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This photo is from 1899.
Eric in Florida.
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#1 posted 05-02-2012 01:01 PM
I do think it’s a shame that a lot of schools have to cut wood shop because they can’t afford the insurance.
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#2 posted 05-02-2012 01:15 PM
I just love the old photos like that. The bench is great as well.
-- ~Julie~ followyourheartwoodworking.blogspot.ca
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#3 posted 05-02-2012 01:18 PM
I think that guy up front is Joe Lyddon LOL
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#4 posted 05-02-2012 01:21 PM
I’m sure those little guys could have told me a thing or two about hand tools and sharpening techniques. I am particularly aware of these basic skills after recently introducing them to my developing repertoire.
-- Paul, Clinton, NC
Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)
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#5 posted 05-02-2012 01:24 PM
LOL, Jim! ;) Yes, I wish we could have this again – without the lawsuits! Kinda makes you wonder how we all made it this far with all our limbs and digits in tact? Guess we just had to pay attention! The workbench is awesome! :)
-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"
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#6 posted 05-02-2012 01:40 PM
It is real problem. The insurance is a must but unaffordable by the schools themself. So it must be funded by the goverment. Now days, with those power tools and machineries and the age of the students, the risk for the insurance companies, is even more seriouse and bigger than ever. It needs to be addressed.
-- Sam Shakouri / CREATING WONDERS WITH WOOD.....Sydney,Australia....
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#7 posted 05-02-2012 01:51 PM
The Instructor looks like a very tolerant fellow, keen on the children’s self esteem… :)If you can, take a look at textbooks from that time for other subjects (Mathematics, English…)Few College graduates of today would be able to pass the old courses meant for Grade School!! Great Pic Eric!
-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.
#8 posted 05-02-2012 01:52 PM
Jim, which Joe Lyddon do you mean, the politician or the lumberjock?
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#9 posted 05-02-2012 02:18 PM
How did you get a picture of my shop class! That’s me in the back making funny faces at the camera!
-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.
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#10 posted 05-02-2012 02:25 PM
I am a General Building Contractor. Since the schools have closed down their ‘Mechanical Arts’ programs, I’ve discovered a major problem. Basic knowledge. I cannot hire a young person with even the most basic of knowledge or skill.
Most [99%] of the kids coming out of [California ] high school do not even know basic measurements. They cannot read a ruler/tape measurer. They have no pride in their mechanical skills because they have had none taught to them. They have received no accolades for their mechanical accomplishment because the schools only teach ‘How to get into College’.
As young adults, they have become conditioned to the ‘I Want What I Want, and I Want It Now’. This makes it difficult to train them.
Therefore, I am pushing local school districts to maintain these types of programs. I have a support group working with me, helping to keep several school districts’ programs intact.
It is not difficult. We have met with the directors of the programs, pledging support along the lines of providing mentoring and project supplies. The project supplies are those that would normally be purchased by the programs. I have been very successful obtaining wood [lumber] from local sources. One of our group, has committed to provide glue and similar supplies. Another local business man fills the school bins with screws and nails each year.
I would like to see more members of LJs provide local support to their own schools.
-- Rustfever, Central California
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#11 posted 05-02-2012 03:49 PM
Maybe schools could afford it if they went back to that classroom. Doesn’t look like there’s a big risk of limb loss there. Potential for lots of stitches but that’s all. Be interesting to see what could result if schools taught with the the equipment in the above photo, it’d be teaching disciple and self control along with basic mechanics and artistic ability. Less product but more skill, also teach the kids they don’t have to be able to afford the big equipment at home but can get started on their own with very little.
-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse
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#12 posted 05-02-2012 06:07 PM
I was in highschool in the late 90’s. We still had a woodworking class, i regret everyday not having interest in it back then.
We can thank lawyers for all the cost going away with this. Also, good point above about the only focus is getting into college.
-- Ev in Framingham, MA
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#13 posted 05-02-2012 07:40 PM
I have to agree with derosa on this one. I feel like there is a much smaller chance of an accident happening in a shop with no power tools. It would be great for our children to be taught a little patience.
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#14 posted 05-02-2012 07:56 PM
I´m glad we still have those classes in the primeryschools here in Denmark :-)unfortunaly it have come to the point only one year is obliq, for the children both boys and girls has it the rest of the time they can have it … its a class they can choose if they can scimm it in the scheduleyah right … we all know how children is when it comes to exstra hours in the school here it has been so that they want eveyone to continue on highschool and then to the universityright ….. are they crazy …. we can´t maintain the high level of living standard if there is no one to produce things the only way we can ceep it is if the country can export finished products and to make those you need workers with a high degree of skills beside having a high degree of understanding how manuel work is done so the tecnical drawings can be transformed to a finished product
sorry for my rambling I just in general think that politicans can´t be of the human race
we basicly start out with using a rasp and sandpaper making small things in woodbeside the layouttools they add one new skill for every new project they have to make so ( as I remember it ) was through the hole toolbox with handtools over a 3 year periodemaking everything from a planboard to advanced joinery ,bowls , models of sailships those that took the exstra classes also got able to make furniture as well
thanks for sharing the picture …. enjoyd it :-)
have a great dayDennis
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#15 posted 05-02-2012 08:39 PM
Is that you in the nickers, Eric ;-)
-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire
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