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Bob and Mot Go Shopping!

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Bob and Mot Go Shopping!

WARNING! Reading this blog and watching the included video will take 8-10 minutes of your life that you will never get back!

Bob #2 and I were meeting up last Saturday to attend the Edmonton Woodshow.

The show had offerings from Delta, Hitachi, Steel City, General, Dewalt, Lee Valley, Lie Nielsen and a mixture of local guilds and arts and crafts distributors.

Overall, the show was quite good. There was lots of machinery there and Bob and I were able to meet up with Jim Lindsay, inventor of Dowelmax. Jim and his wife Marie, are really great people to spend time with. If you see them at a show, stop by. You'll be glad you did.



Jim has been working on a prototype of another attachment for Dowelmax for mitred box joints. He gave us a heads up and the verbal howto to get it done. A later blog will go through making and testing a similar attachment for my trusty jig.

Bob and I watched a few demos, talked to a lot of tool reps, and one or two reps that were tools. Most products were well represented and the food was pretty good! Bob and I picked up some tools that we wanted. Both of us were impressed with a product from Woodline called, Dadowiz.



Dadowiz is a quick little jig for your router for cutting precise dados. I'm a big fan of having a few different ways to skin a cat and for a quick dado with fast setup and tear down, this little jig works like a charm.

A representative from Laguna Tools was at the show. He was demo'ing the latest and greatest bandsaw offerings as well as their Resaw King blade. There is shot of this in the video at the end of the blog that is worth watch how well this saw and blade cut through a hunk of elm.

Bob got himself an awesome Sliding Compound Mitre Saw from Hitachi. With show price, and rebate, he got a heck of a deal. If I didn't already have the behemoth from Dewalt, this machine would have been in my shop by now.



The folks from Worksharp were also at the show. WayneC did a great blog on the Worksharp system. The show price was also excellent so Bob can't whine about dull tools anymore! Bob picked up the WS3000 System.



I went to the show, jonesing for a Performax 16-32 Drum Sander.



I was quite disappointed to find out that the local dealer didn't bring one to the show. As it turned out, they did, but as our show experience went, the guy that gave us an answer didn't necessarily know the right one. After some wheeling and dealing, and some camel trading that made Bob proud to be my imaginary friend, we had one to load up. The sander came along with it's stand, (which I tried unsuccessfully on several occasions to give to Bob) and infeed/outfeed tables.

We stopped by the Lee Valley booth as they were doing a demo of the Veritas Mk. II Sharpening System. I have this system and have been having less than stellar results with some Lee Valley Chisels that I have. You can read a mini-review in my blog, here. I thought I'd get the guy at the booth to see if he can throw a crazy sharp edge on one of them. Unfortunately, though he was demonstrating the use of the tool the general public, he had quite alot of trouble using it. Bob and I both came to a simultaneous realization, this guy doesn't know how to use it. However, we had him talked into the demo so we sat through it. The biggest time consumer of the demo was watching him put a 20 degree bevel on a 25 degree chisel. Anyway, he finally couldn't get it sharp either so we headed back to the Lie Nielsen booth and I grabbed a few Lie Nielsen Chisels.



At that point, we had been there for about 6 hours and were still having fun. However, all good things must come to an end and we loaded up our booty and headed back to Bob's shop. Our intention was to setup the Hitachi Saw but both being quite fatigued with our day, we saw a big bag of hardware that came with the stand and both instantly lost any motivation to put something together.

There were, four memorable moments from the days outing. Unfortunately we didn't have video running on any of them but I'll do my best to describe the events…

First of all, Bob #2 is a great guy and the day was well spent. We laughed, he cried, it was all good!
Second, was a quote from Bob…."Get my son anything he wants!"
Third was a quote from Mot…"Excuse us, my grandfather is old…he gets confused…"

And the grand daddy of memorable moments came, thanks to hand tool guru, Rob Cosman. It turns out that Rob can be a tad smug. Not known for my ability to understate, I'll just leave it at that. Rob was doing a dovetail demo (go figure,) and asked if anyone in the crowd was over 200 pounds. He was eyeballing our Bob #2 when he asked and wasn't looking anywhere else. Rob said, "Can you step on this dovetail joint?" He then placed it on the ground in front of Bob. Bob brought his leg up, and in a show of force that was as enviable and impressive, Bob SMASHED this joint into the cement. Rob's eyes popped out of his head as he just sort of muttered, "Uhhhhh…" Bob asked, "Oh you meant stand on it. You should have asked for what you wanted."

