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Blog entry by canadianchips posted 03-23-2012 02:16 PM 1178 reads 0 times favorited 3 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Hello everyone. I went to a local cabinet shop in city. They moved to our area 3 years ago. I had a very good visit with the owner of the shop. He was about 45’sh years old. As we talked I mentioned I have worked at this profession for many years…..I have no journeyman papers ! He looked back at me open eyed “Neither do I or my partner.”They both ran a framing business in large city and got tired of all the hassles of getting bigger. They were not journeyman carpenters ! He explained that those papers are not quite what people make them out to be. He said he really tries to give the college students a chance, hires them on regular basis.
A LOT of them are NOT WORKING OUT WELL. He blames the college system !
I told him some kids “Have the talent” some do not !
(Don’t get me wrong, I have watched young framers, they are GOOD)
As I walked away he asked me to bring a resume to him, he wants experienced people part time !
(I blogged about a job 2 months ago with furniture shop that restores old furniture. It sounded promising, said he would phone. I have talked to him in person and ya de – ya de -ya he will call. 2 months later ….................NO CALL YET)
Today I went to my shop and started experimenting !
At one time I could take a stick and cut it in half just by “eyeballing”
I then hand planed a 45 degree angle onto a short piece of crown moulding “eyeballing only”
Last one was cut a notch 1” from end of stick by “Eyeballing”
The photo’s are results of what happened this morning.
The stick in half is out by 1/8”, the cut was not 90 degree…....
The 45 degree angle you can see daylight …..probably 44 degree
The 1” from end….missed by 1/16”........... (Damn OLD AGE…..eyesight must be going…..LOL)

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#1 posted 03-23-2012 02:25 PM

I am a “paper trained” carpenter, have been for over 35 years.

We run into a lot of people who have been in the trade for years, and have much more experience, but when it comes down to some of the details, they aren’t up to date or have the knowledge of the carpenters I have hired who have completed their apprenticeship.

I realize you are not saying this, but in my experience the only guys that say the apprenticeship program is no good are the ones that never went…

Good eye on the measurments and angles!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#2 posted 03-23-2012 04:28 PM

I was self taught in the IT field for a while before I went to school to get my degree. The education helped fill in the gaps in areas that I understood but didn’t have the full picture on. There were kids who didn’t seem to grasp the concepts but could pass the class. I believe colleges have loosened up on their grading scales (education has turned into a lucrative business and higher graduation ratios translates to higher paid attendance) but the quality of the teaching materials have stayed the same. In other words, not everyone who graduates is capable but everyone who goes to school has the potential to learn something.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#3 posted 03-25-2012 04:06 AM

Walk right in the door of that guy and say “I will work for two days for free…. If you and me don’t work out… hey no harm done!” If he likes what you can do “You are Hired!”

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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