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Blog entry by Bobby posted 02-17-2010 03:00 PM 916 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I am attempting one of my biggest projects in a long time. My better half wants floor to ceiling bookcases for the basement. She wants them painted with white high gloss enamel paint and so I’m using mostly 3/4 plywood and a bit of pine for trims.

I’ve tried a couple of methods for the rail and style joints on the doors and have decided on pocket holes. I’ve seen other people on here complaining about how the joint can “creep” when driving in the screws. I have found a way that works flawlessy for me. I use a miter clamp. The joints butt up tightly and are virtually impossible to move. Also, the clamp doesn’t mark the wood like a regular Kreg clamp can if tightened very tight. Setup is a breeze and very fast. It sure works for me.

I was in Ottawa this past weekend and discovered that there is a Lee Valley store there. I made 3 separate visits and was like a kid in a candy shop, each time coming out with more stuff than I bought during the last visit. I came home with a bag of stuff that I just HAD to have. I was explaining to my wife how each item works and why I NEEDED it, and she would look at me as if she was interested, but I knew that in reality she didn’t have a clue about what I was talking about. All she knows is that the wall units are starting to look good.

One thing I found there and simply love are the pocket hole plugs. These things are amazing… especially since the doors are being painted. My progress is very slow but there hasn’t been any major mistakes as of yet… knock on wood… and I’m really having a blast.

—Bobby



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David Craig

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#1 posted 02-17-2010 03:11 PM

Looking forward to the result Bobby. I know the last thing your wife probably needs is a suggestion for you to pickup yet another tool ;) but if you have to do alot of pocket holes for faceframes, you might want to consider the Rockler pocket clamp. Seems a little pricey to me but it does look like it would eliminate that creep.

Good luck,

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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ratchet

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#2 posted 02-17-2010 05:18 PM

That Rockler clamp looks pretty nice. There was a shopbuilt clamp published a while back that did the same thing. Here is the web link: http://www.getwoodworking.com/news/article.asp?a=929

Look like it does the same thing only faster.

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russv

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#3 posted 02-17-2010 09:54 PM

the rockler doesn’t appear any more pricey than kreg’s clamp are. clever approach to an old problem.

russv

-- yknotwood.com: where to go because you don't want no stinking plastic!

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Bobby

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#4 posted 02-18-2010 05:00 AM

Hi Dave et all…

I really like the look of that Rockler clamp. So much so that I started to order it. But… because they have to ship it to here in Canada the “19.99” would end up costing me $42.00. I don’t think I really want to spend that much on it. Such is the problem with living here… ordering from the US ends up costing double the price that the product goes for. An example came in the mail today. I needed some guide blocks for my band saw… nothing special… not “cool blocks”... just regular ones. They were supposed to be 8 or 10 bucks each… I needed 2 of em. Total cost… $37.00. Can you imagine???

—Bobby

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#5 posted 02-18-2010 05:10 AM

That sounds like a fun project. Enjoy!

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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dlmckirdy

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#6 posted 02-18-2010 09:14 AM

I have used the pocket hole plugs several times on painted projects. I think they are too long on the cylindrical end. If I cut just under 1/4” off of them (at a right angle), when they are spread with glue and inserted, you can press them in almost flush. What is nice about them is that they are cut so that the flat surface is edge grain, not end grain cut on a bias.

-- Doug, Bakersfield, CA - I measured twice, cut it twice, and it is still too short!

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Bobby

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#7 posted 02-18-2010 02:53 PM

Hi dlmckirdy…

I really love these plugs. I never thought about cutting them a bit before putting them in. What I did was sand them almost flush with my orbital sander with 80 grit and then do what is left of them and the rest of the styles and rails with 220. It went pretty fast but your idea will make the process even quicker. I’m going to use it on the rest of my doors. Thanks!!!

I made good progress yesterday. I’ve got all of the next cabinet cut and painted. I’ll be assembling it today. It goes a lot faster once you know what you’re doing… heh…

—Bobby

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David Craig

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#8 posted 02-19-2010 03:35 AM

Forgot about the shipping in Canada Bobby. With an international site such as this, I am becoming more aware of the struggles woodworkers have on a nation by nation basis. The international stuff ships more expensively, partly because these items don’t go through post but by UPS. There are few sites that provide shipping through the local post office as an option.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Bobby

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#9 posted 02-19-2010 06:20 PM

David…

I did find a way to order the pocket hole clamp at less than half the price it would have cost me if I had it shipped here. I have a nephew who lives in Chicago so I had it sent to him and he will mail it to me via regular mail. Total cost of shipping it there… $28 as opposed to $42.00. And the $42.00 doesn’t include the sales tax that I would have had to pay to Quebec.

The other thing that I am seriously interested in is a dowel jig that I found in a post here, but for the life of me, I can’t remember it’s name. Nor can I find the post that mentioned it. I do know that it is a German company. I’m sure someone will refresh my memory. Anyway… they do not ship to Canada but they do ship to the US. But… here’s the problem… I can’t find the price on their site, nor can I find an order page there. Maybe someone can help me out with this so I can see how much the total cost would be to get one. I saw the video for this jig and almost fell out of my chair… this thing looks SWEET and is one of those tools that I figure I just HAVE to have.

—Bobby

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