At that point, Rob did gain composure, looking at the joint and held it up to the crowd (which turned out to be mostly an entourage of previous Cosman students - aka Cosmonites.) Rob exclaimed, "The joint didn't fail, the wood failed." And he was right. The show went on. I was hiding behind a few other people at that point as the general feeling in the group was my grandpa's day pass must be just about up, either that or he needs to take his meds.

Here's a somewhat humorous video of our day:

http://jumpcut.com/media/flash/jump.swf?id=474BDC58860111DC9A41000423CEF5B0&asset_type=movie&asset_id=474BDC58860111DC9A41000423CEF5B0&eb=1

Cheers!
 
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#2 ·
that was great!
(Nice to meet you Bob)

sounds like the Lee Valley and the Steel City moments were a little frustrating.
That's too bad.

Those 10 minutes of my life were most enjoyable. Thanks for sharing!
 
#3 ·
Tom -

Another great K & T Woodworking video production! What a treat to see you and Bob #2 in action. Looks like a fun show. What tools / goodies made it back to your shop? Who is the manufacture of the bandsaw in the opening of your video? That sure was a nice thin piece of veneer!

David
 
#4 ·
Egad MOT we're both famous now and in some parts I am infamous ! LOL
As for the little misunderstanding with he DT joints, let me say this:

When I was a kid I boxed for 3 -1/2 years.
Lots of training and I got in real good shape.
A guy I knew that was always bluffing around about his great body asked me (taunted) to hit him in the stomach as proof of his prowess. (He also had encouraged an audience)
I did.
He also didn't say when he wanted this exhibit to start.
My trainer used to yell at me all the time to "step into it!"

Anyway, I think I could cut better dovetails if I paid more attention to Rob Cosman and copied him to a "T", but the short pants would take a bit of getting used to. ;-)

p.s. Mot exaggerates, and there is another show comming up this week in Calgary!

Bob
 
#5 ·
Dave that bandsaw was a Laguna 16" .
The blade they are selling for it ( Carbide tip resaw made by/for Laguna) is incredible.
The finish is just about silk as it comes off the flitch.
I am ordering one for my saw this week.

Bob
 
#7 ·
A representative from Laguna Tools was at the show. He was demo'ing the latest and greatest bandsaw offerings as well as their Resaw King blade. There is shot of this in the video at the end of the blog that is worth watch how well this saw and blade cut through a hunk of elm.
 
#8 ·
Looks like a worthwhile way to spend a day, time with friends and getting to fondle all of the new toys.

You say there were some excellent deals? How much are you talking? A few percent off, 10, 20 ??

About how much for the worksharp and the sander ? how bout a dowelmax? The woodworking show is coming to colorado in a couple weeks, wondering if the deals are worth waiting for. Lee Valley making any deals on their planes? I'm sure I need one or two more of those :)
 
#9 ·
No deals from Lee Valley. No deals from Lie Nielsen. The Performax was purchased for a whopping 40% retail price for the stand/infeed/outfeed/sander combo. This was due to some tag team wheelin and dealin between Bob/Mot and a very nervous salesperson. I actually felt bad for him…I got over it, but there was a second that I felt bad…either that or it was the beef on a bun coming up on me. Regardless, I'm sure this guy regretted asking if he could help. The Worksharp was 20% off. Bob saved almost $300 on the saw/stand combo…perhaps more, depending on the retailer. It wasn't too bad really. I'm not sure that Jim was dealing too much on the Dowelmax.
 
#10 ·
Tom and Bob#2….................that was a fun ten minutes.

Where was the camcorder for the Dovetail stress test…...sorry we all miss that, I guess you're not invited back.

Favorite line….... "talked to a lot of tool reps, and one or two reps that were tools."

Love the atitude…........... "and the food was pretty good! "

Very very enjoyable!!!!!
 
#13 ·
Great trip. I used to go to 3 shows a year when i liven in NJ. They were about 30 minutes away. I've only made it to 1 while in Delaware. about 3 hr away.

Thanks for taking us along.

I've got that resaw blade - aren't they great.
 
#17 ·
Enjoyed the show Tom & Bob#2. Looks like some bargains were had, as well as a good time. You should really enjoy the Performax 16/32, I've had mine about 6 or 7 months and use it almost every trip into the shop.
 
#20 ·
Further to the Hitachi CMS purchase
I should add now that now I have had a chance to play with this excellent tool ( despite the awful manual)
that they have added an adjustable stop to the 90° arc that allows me to cut dadoes.
This is very cool for those of us that does many things on the fly.
With the Laser I can be darned near spot on without having to change tools nd reset.
I hate doing these things with the table saw.
My hands are too big too look forward to the whole on and off BS.

Bob
 
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