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BIG UPDATE----SHOPMADE HELICAL CUTTERHEAD

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Blog entry by alanealane posted 03-17-2008 12:44 AM 7454 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I have completed preliminary stages of machining a custom helical cutterhead for my DeWalt 733 Planer.
The design is what I came up with from looking at other companies’ designs.
This is what I created in my CAD software.
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Here is a video of the machining process to this point… DON’T WORRY, THERE’S MORE TO COME!

This video is over 16 Minutes, but I think you’ll enjoy it.

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See my first Topic SHELIX CUTTERHEAD

-- Lane Custom Guitars and Basses



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Sawdust2

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#1 posted 03-17-2008 01:01 AM

I’m looking forward to the end product.

But take a clue from John (gyzmodyne) Watching glue dry is not a productive use of time.
There’s a reason why Norm Abram only shows how to do one of a repetitive task.

It is interesting. It’s not something I’ve seen before. I learned something and I thank you.

It’s just a little too much of the same thing for someone who only wants a cursory overview.

My $.03.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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alanealane

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#2 posted 03-17-2008 01:09 AM

You’d be surprised how much I cut out of the original footage and how much I ran the video at 2X speed. Unfortunately, that’s what it takes to cut metal—-lots of time—-much more than we woodworkers are used to.

Bear with me!! ;-D

-- Lane Custom Guitars and Basses

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#3 posted 03-17-2008 01:10 AM

Massive undertaking with such a small machine.
It looks like you have blastoff for the body.
Could you edit outthe reality for those of us with little time left? <g>

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Karson

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#4 posted 03-17-2008 01:29 AM

Looks great.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#5 posted 03-17-2008 02:04 AM

wow thats amazing. can’t wait to see the final product.

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#6 posted 03-17-2008 02:24 AM

I enjoyed it very much and cant wait to see how you finish it.

-- Frank Auge---Nichols NY----"My opinion is neither copyrighted nor trademarked, but it is price competitive."

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Woodshopfreak

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#7 posted 03-17-2008 02:32 AM

You can make your own tool parts!!!! lucky. Wish It coudl do that. Great job.

-- Tyler, Illinois

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#8 posted 03-17-2008 02:39 AM

Very interesting video. To have access to this type of equipment represents a wonderful opportunity.

Thanks for the post.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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hisparadox

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#9 posted 03-17-2008 02:39 AM

my question is will you be making these for sale to others? if so, how much, and what “specs” do you need to make them for machines other than the dewalt?

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alanealane

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#10 posted 03-17-2008 02:47 AM

TopE5, That annoying hisssssssssssssssssss you hear a misting unit on the machine. Those two nozzles aimed at the cutter are shooting atomized coolant and compressed air and keep the operation extremely cool and lubricated.

Bob#2, I understand how boring it must be to watch the same thing over and over and over and…..sorry, I got carried away, LOL. I’ve already cut the video length down by roughly 70%. That’s about the best I can do and still convey what’s going on. As far as a small machine, I might put up a picture of the Haas VF0 I’m running this part in. It sure isn’t small….20 (Twenty) horsepower, 8000 RPM, 20 tool capacity, and over 200 inches-per-minute rapid feed rates. By the way, Whaddya mean by “It looks like you have blastoff for the body?”

Thanks all for viewing. I’ll keep you updated.

-- Lane Custom Guitars and Basses

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GaryK

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#11 posted 03-17-2008 04:02 AM

Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Jim Boehm

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#12 posted 03-17-2008 04:05 AM

This looks great! Way to go, designing something like this Alan! I can’t wait to see it when it is done.

-- "Knowledge is King! It is never too late to learn something new." - Jim

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#13 posted 03-17-2008 10:25 AM

This is going to be a very interesting project to follow. I’ll take one for my Delta planer :-))

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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alanealane

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#14 posted 03-17-2008 01:36 PM

Sorry guys!! I’m not intent on making these for others right now. I chose to do this project for my own enjoyment (and for a good grade in my CNC classes). I also was hoping to avoid the $800+ that companies like Byrd Tool charge for a 12” cutterhead—-besides, they don’t even make a cutterhead for my DeWalt—-so if I wanted one, I had to do the dirty work.

I would unfortunately have to charge someone else at least the same price as other companies do for a custom helical head because of all the time I spent working on this. Yes this is my first one, and I wouldn’t make some of the same mistakes next time, but I don’t think I would do it for profit unless I actually owned all the proper machinery. I will have spent nearly $220 on carbide inserts and screws when this is over, and the remainder of the value (which lies in my time and effort) far exceeds, in my opinion the $800 or so that Byrd would charge for a similar piece of tooling.

It’s just a one-of-a-kind piece that I sure hope will throw some chips in the near future.

We woodworkers know how valuable time is when making a project, whether for ourselves or for a customer—-and that always drives the asking price up.

If you REALLY want a custom cutterhead and have $800-1000 extra cash laying around, Please don’t hesitate to contact www.byrdtool.com OR www.hermance.com

They both have great products.

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE KIND WORDS!
—-keep snoring! (Sawing logs, that is.)

-- Lane Custom Guitars and Basses

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tooldad

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#15 posted 04-10-2008 06:03 AM

You can make my life easier and make one for the DW 735 also. I would love to have that 20” at home, but the $2500 price tag is a little too much for home right down. I know you previously commented this is just for you, but I might be interested in an identical head because I think my wife’s grandfather has the same Dewalt planer as you. I know it is dewalt, and it is not the 735. Let me know if either making one for the 735 is possible (first choice) or making a duplicate for a 733 is an option. I am in St Louis area. Tooldad

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