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Shop Upgrades #17: Rockler Demo and Unexpected Shopping trip

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Blog entry by bkseitz posted 03-07-2016 04:06 PM 1158 reads 0 times favorited 7 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Took a break from working this weekend—cool project at my day job—to go to a series of demos/classes at my ( local? ) Rockler Store in Tukwila, WA. I guess local is in the eyes of the beholder; Its about 50 miles away. I had put a reminder in my cellphone calendar several months ago, but only had it alert me “the day of” not the prior day. Fortunately I’m an early riser. Off I went.

They had two great demos. Turning and Making Raised Panels. I was really interested in the Raised Panel class since that has been the major project in the backlog. The previous attempt I had at raised panel door almost ended in disaster; why I’ve been building a new router table.

The Raised Pane demo didn’t go as smoothly as the instructor wanted. The router bits had been reassembled differently than the standard setup he had expected, so the tenons were off and loose. That however turned out to be great for the rest of us as we got some additional instruction on adjustment and troubleshooting setups. During the demo he gave out some great tips to us novices. [e.g., to test whether your rail and stile set up is correct, a test cut on a test work piece that had the previous rail or stile cut using the other will zero out the profile. Something I didn’t think about before but good to know].

The demo was 80% how-to 20% advertising for products. It must have worked as I think everyone in the class bought at least one item covered after the demo. Then again maybe we were already in a mindset to purchase products but wanted to be sure we were buying the right stuff and get pointers on how to use it as in my case. I got the Freud 3 piece Ogee Raised Panel set (which is on sale) and a few more dust collection items.

Then went back to get the Coping Sled based upon Dave’s (Part Time Sales & Instructor/ Full Time Cabinet Maker) recommendation: “You don’t want to do end cuts without a sled” The he showed a missing finger tip.

I had planned on getting the Woodpecker Coping Sled, but the Rockler one was a good deal and figured at worst it would be a good starter sled.

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"



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CharlesA

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#1 posted 03-07-2016 04:12 PM

What’s a dead end router cut?

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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bkseitz

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#2 posted 03-07-2016 04:35 PM

@CharlesA I assume? you mean routing at the end grain.

Some of the tips I’ve seen and heard of were: cutting end grain first on a work piece and then cutting the profile with the grain second, another was clamping a sacrificial board to the end to support the edge to prevent tearout.

—However, as mentioned previously I’m just starting out on this path, so I’ve got a lot to learn.

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"

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#3 posted 03-07-2016 04:38 PM

I think I mis-read it. You wrote “end cuts” and somehow I got “dead end cuts.”

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#4 posted 03-07-2016 04:41 PM

@CharlesA ;-) It happens to all of us, a lot more than I’d care to admit too now.

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"

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#5 posted 03-07-2016 06:14 PM

Yeah, me too. Your lucky your so close for classes like that. I had to muddle thru raised panels all by my l lonesome. I used up one entire 8 foot board trying to get it set up right. I did save a finished joint as a sample. I’ve been doing that with every joint I make now. Don’t even get me started on the struggle to get half-blind rabbeted dovetails on my Leigh jig. That was a month long battle!

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#6 posted 03-07-2016 06:35 PM



Yeah, me too. Your lucky your so close for classes like that. I had to muddle thru raised panels all by my l lonesome. I used up one entire 8 foot board trying to get it set up right. I did save a finished joint as a sample. I ve been doing that with every joint I make now. Don t even get me started on the struggle to get half-blind rabbeted dovetails on my Leigh jig. That was a month long battle!

- BurlyBob

Close is a relative term….people at work think I’m nuts for being 60 miles away from work and civilization? Almost any major shopping is about 30 minute drive. I was originally a suburban and city guy; now I kind of like being out is the country so to speak.

Learning on your own. Yup touch times….I do that at work all the time…I’m the guy that is always on the bleeding edge in the group or asked to solve a problem everyone else has broken their pick on. So when I come home I use cooking and woodworking to de-stress. What that typically means is find someone who knows and learn from them: Rockler, Woodcraft, YouTube, Lumberjocks, etc.

While I volunteer my two cents on what I’ve learned—maybe someone else hasn’t picked it up from others who are way more experienced than I, because they’re not talking through novice eyes—I mainly read and watch all the great materials out there, then try my hand at it. All my projects have been fusions of the good stuff others have done with the exception of my assembly bench that I built a few years back; right after I figured out my European Style workbench was not as useful for the project work I was doing.

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"

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#7 posted 07-28-2016 01:51 AM


I got the Freud 3 piece Ogee Raised Panel set (which is on sale) and a few more dust collection items.

That cracked me up…until I realized that you meant actual dust collection, not tools that just sit and collect dust. I have a shop full of those.

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