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Handplane Restoration #10: Stanley Bailey #3 Type 10 After

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Blog entry by WayneC posted 2654 days ago 6029 reads 1 time favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 9: Stanley Bailey #3 Type 10 Clean-up Part 10 of Handplane Restoration series Part 11: Stanley #4 Type 3/4? »

I finished up the restoration work on the #3 I have been working on. Things have been going slow due to work and family commitments. I thought I would get the blog entry done this morning before heading out to the woodworking show. I’m taking my daughter and her boyfriend. It should be a lot of fun.

I also picked up a couple of items yesterday. My mother-in-law as been wanting a workbench for a while and I found one on craigslist yesterday. I love craigslist. The photos of the plane were take on her new bench. I’ll get to be it’s caretaker until she comes up from Arizona in June to get it.

Ronnie's Bench

On ebay I was able to get a Stanley 5 1/4 Junior Jack Plane. From the photos it appears to be new in the box.

Stanley Bailey 5 1/4 Junior Jack Plane

Now all I need are the $20 #1 and #2 to complete my set of bench planes. Good luck, right?

To finish the plane, I needed to clean the hardware. I used my lathe with a drill chuck to hold the parts. I used abrasive blocks and a 320 grit abrasive foam pad to clean up every thing except the brass parts. To clean the brass nuts, I put them in the shorter handle post and mounted them in the lathe. I used cloth and semi-chrome polish to shine them up. Here are the results.

Parts after cleaning

The next issue I needed to deal with was the broken handle. The break was very clean so I used PVA. I used a woodworking clamp to hold the handle. It worked well. Below are some photos.

Handle in Clamp

Close up of handle in clamp

Look Ma no breaks

Next I applied schallac to the jappaning and to the blued components (metal that holds frog adjustmet screw and back of chip breaker) and reassembled. I still need to sharpen and tune the plane. I’ll get you all a few photos to show how it cuts. This is how the plane turned out.

Before

Before

After

Front

Side

Rear

Next in line is a #4. Here is a preview…

Next in line

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov



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Jeff

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#1 posted 2654 days ago

Awesome work, Wanye. It makes we want to comb ebay again for some that are in need of rehabbing. Good luck with the #4 and congrats on the 5 1/4!

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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Wooder

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#2 posted 2654 days ago

Wayne, ya done good! A great restore for sure.

-- Jimmy

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WayneC

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#3 posted 2650 days ago

Thanks. Still waiting on the 5 1/4. The seller does not take paypal and I had to send a check via snailmail.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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David

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#4 posted 2642 days ago

Wayne -

Revisting this post. Beautiful job! I appreciate the detailed report on the 5 1/4.

I am wondering if that bench will have trouble leaving your shop?! I am jealous . . .

Good luck on the $20 #1 and #2 to complete your set of bench planes!

-- http://foldingrule.blogspot.com

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WayneC

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#5 posted 2642 days ago

LOL. I’m not holding my breath. But thanks.

The cheapest #2 I have seen in a while has been $170 and perhaps $700 for a #1. I have seen #1s in good shape sell for over $1500 on ebay. You never know….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Chipper

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#6 posted 2474 days ago

Wayne,

Really nice. A little attention goes long way.

After the glue repair on the handle, what else did you do to it? It looks perfect…

-- Steve (Plano, TX)

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Paul

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#7 posted 2474 days ago

Your only chance for a #1 or #2 for $20 is at a yard sale nowadays.

Been looking for almost 30 years and haven’t stumbled onto that yard sale yet.

And then, I know some of you will think I’m crazy, I struggle with giving someone $20 for something they obviously don’t know is pretty valuable.

-- Paul, Texas

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WayneC

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#8 posted 2474 days ago

Thanks Chipper. I used shellac on the handles and the jappaning. I also rub Renaissance Wax on the planes.

I would be real surprised to run across a #1 or #2 these days. I keep hoping to find one in an antique store or a flea market. I broke down and went the Lie-Nielson route.

Yes, it does provide an ethical issue.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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#9 posted 2474 days ago

Beautiful work once again! I want bigger pictures! Maybe next time?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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Chipper

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#10 posted 2471 days ago

Wayne,

I was working on my #4 from ebay that arrived late last week. A comment and a couple of quesitons:

1) I used citric acid in the concentration you suggested. It took a couple of hours before I saw a difference. A lot of hand work with the scouring pad. It worked, just too longer than your efforts. I obtained by acid from a home brewer outfit, so I would guess it would have the same level of acidity.

2) Do you scuff up the tote and front handle before applying the shellac? I want to get to the same polished appearance that you achieved.

3) Do you put the sole in the acid bath? I didn’t but thought about it.

4) I am using Boshield T-9, which happens to have a wax component. Happen to know of any greater benefit using Renaissance Wax?

5) Someone (maybe you) wrote of a base set of planes. What Stanley’s make a the “base set”? I’m trying for the working set that was suggested elsewhere (60 1/2, #4, #5, #7, #92), but I am curious about what makes a base set.

6) Electrolysis – the citric acid removes material, while electrolysis can put on material. I have some pitting on the sole of my Dunlop that would require a lot more metal to come off the sole in order to fix. Could electrolysis be used to fix this (paint/wax the areas not needing material)? How long might it take to actually make a difference? Is the electrolysis actually just being used to boil the rust off (moving metal the wrong way)?

-- Steve (Plano, TX)

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WayneC

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#11 posted 2471 days ago

Thanks Dorje, if I get time I will adjust the photo size.

Steve

1) I used the scouring pad every 20 minutes to a half hour while it was soaking. I think you just need to experiment with the level you use.

2) I used steel wool and denatured alcohol to clean it up.

3) You can if needed. I did not use Acid on this particiular plane.

4) I have not tried T-9. I like the wax and do all parts.

5) In this blog I was putting together a full set of Stanley bench planes. Everything from 1-8 plus the 1/2 and 1/4 sizes. For a base set I would recommend a Low angle and standard angle block plane, Smooting Plane, Jack Plane, and a Jointer Plane. Add a shoulder plane if your doing Mortice and Tennon work.

6) I belive you may be contrasting electroplating with electrolysis. I belive electrolysis just removes rust without removing any iron. I would lap the sole to remove the pitting. And if the key areas of the bottom are flat (toe, heel and around the mouth), I would not worry about the pitting.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Chipper

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#12 posted 2470 days ago

Thanks! Wayne. This helps!

-- Steve (Plano, TX)

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WayneC

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#13 posted 2470 days ago

Your most welcome.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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HokieMojo

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#14 posted 2134 days ago

Just wanted to say thanks for this blog. I ordered a couple planes on ebay yesterday and I plan to use your blog as a reference guide to clean them up. I know you posted this a while ago, but your work to do this is still helping me out almost 2 yrs later. Thanks again.

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Grumpy

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#15 posted 2134 days ago

WAYNE, GOOD RESTORATION. I THINK THE BROKEN HANDLE IS A COMMON PROBLEM. MINE ALSO. FIXED ONCE BEFORE BUT GONE AGAIN.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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