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Blog entry by cajunpen posted 03-14-2008 09:04 PM 3914 reads 0 times favorited 54 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I’m seeing more and more projects being posted that are being offered for sale to the Forum. I personally don’t care for sales pitches here on the LJ Projects Forum – just don’t think that is what we are here to view. I enjoy simply viewing other’s work, offering advice where I can and learning from other’s creativity – not having a fellow Jock offer to sell me their work. Absolutely nothing wrong with a guy or gal selling their work – just don’t want to see it in the projects section of the Forum. I think that we do have a section here that would be appropriate.

I’ve posted this here, so as not to point a finger at anyone in particular – don’t want to create any bad feelings – just express my opinion and see if anyone agrees, or if I am being silly. I’m beginning to notice more and more of the “sales pitches” and not sure that this is the place for it. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/



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GaryK

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#1 posted 03-14-2008 09:10 PM

I have noticed the same thing, Bill.

Maybe a sales pitch section for people that might actually want to look at it.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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MrWoody

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#2 posted 03-14-2008 09:13 PM

They are getting LumberJocks advertising free.

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I'm getting a fantastic education.

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CharlieM1958

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#3 posted 03-14-2008 09:16 PM

I’ve had the same feeling as you on occasion, Bill. To give folks the benefit of the doubt, though, it is probably just a case of wanting to show their work, and then throwing in the plug while they are at it, as opposed to posting just for the sake of a sales pitch.

Ethics aside, this probably is not a good place to pitch your woodworking items, because any self-respecting LJ would rather try to make it him (or her) self. <g>

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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scottb

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#4 posted 03-14-2008 09:22 PM

Yep – save your time and energies, market to your audience, not your fellow crafters who, as most might be willing to trade. We do want to see your work, and want to help each other make the most of our hobbies – or self employment at it.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Harold

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#5 posted 03-14-2008 09:30 PM

I agree Bill, but I would even go alittle further. I have grown concerned with the business tutorials and debates that they have spawned, I just love the craft.

-- If knowledge is not shared, it is forgotten.

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johnjoiner

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#6 posted 03-14-2008 09:43 PM

I’m with you Bill.

-- johnjoiner

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cajunpen

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#7 posted 03-14-2008 10:15 PM

Well, happy to see that I’m not alone here – thought I was just being a sour grape and that was not my intention.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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Kevin

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#8 posted 03-14-2008 10:24 PM

I completely agree with the rest of you. I am not here to buy anything. Just to view and learn.

A seperate section would be nice for those interested in selling their pieces and discussing business. Maybe a seperate forumn for business discussions. It would be easier for those in the business to find other in the business and zero in on those discussions.

On the other hand, the way I look at it, if there was something posted that I just wanted to purchase I could always PM the creator and ask if it was for sale. I don’t think anyone would be offended by that. Would you?

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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Ryan Shervill

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#9 posted 03-14-2008 10:32 PM

Guys, keep in mind that some people use the gallery as their personal gallery, and link there from other sites, etc. I don’t see the harm is putting a “for sale” on your gallery items.

Google my name and you will be taken to my 2X4 entry….thats had over 80,000 hits…..I know they werent all LJ’s! If I were selling that table as opposed to donating it to charity, it would be silly of me NOT to put that it was for sale.

When I see stuff listed for sale, I just generaaly assume that it’s not intended towards me, and just look past it.

Just something to think about…...

-- Want to see me completely transform a house? Look here: http://forum.canadianwoodworking.com/showthread.php?41055

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motthunter

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#10 posted 03-14-2008 10:36 PM

I think that a link can be put to forward someone to a place where the sale is noted. If people see this as a free commerce sight, a small percentage of the sale should be donated to the site.

-- making sawdust....

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#11 posted 03-14-2008 10:38 PM

...and we do have a forum for buisness talk.

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Bob #2

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#12 posted 03-14-2008 10:40 PM

I’d kind of like to keep the forums reasonably free of commercial endeavours.
I am all for commerce myself but there is a section of this place set aside for it now.
Maybe for Jocks just starting out we could look at a “classifieds” area where they could post along with a reasonalbe sum for support of this place.
I’m not going to ask anybody to donate here unless they can afford it but if they want to sell stuff that is quite different.

Cheers

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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HallTree

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#13 posted 03-14-2008 10:40 PM

I agree Bill

-- "Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life" Solomon

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#14 posted 03-14-2008 11:05 PM

I agree with Dennis and Motthunter and Bill and most of the rest of you. I’ve been here a long time and this has just started recently. If you want to advertise you should donate for it. mike

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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Ad Marketing Guy - Bill

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#15 posted 03-14-2008 11:29 PM

I FULLY agree- I sincerely believe there should be a rule not allowing people to sell their work on this site.

We come here to enjoy project successes,
I for one learn quite a bit from some of the regulars who post. Most of these regulars offer advice that is a school unto itself – for that I am grateful.

I would hate the projects page to become a woodworkers ebay! And if there is a need to sell work then a different area should be created NOT under projects, and with out question a minimum of 10% of the sale should be given to LJ for support.

-- Bill - - Ad-Marketing Guy, Ramsey NJ

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