A new shop in the making #2: Ever closer to a plan we can use

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Blog entry by Bob #2 posted 05-10-2008 01:24 AM 1307 reads 1 time favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: The planning stages Part 2 of A new shop in the making series Part 3: moving the gardens »

I had to teach myself a bit of sketch-up to get his plan off the ground thanks to the felllas that chipped in to make the learning curve a bit shorter.
I’m no good at sketchup but I have managed to get a drawing (stick frame) that represents what I want to do with the shop.

This version of the shop comes about after trying to get the city here to approve my use of about 4 feet of their property. -No luck.
So we will build the shed at 18 feet wide and add a lean to to the side on the property line .
The lean to will house the Dust collector and a small finishing room.

If they choose I will remove (Informed sources tell me that is unlikely.)

I know there are some engineeering gaffs here but sketchup is the boss so I cant fix em just yet.
I had to accomodate a 30 foot fir tree so I needed to reduce the width to let the tree prosper.

So far so good.

I should be able to take off materials list pretty quick now.


-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#1 posted 05-10-2008 02:42 AM

I love the tree in being left in the design. I know that it was probably forced on the design, but it somehow seems appropriate for a wood working shop to have a tree in the shop. Is it possible to have a window to look at the natural state of the wood you will be working on? That would be very cool indeed.

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#2 posted 05-10-2008 03:17 AM

I’m anxious for some action!

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#3 posted 05-10-2008 03:23 AM

Looks good so far. Are you going for a vaulted ceiling or trussed to get some attic space?

How tall are your wall going to be? Can’t read the sketch.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Bob #2

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#4 posted 05-10-2008 04:13 AM

I wanted to leave that tree there as it is a nesting place for my red squirrels . I have had about 10 litters use that tree for refuge and dreys.
The windows will come once I get the lumber squared away.

Todd, I have to dig out one apple tree and move it this weekend then we get the gas company in to find the lines and I am golden by next week.

I set the walls at 10 feet internal and the pitch 4/12 should give me and overall height of ~14 feet . I am finishing with a vaulted ceiling and mounting the T8 fixtures directly to the ceiling.
With the exception of the table saw all the dust collection will be along one wall and under the floor.
The floor will be 3/4” ply double sheeted.


-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#5 posted 05-10-2008 04:19 AM


This looks like a solid plan and from your comments it appears as if you have a lot of the details worked out.

This is going to be an enjoyable series.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#6 posted 05-12-2008 12:55 AM

That looks nice Bob and a few questions/comments

Why isnt there a garage door, even a four footer is nice, makes it easy to work on lawn tractors etc.

natural light….........nothing like it and gives you views of the beautiful gardens you have

I remain skeptical of dust collection pipes under the floor. Drywall looks like #@it in no time, nice clear poplar plywood….....easy to paint/stain, pound nails in it. Albeit electrical put in conduit is more expensive initially, it sure saves time and money down the road.

not sure why you want to double up the 3/4” flooring, put in solid bridging on the joists…....tough as nails

that said….........perfect Bob

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Bob #2

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#7 posted 05-12-2008 01:18 AM

HI Roman;
All valid points.
1. Why isn’t there a garage door?
I thought double doors 36” (72+”) would be the ticket. Are you saying a man door plus a 4 footer?
I havent figured out the window yet. but you’re right about natural light. 2.I live in the crime capital of Canada so I must accomodate sunlight and still have privacy when I’m away. I’m stumped to tell the truth.
3.I think your idea with the plywood is excellent. 4. I forgot about it being too many years in the commercial “reno and rent” business.
5. Yes I’m gong conduit throughout – Not getting stuck with the lumex crap again.
6. Flooring ? what do you reccommend for joists and spacing? I was thinking 10” over 18 feet with a center brace?

7.Dust collection, I am comfortable with it under the building. We should talk if you are of a different thinking . I am flexable on this .

Any chance you could be free for a couple of weeks in July? <vbg>



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#8 posted 05-12-2008 10:28 PM


Great looking shop. Good luck getting it going.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia †

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