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more boxes #7: the EZ Mitre boxes continue

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Blog entry by Chris Cook posted 821 days ago 1364 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’m still trying my hand at the EZ Mitre boxes.

So, I took three pieces of cherry and, after joining them, I applied a thin layer of (what I think is) birch plywood to, what will be, the inside layer of the box.

I know of two good reasons to put another type of wood on the inside layer of these boxes:

1) looks good
2) run the wood grain alternate to the outside layer and it adds cross-grain strength

Here’s two more things I NOW know

1) don’t use cheap plywood on projects where aesthetics count

Actually, I already knew this rule, but I ignored it. Why? Who knows. I usually have to ignore my own rules three times before I realize I made the rule for a reason. Arrrgh! It seems that the plywood I picked up is ash or something similar that fuzzes to the moon when you sand it!

2) The most important part of doing the alternating grain trick is to ALTERNATE THE GRAIN!

I was so focused on the glue up and resulting storm of clamps that I managed to glue up with the grains in the same direction! Doh!


imperfect storm of clamps

At this point, it looks like I am about to negate both points one and two.

So I ended up with this:

here’s the fuzzy side!

So I did the cuts per procedure and that went fairly well. The ash plywood did what it does best: fuzzed and got stringy as ever.

After a lot of cleanup (mostly unsuccessful), I went to the glue-up

This turned out okay, the box looks good on the outside.

the inside needs work, it’s not apparent here, but this is not going so hot.

This will be a hinged lid, here’s a look at those

I thought I would cheat and take a look at what this might look like finished. Using my favorite image processing software, I popped the grain a little:

I’ll post the finished box soon. Thanks for looking.

C

-- Chris, “as soon as you come up with something foolproof, they come up with a better fool""



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DocSavage45

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#1 posted 821 days ago

You mentioned feeling a little frazzeled recently? I do this all the time. LOL ADHD and me!

Now I’m using Charles Neil’s new saying” Measure it three times and sneek up on it!” It’s helping. practice makes garbage…oh thats perfect. Mistakes build character.

Thanks for showing your human side.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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gfadvm

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#2 posted 821 days ago

That looks like it came out very well to me. If you hate the interior, you could always line/flock it. It would look really cool if you could get a perfect red paint job on the interior. Way cool hinges definately add to this box. I think ya done good Chris! I have trouble EVERY time I cut the top off. Any tips or secrets? I too have had trouble with birch ply fuzzing up especially when I apply an oil finish so I now avoid it.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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SPalm

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#3 posted 820 days ago

That looks like Sande plywood from here – creme color with brown streaks. It is really soft and fuzzes up like there is no tomorrow. The fuzzes will settle down though. Just an early morning thought.

That cherry looks good enough eat. Very nummy.
I like it,
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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BritBoxmaker

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#4 posted 820 days ago

Nice one, Chris. Thorough experimentation yielding practical knowledge.

I’d advise Birch ply (yes I’ve read Andy’s comment). As long as you don’t oil or apply a water based finish to it you should be able to get a good finish. Sanding sealer or Spray Acrylic are good finishes here. These (Sanding sealer, spirit based, in combination with wax) are good for the exterior as well.

Have you considered playing around with the ply layer to provide ‘instant lipping’. Its and idea I’ve been working on. PM if you’re interested.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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helluvawreck

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#5 posted 820 days ago

Well, I haven’t tried one of those yet. I sure hope mine turns out as well when I do.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Chris Cook

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#6 posted 820 days ago

Thanks for the comments. I am doing a lot of sneaking up on measurements lately and other areas are sneaking back!

The lid cut is a nervous moment for me too Andy! Most times the box looks too good to even cut! What I’ve learned about the process:

-make only a single pass
-use a backer board
-use a fine blade
-cut about 95% of the way through and use a razor to finish
-when all of this yields less than good results, run the box and lid through some light passes on the drum sander

I’m no expert at this part for sure.

Cherry is moving further up on my list.

This one is going to get sanding sealer overall. At least that’s my plan. I’ve taken a piece of scrap from the cut and I am testing finishes on it.

I am playing around with the same idea of instant lipping. I have been messing with it in sketchup to see how this might work.

thanks again

C

-- Chris, “as soon as you come up with something foolproof, they come up with a better fool""

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DocSavage45

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#7 posted 820 days ago

LOL!

Life is a journey that sometimes sucks?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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BritBoxmaker

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#8 posted 820 days ago

Just to qualify I am referring to Finnish or Baltic Birch ply.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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Chris Cook

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#9 posted 820 days ago

it’s all about the journey!

-- Chris, “as soon as you come up with something foolproof, they come up with a better fool""

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 820 days ago

I have used shellac on BB ply and it doesn’t fuzz up like the oil based finishes. I’m still trying to figure out what “sanding sealer” really is composed of. Any answers?

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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DocSavage45

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#11 posted 820 days ago

Dilluted shellac?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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