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The Slippery Slope #19: Saw Ponderings

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Blog entry by chrisstef posted 06-30-2014 03:11 PM 950 reads 0 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 18: 1874-1875 Disston No 7 Part 19 of The Slippery Slope series Part 20: Moulson Brothers Dovetail Saw Rehab »

I was sitting in the shop last night after the wife and baby went to sleep trying to suppress the inevitable Sunday night blues. You all know the feeling, another pending week of work weighing on ya. With my new saw vice made up and a bit of enthusiasm for sharpening restored, I cinched up a Disston 12 that I had in the till waiting for me to amend a poor crosscut filing I had done probably a year ago. I started in on it and about 1/4 of the way through my mind began to wander. I stopped, sat back, looked over at my till, and had a bit of a revelation.

Now, ive posted the question before as to what is a full till of handsaws? That is how many, what types, what lengths, so on and so forth. The conclusion was that there is no right or wrong answer to what you really need but it kind of dawned on me that once I finish up this 12 im only one saw away from what I could consider a full till. After years of collecting saws, reading countless articles, and learning to sharpen them, im getting dangerously close to finishing up what I had started on a long while ago.

So I figured id share a little rundown of what I will have tuned, sharpened and have ready to use in my wood butchering journey.

Rip Saws:

Disston D8 thumbhole: 26” long, 4.5 ppi. 5 degrees of rake, zero fleam
Disston D8 panel saw: 22” long 8 ppi. 7 degrees rake, zero fleam

Crosscut saws:

Disston No. 12: 26” long. 10 ppi. 15 degrees rake, 25 degrees fleam
Disston No. 7 panelsaw: 22” long 10 ppi 15 degrees rake, 25 degrees fleam
Harvey Peace P45: 20” long 8 ppi (to be sharpened)

Sash Saw

Moses Eadon brass back: 16” long, hybrid filed, 12 pi, 10 degrees rake, 15 degrees fleam

Carcass Saw

Veritas: 14”, rip filed, 12 ppi (factory filing)
Veritas: 14” crosscut filed, 14 ppi (factory filing)
Disston No.4: 12” filed rip, 12 ppi, 10 degrees of rake, zero fleam

Dovetail saw

Moulson Brothers brass back: 10” long, filed rip, 8 degrees of rake, zero fleam

That’s the full run down gang. One more hurdle left to get over and every tye of saw that I could ever want or need will be at my full disposal. Then it’ll be time to figure out what to do with the dozen or so saws ill have left kicking around the shop.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty



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ToddJB

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#1 posted 06-30-2014 03:27 PM

Which one are you missing?

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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#2 posted 06-30-2014 03:43 PM

Bro, Stef, you NEED a coping saw, turning saw, stair saw, keyhole saw, compass saw, kerf saw, and at least one pit saw! LOL

As to the ‘extras’ in your shop…sharpen them and sell them, and buy some more…If you’ve found a hobby you like, and have skills in, make a lil cash, IMO.

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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7Footer

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#3 posted 06-30-2014 03:53 PM

^Right! Mitre box & saw doesn’t count since it doesn’t sit in the till correct?
We both know you’ll never stop even once your till is complete!

Good list though, give a real newb like myself and idea of what is essential and what I can keep my eyes out for. Thanks mayne!

-- Hot Damnit... Your booty like two planets, go ahead and go ham sammich -

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#4 posted 06-30-2014 03:58 PM

Todd – im just missing that harvey peace as my final saw. It needs a full tooth off rehab but its next on my list.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#5 posted 06-30-2014 04:22 PM

Got it. I read it as there was still a saw that needs to be purchased.

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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#6 posted 06-30-2014 04:36 PM

Hey, where’s the No. 99?

How many saws are enough? What is the meaning of life? Two angles on the same question. You can infinitely replace with upgrades. I want to see a Kenyon and a panther head sitting side by side in your till one day Stef.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- "Of all the tools I own, my favorite is a good sharp pocket knife." - My Dad

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#7 posted 06-30-2014 04:45 PM

^A Panther? He’d have to sell off his first born for that!

-- "Aged flatus, I heard that some one has already blown out your mortise." THE Surgeon ……………………………………. Kevin

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chrisstef

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#8 posted 06-30-2014 05:44 PM

99 is just hanging out in the till making all the boys look at her in awe. The problem with the 99 is that the tooth line is way out of flat. It takes a good 1/2” dip at the toe making it a full tooth off restore and then some. There isn’t a ton of plate left either. It may end up on the sale block honestly Bob. Kenyon and panther … yes please!

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#9 posted 06-30-2014 06:29 PM

Very cool Stef, that’s definitely a nice saw till. Any plans for a tenon saw? :)

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chrisstef

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#10 posted 06-30-2014 06:32 PM

Lol Tim. Id mostly consider that sash saw a tenon saw as well. Its got the longest and the deepest plate of the bunch but if I did happen to bump into one with say, a 4” deep plate I think I could make a slot for it ;)

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#11 posted 06-30-2014 07:05 PM

That sash saw is pretty long, how much does it have under the spine? You’re right I’m sure it would do for everything but the Roubo double tenons.

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#12 posted 06-30-2014 09:00 PM

Dude, where your pedal-powered bandsaw at? :p

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#13 posted 06-30-2014 11:10 PM

That is a collection. I would hang a shingle out, you know, in your free time. Well done.

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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Don W

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#14 posted 06-30-2014 11:19 PM

the problem with thinking you’re all done…....something always pops up and you wind up starting all over. You don’t ever get off the slippery slope!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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chrisstef

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#15 posted 06-30-2014 11:25 PM

Well thanks Don. Coming from a guy with the affliction that you have, im in deep. Theres a couple saws in there that have some sentimental value to me that i would otherwise upgrade so i guess theres a bit of justification in continuing the hunt.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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