean any dust , fingergrease and necotine from smoking and smoke
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ready for a bath
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no we don´t want the planes to soak in the wather for hours , so stay above the wather with them, we only
want to clean the dust ,spiders and what ells there isn´t a part of a tool, so we can see what we are dealing with before the real refurb
in this case just wanted to use the daily solution
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use a brush
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forget your teeth and use your toothbrush to get into small place´s
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if there is screws in some of the more speciel plane´s like bullnose and others
then clean the slot in the screwhead with a needle or very small screwdriver before you try to loosen them
with a screwdriver that fit the slot , you don´t want any nick´s there believe me a one way screw ain´t
easy to get out ….LOL…......(sorry for the blured picture)
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and as usual not everything goes like planned in the labritory speciel if you don´t use your eye´s
and do thing´s per automatic , every one who use planes with wedge´s know you tap the plane
on the back end to loosen the wedge and so is it allso with side-escapement-plane´s but there
is the iron taken out downwards instead ,
hitting iron or wedge with anything to take the plane apart is a no-no so of course I didn´t look in that direction when I was tapping harder and harder with my wooden mallethead on the end of the plane
holding it opsite down
after ten minuts off frustration over that
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plane I finely choose to put it aside for the day…............and there lighted the bulb with a bright shinney light and my hand slapped my head
while I swear a little more over my self realy embaresing to discover I had a one time set and forget plane …..sort of :-(
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be very carefull when you straighten the iron enoff to get the wedge out
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here is some pictures of a day with dish washing…..........eerh light toolwashing
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in the first picture all the iron is de-rusted too placed beside the planes 5 off them in the box´s at left
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in the next two most of the tools still needed de-rusting and some of the planes need new irons
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and giving the folk´s with slow connection and my self a chance I say
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Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking
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hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
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take care
Dennis
superdav :
remember I just barely used water on them except when I used clean water to get the soap of them
and didn´t scrub them at all .
this was only to lightcleaning them so I can see what I´m dealing with so I didn´t go further with
oiling or other things now they will rest a week or more so the moist is out of them
and all the patina is still there as well as all the grease/blo that has been used to maintain them with

take care
Dennis
 

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Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .

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Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
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The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
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what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
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a werd day in the shop since I only manage to get the half of the sleep my body needed but even that is
a day in the bed ….right :)
so I started out with several mugs of coffee exstra strong and sugar before heading down to my labritory of dissastres
with two buckets of hot wather and the coffee in my hands…..no I´m not an octopus and I didn´t got wet …LOL
turned on the radio , singing fals to my tools and danced a little while I mixed soap and the wather
and started cleaning …..but ….but …..the energi soon left me right after the first little break so the rest of
the day went by so and so, litle was acomplished …...no I didn´t cut my self even though I didn´t worked with sharp tools
its dangerous enoff just to take them apart if you are realy tired , I know very well not to work with tools if I´m tired
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when I brought home the last tool gloat I discovered what I feared, when my mother told the plane´s cuoldn´t
be taken of the sheed they were placed on as a picture framed and all , that they were glued to the sheed
just glad I had remembered my trusty old jiigsaw so I cuold saw around them , it did make it a lot easyer
to pack in the sack and bring them home .
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you see the framed planes here looking good ….right but only for planes that is never going
to be used again and please find a better way of doing it
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furtunaly they were glued with white indoor wood glue that is watherbased so they soaked a little with just
the sheed under the wather for a few minuts ….and a few gentle wack on a cheisel 2 -3 places between the planes and
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sheedwood did the rest….sort of ..but now it was a lot easyer to work with as you can see
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so I soaked and used the brush several times between using a new cheap cheisel pairing the rest of
little by little and didn´t worryed about all the screwheads in some of the planes cuold damage the cheisel
working on and off on theese it did take a copple of hours to clean them from glue and I know the rust
will explode on the iron in the next copple of days untiil I can get it in Citric acid
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when you try to get screws out , the screws has four option´s to decide from what it wants to do
1. do as you want …. 2. stay put and not move a fraction of a mm….3. turn around but still not coming out
the last option we don´t dare to think of not even in funny mode even though its possiple to take care off that too but thats for another blog
its a NO-NO just to go in and use bruthel force on a screw to start with , gentle power is what you want
to use meine Damen und Herren and lucky for us that is in 96% what´s needed maybee not always as easy as we want but they do come out
to raise the chance to get the screws out then lubricate with a penetration oil overnight if its metal against
metal this can help a lot
if it still don´t move then take a small 1kg short sledgehammer or a deadblowhammer and while you
try to screw the screw in with a gentle force then give the screwdriver a gently wack or two, this will
chock the rust or what ever seems to welding the screw to the tool , then try to unscrew in most cases
this will do the trick

