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Playing Around with Carving #9: Just Kicking Around today

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Blog entry by WayneC posted 08-14-2011 06:02 AM 5244 reads 1 time favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I roughed out another spoon today. I was trying a different handle shape to get a feel for it. Playing with some curves. Also, I’m looking for good ways get a better finish on the spoon bowl. I tried sanding some. I need to get better at making smooth cuts to reduce the work required to finish the spoons.

I am thinking of getting some curved knives. That or I need a wider/flatter bent neck gouge. I am thinking of a knife simlar to one of the curved ones from Pinewood Forge.

I’m trying to work out the process before I switch to some cherry that I resawed from firewood a couple of years back.

I made a run to Woodcraft today, but they did not have a gouge with a profile that I thought would work. I did get a small carvers drawknife to play with. Hoping it will help speed up shaping of handles. I tried it out and it is definately going to take a little getting used to. I found it easy to take too deep a cut.

I’ve started working out the details of making a shave pony in my head. Tomorrow I will probably put the pencil to paper and draw out some plans. It should be pretty easy to build.

Also, I saw this pattern maker’s vice. I think this would be a useful item to have around. Might end up in the mail to me in a weak moment…. lol

http://www.garrettwade.com/patternmakers-vise/p/36A01.03/

Finally, I have a friend who would like a wooden pestle to smash garlic. Any suggestions for a hard wood that would be a good food safe choice for this. I was thinking of cherry as one possibility. I saw some Osage orange at Woodcraft that I liked, but I was not sure it is food safe. Suggestions would be appreciated.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov



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#1 posted 08-14-2011 06:46 AM

hmmm, more tools. when will it stop? You know you probably could live without that vise. How am I doing? Am I sounding at all convincing. Hang on, time to place an Ebay bid.

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#2 posted 08-14-2011 07:00 AM

pretty soon you might have cutlery for the whole gang eh!!

Looks like your having fun

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#3 posted 08-14-2011 07:18 AM

Yeah, the chance of buying the vice is pretty low. I need to focus more on getting some projects done. Need to earn some new tools. However, if I am going to be productive on the spoons, I’m thinking a curved knife may improve the shaping of the bowls.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 08-14-2011 02:47 PM

A curved knife is fantastic for the bowls. I have one of Dell Stubbs’ curved knives, and can’t praise it highly enough. I may go back and get a left-hander – the other two corners of the bowl can be a pain with just a right-hand edge.

Of course, if you really want to speed up the handles, there’s always a hatchet. Don’t laugh, they can be much more precise than people think. I have one of the Gransfors Bruks Swedish carving axes, and it’s a dream to use. They’ve gone up some in price, but I’d buy it all over again. Well worth the money!

-- Robert - Visit my woodworking blog: http://littlegoodpieces.wordpress.com

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#5 posted 08-14-2011 03:59 PM

Wayne: Woodcraft has a vise like the one that you posted. I picked up one a few months ago.

Some nice carving.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#6 posted 08-14-2011 05:12 PM

Robert, thanks for the advise on the knives. I have seen people talk about the Stubbs knives I will have to check them out. I’ve seen the carving axes as well as the carpenter’s axes and been intrigued. I’m not sure I am ready to lay out the cash yet. But an ax would probably be a more likely purchase than the vice at this point.

Karson, how do you like the vice? Used it much?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#7 posted 08-14-2011 07:15 PM

Dell’s Pinewood Forge knives are some of the finest steel I’ve ever put in my hand. Also, they come absolutely and totally ready to use right out of the box – some of the sharpest things I’ve ever seen. Also, I have yet to need to hone mine – just strop. Nothing I have holds an edge like that.

The Gransfors axe is a single-bevel, and also comes ready to use. It’s one of those tools that gives you that “Oh Yeah” smile when you pick it up – you don’t even have to swing it. There’s no doubt that the guy that designed it knew his stuff. Few tools fit my hand as perfectly as that axe. Maybe I should do a review…

-- Robert - Visit my woodworking blog: http://littlegoodpieces.wordpress.com

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#8 posted 08-14-2011 07:29 PM

Robert, It sounds like if the carving axe is single bevel, it could perform the work of a cabinet makers axe which is single bevel as well. Above I said carpenter’s axe but intended cabinet maker’s axe. Please do the review.

I just came in from carving another spoon. Nothing special, just need to keep cutting on stuff to build my skill. The patio is kind of junked up at the moment, a bunch of stuff migrated home from my daughter’s last move. Funny how that happens. But this is where I am currently carving. It is real nice in the mornings before it gets hot.

These are the spoons so far. I really need to solve the problem of the rough interior of the bowls. Perhaps, I will order a new knife this week.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#9 posted 08-14-2011 08:06 PM

I use gouges, then a dremel flap wheel.

-- the last of Barret's Privateers...

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#10 posted 08-14-2011 08:14 PM

Dell’s hook knife is perfect for that. I usually follow up with a gooseneck scraper for final fairing together of the cuts.

Have you seen the “Carving Swedish Woodenware” video from Country Workshop? It’s the one done by Jogge Sundqvist (Willi’s son), and covers wooden bowl and spoon carving. Really good stuff.

-- Robert - Visit my woodworking blog: http://littlegoodpieces.wordpress.com

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#11 posted 08-14-2011 09:11 PM

Thanks Harry, I have dremel stuff and may already have a flap sander in with the stuff (I have a 100 item costco accessory set or similar) and will check that out.

Robert, I had not thought of a gooseneck scraper. I should have some in my shop that have been sitting unused since I bought them. I will have to try it out. I have not seen the video will check it out.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#12 posted 08-14-2011 09:48 PM

I asked a question about Osage Orange as a food safe wood. I saw discussions on google that leaned either way. So, the jury is still out on that one. I did find a vote for apple and maple as usable spoon wood. He mentions cottonwood in the video as a good choice as well. There are lots of cottonwood trees in the area. I will have to look around some.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#13 posted 08-15-2011 01:13 AM

I’m still thinking about getting a hooked blade knife to address this issue. Getting close to the resistance is futile point. :)

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#14 posted 08-15-2011 01:17 AM

Beautiful spoons.
Yes you will need a spoon carving knife: http://www.djarv.se/djarvenglish/skedknivar.asp
Or carving gauges like this: http://treewright.blogspot.com/2008/07/sharp-tools-no-dust.html
I just bought a gauge and forgot it on the parkinglot, called next day and ofcourse someone had taken it, so I will have to go again one day… (Need I call my self idiot). The worst part was that it was in a box of clay things my daughter and I made at a Viking museeum so she was really sad (not for the tool).
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#15 posted 08-15-2011 01:29 AM

Sorry to hear that you lost the clay items. Need to make some more…

I like the carving knives, they look pretty nice, but with shipping would probably cost too much to ship over here. The pine wood forge ones look similar and are about the same price.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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