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Handplane Restoration #20: Sliding down the slippery slope - Part 1

Blog entry by WayneC posted 830 days ago 1224 reads 1 time favorited 23 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I started this blog to restore a set of Bailey style bench planes for use in my shop. The more I have worked with handplanes, the more diverse my interests have become. I have been interested in Plough Planes for a while after reading about them on Patrick's Blood and Gore site and on Alf's Cornish Workshop web site. Alf has a lot of historical information on her web site as well as a user’s guide that shows how to tune and use a combination plane.

In addition to this, I read an entry in Chris Schwartz's blog about some new planes coming from Lee-Valley this fall. Lee Valley is releasing a new Plough plane based on the Record 044. The Record 044 is one of several planes that are unique to Record. Others are the 040, 043 and the T5.

All of this motivated me to purchase a Record 044 on ebay. This plane is used to cut dados of various sizes.

Side view of a Record 044

Front view

Front view

It comes with 7 blades and 2 sets of bars for the fence

Accessories

In my hand for size

Side view

With a #4 bench plane

Record 044 and a Lie-Nielson #4

I also won a Record 043 and am waiting for it to arrive in the mail. One of these days I will get a Stanley 45 and take another step down the slippery slope.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov


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Bob Babcock

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posted 830 days ago

You’re going to have me joining you soon. That looks sweet.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Obi

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posted 830 days ago

and to think it probably started with a cheap block plane.

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

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Jeff

997 posts in 986 days


posted 830 days ago

I know what you mean. I spent a lot of time on Blood and Gore and was constantly referring to it when I was bidding on planes. The ones that fascinate me are the router (aka rebate) planes. Since I was a kid, It has boggled my mind that you can put a deep square cut in wood with a hand plane. I understand it now but have not taken the plunge on one of those yet.

What are your thoughts on those? By the way, nice score. You should have that in tip top before you know it with you techniques. How are you going to deal with the finish on this one?

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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mot

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posted 830 days ago

I think there’s a pill for that.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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WayneC

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posted 830 days ago

Obi, I did start with a cheap block planes. And it mauled the wood horribly. It is amazing how much difference a little knowledge and a sharp blade.

Jeff, I do have a router plane but have not played with it much yet. I would like to get a 271 as well. It is the little brother of this plane.

Stanley #71 router plane

Tom, please send me a year’s supply of those pills. I could use them.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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alf

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posted 829 days ago

Hi Wayne, good to see someone else suffer on this Slope as well as me! Don’t be fooled by Chris’ blog – there are lots of features of the Veritas plough that no Record employee would recognise. Hey, that means you need both, right? (I’ve got to stop doing that to people…) Enjoy the 044; right up until the 043 arrives and you fall for it just like everyone else does… ;)

Cheers, Alf

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Thos. Angle

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posted 829 days ago

AAah heck, Wayne, yer jus’ havin’ too much fun.

-- Thos. Angle

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WayneC

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posted 829 days ago

Thanks Alf, I’m looking forward to seeing the Veritas plough. Are you going to review it offically when it comes out? I was thinking of buying one but thought I would try the originals first before I made that commitment. I’m hoping the 43 is there by the time I get home from this business trip.

Thos. having fun is my goal. : ^ )

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Jeff

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posted 828 days ago

Very nice router Wanye. Is that post-restoration or the condition when you got it? Whatever the case, she’s a beaut!

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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WayneC

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posted 828 days ago

Thanks Jeff. That is the condition it was in when I purchased it.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 828 days ago

I love these posts – that’s all I have to say.

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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WayneC

5969 posts in 990 days


posted 827 days ago

Thanks Dorje. Have you got a Plough plane in your arsonel yet?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 826 days ago

No – but I’ll be sure to put one on the tool list! (That I carry with me virtually all the time).

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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Dorje

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posted 529 days ago

A plough remains near the top of the list, though I can’t seem to move on it…

How has your 044 worked out?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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WayneC

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posted 529 days ago

It works pretty well. I would like to compare it to the Veritas version. My understanding is that Veritas was based on this plane.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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GaryK

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posted 529 days ago

Man, please don’t get me started on planes! I have enough thing to keep me busy.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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Dorje

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posted 529 days ago

Wayne – I recently gave the Veritas a go at the last woodworign show, but since it was my first experience trying a plough, I was hesitant to just go for it. I’m interested in using a 044…

Cyber Tool Swap?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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WayneC

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posted 529 days ago

CTS works. Also there are a number or Record 044s (and 043s) for sale on UK eBay. The shipping is a bit high, but still much less that than a new Veritas.

Gary, you know you need just one more (you always do)

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 528 days ago

I’ll have to take a peek…Thanks

Also, another Q…do all 044s use the two guide rods or do some only use one?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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WayneC

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posted 528 days ago

Need to have 2. I belive the Record 040 is the only one with a single rod.

You can buy 7mm tool steel and make replacement rods or ones with different lenghts.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 527 days ago

Great – thanks -

I looked on Uk ebay and asked a seller the cost of shipping to the US…he quoted me 36pounds…$70

I don’t have a sense of what the actual planes are going for yet though…so can’t tell what total cost might be…

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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WayneC

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posted 527 days ago

36 pounds is unreal. I just purchased a Record 043 and the shipping was 9 pounds….$18 Ask a few other sellers. The 044s should not be too bad. I looked at completed auctions and it appeared to be 20-35 pounds for a complete one in good shape. One went for about 58 in mint condition with a box.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 527 days ago

Good to know – I’ve got a couple more emails out requesting shipping costs…

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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