in the third cases is the trick to get the screw out with out just using some kind of a pli´er and destroing
the hole , instead try to use a second small flat screwdriver and press it in between the screwhead
and the wood/iron surface , if its a flatheaded screw you have to lift while you unscrew untill the
screwdriver can catch the tread, if its a countsunk screw then just push in and when you hit thread
just twist the screwdriver a little in the same direction as the tread and voilá out comes the screw
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sometimes when a tool or furniture is handmade it can be necessery to use chims of a kind
between the different things to align them correct so be very carefull not to destroy them
when things is taking apart or loose them later
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here is used papershims on a bullnose plane
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who, where and why this poor plane has been punished so bruthel in the next picture
I don´t know , but its look like someone has used a beltsander on it :-( its one of the
planes from the socalled picture framed tools I was lucky to wack of with a gentle punch
here on the picture its taken apart ready for restoring …its a dovetail plane with knicker
and adjusteble brass fence it will take some work to get it to sing again but …
......with a little bit of luck… :) to the left is two bullnoseplanes one with a crack in the iron nose :-(
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in the next picture you see today´s work not much acomplished do to lack of sleep
and all the taken apart where many of the tools had to be pursvaded to join the restoring
resisting as only a gnarvorn old gubb can do …. the tools you can see all to the right side
is yesterday´s work
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and giving the folk´s with slow connection and my self a chance I say
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Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking .
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hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
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take care
Dennis
 

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Remember this is a travel into a new world for me and I will try different methods along the way .

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Feel free to smile , luagh ,come with comments and advice´s along the way ,since most of what I write , you proppebly already know .
.
The only thing you have to do, to have the oppetunity for it , is to submit to my punishment of the english language and sick humor
.
what I do hope is that you can pick up one or two things you can use yourself
and enjoy the journey with a me.
I will try to devide the blogs so people with slow conections (myself incl.) can have the joy too or at least have the oppetunity to make a rant over the things I try in the labritory (cave)...lol
.
.
.
.
a werd day in the shop since I only manage to get the half of the sleep my body needed but even that is
a day in the bed ….right :)
so I started out with several mugs of coffee exstra strong and sugar before heading down to my labritory of dissastres
with two buckets of hot wather and the coffee in my hands…..no I´m not an octopus and I didn´t got wet …LOL
turned on the radio , singing fals to my tools and danced a little while I mixed soap and the wather
and started cleaning …..but ….but …..the energi soon left me right after the first little break so the rest of
the day went by so and so, litle was acomplished …...no I didn´t cut my self even though I didn´t worked with sharp tools
its dangerous enoff just to take them apart if you are realy tired , I know very well not to work with tools if I´m tired
.
.
.
.
when I brought home the last tool gloat I discovered what I feared, when my mother told the plane´s cuoldn´t
be taken of the sheed they were placed on as a picture framed and all , that they were glued to the sheed
just glad I had remembered my trusty old jiigsaw so I cuold saw around them , it did make it a lot easyer
to pack in the sack and bring them home .
.
.

