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The Slippery Slope #6: Turds, Treasures, and Transitionals

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Blog entry by chrisstef posted 08-16-2011 01:14 AM 6055 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Yes i said turds .. thats hows this mini adventure started. My mother called me saying she had water in the basement, ill be over first thing in the mornin i tell her. Its probably just ground water, 3 inches of rain in 2 days might do that. Poking around the basement nothing seemed to be out of the ordinary until the washing machine kicked on .. hmm that puddle looks bigger .. why is there flowing water under the sink … (pull sink an inch) ... ahhh toiler paper and turd!!! I quickly search for that bag of rags … there they are … what what what is that?

A stanley bailey #5 … early one too,, low knob. Score!

It looks like its been repaired with some sort of weld, hopefully not beyond good function.

And right next to it a Sargent VBM #3411 transitional plane!!

Now i dont know much about transitional planes or sargents for that matter but i really like the look and feel of this plane.

Its funny i had a neighbor tell me that every once in a while you gotta eat a teaspoon of sh%* to get ahead. I couldnt have put it any better Joe!

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty



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WayneC

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#1 posted 08-16-2011 01:19 AM

Your #5 is a type 11 or type 12. I’m not much help on the transitional. You should be able to put both into use.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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chrisstef

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#2 posted 08-16-2011 01:20 AM

Thanks Wayne, i had a hunch it was a type 11 but ill have to do a little research on it. At what point is it an addiction? Im at 12 planes over the last year … i knew this was gonna happen lol.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#3 posted 08-16-2011 01:21 AM

It is hard to stop once you get started….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Bertha

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#4 posted 08-16-2011 01:27 AM

I like that Sargent. It’s got a weird dermatome thing going on on the lever cap. It’s in splendid shape.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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chrisstef

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#5 posted 08-16-2011 01:32 AM

Ill have to google dermatome but i liked it a lot myself .. and yes in great shape. Any idea what the wood type is?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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canadianchips

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#6 posted 08-16-2011 01:42 AM

The bottoms are generally made from Beech wood.
Don’t worry about being addicted YET. (I don’t )
I started buying one of each to compare which one works better than the other. Reading about it, but I like to know for myself.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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chrisstef

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#7 posted 08-16-2011 01:49 AM

good god chips … no addiction here honey, look at this guy! Any particularly good way to restore the trasitionals or anything i should avoid?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#8 posted 08-16-2011 02:31 AM

Addiction? Absolutely not.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#9 posted 08-16-2011 03:39 AM

Boy when you step in it. Good work! So were those your grandfathers planes?

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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#10 posted 08-16-2011 04:48 AM

I had a similar issue, but on a larger scale with less of a reward..

We bought our house almost 2 years ago and one of the upstairs toilets was all connected, minus the cold water. So I got that all hooked up and roughly 14 months later, notice a smell in the basement (the floor was poured, but backfilled somewhat from the crawlspace that was dug out. Also, this is a farmhouse from 1830).

So I went down into the basement to find approx 6” of water and liquid/solid waste. Long story short, I have two septic tanks and the only thing that went to the smaller one, was that toilet. Unfortunately, in constructing the pool deck, which passed over the drain from the house to the tank, a post had crushed the drain tiles and 14 months of infrequent solids had backed up that line—up to the point where it started flowing out of an uncapped random pipe in the basement.

8 hours of shovels, wet vacs, and a few gallons of simple green later, my dad and I had everything cleaned out, the toilet drain run to the larger septic tank, and a fire started out back to burn everything that was replaceable.

Tools found: 0.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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Don W

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#11 posted 08-16-2011 06:39 AM

but Dan, now nobody can tell you you don’r know your sh$%. I owned some rentals once. Pulled a 4” pvc riser pipe in the basement apart about 6 foot high. I could feel the stuff hitting me but couldn’t get away quick enough. I had nightmares for a week, and again, no tools found.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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chrisstef

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#12 posted 08-16-2011 02:10 PM

Crap luck i tell ya fellas.

Dan, these were indeed my grandfathers, or my great grandfathers, that story is yet to be uncovered but im sure on Sunday, with everyone over for Sunday coffee, some stories may be told.

Stretch … that stinks … i find that there is nothing more frustrating than plumbing problems. There can always be a million reasons why things wont work and until you rip it al lapart you may never know. This is the reason i stopped wrenching on cars.

Don … ever see the movie Joe Dirt? I got the pooo on me …..

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#13 posted 08-16-2011 02:53 PM

Those are some nice planes.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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canadianchips

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#14 posted 08-18-2011 02:14 PM

Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner. (This work for a living SUCKS) When I restore mine I sand all the sides lightly, removing scratches and old finish (sometimes gobs of PAINT), I clean the irons and remove ALL the rust and dirt, if the jappaning is poor I re-paint the metal. I finish the sides, front and back and top with watco oil. The bottom I only wax, I repair cracked or broken totes and knobs, shine up any brass parts. Use a finish that keeps the wood from drying out and cracking (OIL based works for me).

WHAT to avoid :
Avoid getting frustrated and tossing them into the fire pit !

Have fun and Enjoy your restorations .

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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