My son and I went to the local flea market looking for a rusty block plane to try out the evapo rust. I was hoping to find a 102 or 103 for a buck or two. I wanted to try it before starting on the Stanley 112. It is too nice of a plane for it to be used for the trial.
I was not able to find any good candiates for testing the evapo-rust. Anyway, I ended up walking out having only spent $2 on an old back saw. Cest ‘la vie.
We stopped at a local antique store on the way home. I found a 22” wooden Fore plane and decided to bring it home to restore.
Manufacture: Cox and Luckman (1839 – 1914) Birmingham England with a Robert Sorby Iron – Kangaroo Logo
Size: 22 1/4 long x 3 1/2 wide
Owner: J. A. Morgan – stamped all over the plane (even in the blade bed)
Cost: $27
Condition: Good. Mouth may be too wide and might need to be patched. As it stands it would not be able to take a fine shaving. There is a hairline crack in the front part of the handle but the handle appears to be quite solid.
Note the crack in the forward part of the handle.
With a Stanley Fore plane (#6)
Have a good weekend.
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Tim Dahn
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#1 posted 12-06-2009 01:52 AM
Looks like a nice plane, fairly decent shape.
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jockmike2
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#2 posted 12-06-2009 02:43 AM
Very old, what’s it worth Wayne? I saw some like these up by Houghton Lake, MI. Should I grab them the next time I’m up there if they are in decent shape?
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WayneC
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#3 posted 12-06-2009 03:14 AM
Thanks Tim.
Mike, I’m not real comfortable with pricing them. This one appeared to be reasonable and in a condition that I could restore it and use it. I was looking for a Jointer, jack and smoother as well. Eventually, I would like to get some good usable profiling planes as well. Personally, I try to avoid buying things I do not intend to use. Would you use the planes you saw?
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#4 posted 12-06-2009 03:49 AM
Wayne,
I have used evaporust on some rusty table saw parts. The main thing is, at least to me, it doesnt leave the old patina that electrolysis does. The metal comes out nice and clean, no rust, but has this flat, almost etched apperance. If you are wanting the old patina evaporust is not the choice. If you dont really care about the apperance and just want the rust gone it does a great job. It will also leave any paint that is present, where elecrtolysis will strip to bare metal.
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#5 posted 12-06-2009 03:53 AM
I great looking trip.
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WayneC
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#6 posted 12-06-2009 04:10 AM
Thanks Ken, this is why I want to try it out. I may have to go check a different flea market tomorrow.
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#7 posted 12-06-2009 07:29 AM
Nice aquire!
Go with the evaporust. I’ve tried a lot of things, electrolysis and various chemicals from the automotive store. Evaporust does the best job and will not damage the metal hands down, no contest.
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#8 posted 12-06-2009 07:46 AM
All in all, it appears that you had a great shopping trip. I have a question. Does the wood plane do as good a job as the metal planes?
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WayneC
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#9 posted 12-06-2009 07:55 AM
I only have one wood plane I have been using with any regularity (wooden miter plane made by lumberjock Phil Edwards). It works well. I am wanting to exparament with wooden planes. The are supposed to be lighter and easier to push than metal planes. Other LJs may have more experience or opinions…
Below is a photo of my other wooden plane…
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jockmike2
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#10 posted 12-06-2009 03:07 PM
So you buy them to use and not to collect and sell? Some of the ones I’ve seen up north, would be usable. Others, not. Thanks.
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WayneC
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#11 posted 12-06-2009 05:00 PM
Yes, I am trying to avoid collecting for the sake of collecting and I do not sell anything at this point. One of these days I will have to make it back to Michigan to poke around. I lived in Marquette for close to 4 years when I was younger and had family in the Detroit area for a long time. They moved to California about 5 years ago and so I have not had any reason to go back.
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#12 posted 12-07-2009 03:12 AM
Just a cautionary tale about those block planes and Evaporust. I am doing a lot of old tools and so I put the top of the block plane which was rusty in the jar. This is the part you hold on to. The next day – no rust, no japaning. Anyone know how to fix this? Otherwise the evaporust has done its weight in gold returning drawers full of chesels, plane blades, chippers, and carving tools back to a place where they can be sharpened.
Scottishrose
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#13 posted 12-07-2009 03:32 AM
Was the top jappanned or just painted? If painted, I am guessing you could repaint it. Have any photos?
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#14 posted 12-07-2009 09:49 PM
That Wooden Plane is a beauty.
Have you tried Denio’s in Roseville? I have heard that there is a big flea market in the Bay area that has tools.
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#15 posted 12-07-2009 10:31 PM
Yes Rob, Denio’s is where I struck out at last weekend. I had not heard of one in the bay area that does. I went to the San Jose area flea markets a while back and it was mostly new stuff / junk. I have not tried the one in Oakland by the ball park. Do you know of any others or the one specificaly with tools.
The plane came from the Antique Trove. There were a couple of Restoration worthy stanleys in there if anyone in the local area is interested. 60 1/2, 3c Type 11 and a #4 that looked pretty good. There were a number of others as well That did not stick out.
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