you see the framed planes here looking good ….right but only for planes that is never going
to be used again and please find a better way of doing it
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furtunaly they were glued with white indoor wood glue that is watherbased so they soaked a little with just
the sheed under the wather for a few minuts ….and a few gentle wack on a cheisel 2 -3 places between the planes and
Code:
#%&"
sheedwood did the rest….sort of ..but now it was a lot easyer to work with as you can see
.
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Brown Food Wood Cuisine Table

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.
.
so I soaked and used the brush several times between using a new cheap cheisel pairing the rest of
little by little and didn´t worryed about all the screwheads in some of the planes cuold damage the cheisel
working on and off on theese it did take a copple of hours to clean them from glue and I know the rust
will explode on the iron in the next copple of days untiil I can get it in Citric acid
.
.
.
.
when you try to get screws out , the screws has four option´s to decide from what it wants to do
1. do as you want …. 2. stay put and not move a fraction of a mm….3. turn around but still not coming out
the last option we don´t dare to think of not even in funny mode even though its possiple to take care off that too but thats for another blog
its a NO-NO just to go in and use bruthel force on a screw to start with , gentle power is what you want
to use meine Damen und Herren and lucky for us that is in 96% what´s needed maybee not always as easy as we want but they do come out
to raise the chance to get the screws out then lubricate with a penetration oil overnight if its metal against
metal this can help a lot
if it still don´t move then take a small 1kg short sledgehammer or a deadblowhammer and while you
try to screw the screw in with a gentle force then give the screwdriver a gently wack or two, this will
chock the rust or what ever seems to welding the screw to the tool , then try to unscrew in most cases
this will do the trick

in the third cases is the trick to get the screw out with out just using some kind of a pli´er and destroing
the hole , instead try to use a second small flat screwdriver and press it in between the screwhead
and the wood/iron surface , if its a flatheaded screw you have to lift while you unscrew untill the
screwdriver can catch the tread, if its a countsunk screw then just push in and when you hit thread
just twist the screwdriver a little in the same direction as the tread and voilá out comes the screw
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here on a bullnose plane
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Wood Material property Font Publication Gas

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sometimes when a tool or furniture is handmade it can be necessery to use chims of a kind
between the different things to align them correct so be very carefull not to destroy them
when things is taking apart or loose them later
.
.
here is used papershims on a bullnose plane
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Newspaper Publication Font Art Pattern

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.
who, where and why this poor plane has been punished so bruthel in the next picture
I don´t know , but its look like someone has used a beltsander on it :-( its one of the
planes from the socalled picture framed tools I was lucky to wack of with a gentle punch
here on the picture its taken apart ready for restoring …its a dovetail plane with knicker
and adjusteble brass fence it will take some work to get it to sing again but …
......with a little bit of luck… :) to the left is two bullnoseplanes one with a crack in the iron nose :-(
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Wood Antique tool Hardwood Wood stain Tableware

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in the next picture you see today´s work not much acomplished do to lack of sleep
and all the taken apart where many of the tools had to be pursvaded to join the restoring
resisting as only a gnarvorn old gubb can do …. the tools you can see all to the right side
is yesterday´s work
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Wood Tableware Shipping box Metal Engineering

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and giving the folk´s with slow connection and my self a chance I say
.
.
.
.
.
.

Th-th-th-that´s all foks … thank´s for looking .
.
.

hope you will return in the next episode where you can hope I
return with some more interressting serius boreing stuff
.
.
take care
Dennis
Good morning Dennis, or is it evening as you are 9 hours ahead of me.
We are enjoying your blog immensely, But please don't over extend yourself on this. GET YOUR REST!
On the white household glue, you might try a hair drier set on high. That stuff doesn't like heat of water. All in all, you did a great job today.
For those stripped threads; When they are in the wood of the plane, you can drill out the old hole and glue in a new hardwood dowel. Redrill and use a new screw and it will be like brand new. Take care, Rand
 

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