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Handplane Restoration #27: Struck out at the flea market

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Blog entry by WayneC posted 1728 days ago 3741 reads 1 time favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 26: Interesting middle of the road approach Part 27 of Handplane Restoration series Part 28: New Restoration Candidate - Stanley #62 part 1 »

My son and I went to the local flea market looking for a rusty block plane to try out the evapo rust. I was hoping to find a 102 or 103 for a buck or two. I wanted to try it before starting on the Stanley 112. It is too nice of a plane for it to be used for the trial.

I was not able to find any good candiates for testing the evapo-rust. Anyway, I ended up walking out having only spent $2 on an old back saw. Cest ‘la vie.

Back saw

We stopped at a local antique store on the way home. I found a 22” wooden Fore plane and decided to bring it home to restore.

Manufacture: Cox and Luckman (1839 – 1914) Birmingham England with a Robert Sorby Iron – Kangaroo Logo

Size: 22 1/4 long x 3 1/2 wide

Owner: J. A. Morgan – stamped all over the plane (even in the blade bed)

Cost: $27

Condition: Good. Mouth may be too wide and might need to be patched. As it stands it would not be able to take a fine shaving. There is a hairline crack in the front part of the handle but the handle appears to be quite solid.

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Note the crack in the forward part of the handle.

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With a Stanley Fore plane (#6)

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Have a good weekend.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov



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Tim Dahn

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#1 posted 1728 days ago

Looks like a nice plane, fairly decent shape.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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jockmike2

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#2 posted 1728 days ago

Very old, what’s it worth Wayne? I saw some like these up by Houghton Lake, MI. Should I grab them the next time I’m up there if they are in decent shape?

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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WayneC

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#3 posted 1728 days ago

Thanks Tim.

Mike, I’m not real comfortable with pricing them. This one appeared to be reasonable and in a condition that I could restore it and use it. I was looking for a Jointer, jack and smoother as well. Eventually, I would like to get some good usable profiling planes as well. Personally, I try to avoid buying things I do not intend to use. Would you use the planes you saw?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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MedicKen

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#4 posted 1728 days ago

Wayne,
I have used evaporust on some rusty table saw parts. The main thing is, at least to me, it doesnt leave the old patina that electrolysis does. The metal comes out nice and clean, no rust, but has this flat, almost etched apperance. If you are wanting the old patina evaporust is not the choice. If you dont really care about the apperance and just want the rust gone it does a great job. It will also leave any paint that is present, where elecrtolysis will strip to bare metal.

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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Karson

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#5 posted 1728 days ago

I great looking trip.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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WayneC

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#6 posted 1728 days ago

Thanks Ken, this is why I want to try it out. I may have to go check a different flea market tomorrow.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Craftsman on the lake

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#7 posted 1728 days ago

Nice aquire!

Go with the evaporust. I’ve tried a lot of things, electrolysis and various chemicals from the automotive store. Evaporust does the best job and will not damage the metal hands down, no contest.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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Stoneturner

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#8 posted 1728 days ago

All in all, it appears that you had a great shopping trip. I have a question. Does the wood plane do as good a job as the metal planes?

-- Wood Turning is communicating with the wood silently.

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WayneC

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#9 posted 1728 days ago

I only have one wood plane I have been using with any regularity (wooden miter plane made by lumberjock Phil Edwards). It works well. I am wanting to exparament with wooden planes. The are supposed to be lighter and easier to push than metal planes. Other LJs may have more experience or opinions…

Below is a photo of my other wooden plane…

Phillip Edwards Miter plane

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#10 posted 1727 days ago

So you buy them to use and not to collect and sell? Some of the ones I’ve seen up north, would be usable. Others, not. Thanks.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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WayneC

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#11 posted 1727 days ago

Yes, I am trying to avoid collecting for the sake of collecting and I do not sell anything at this point. One of these days I will have to make it back to Michigan to poke around. I lived in Marquette for close to 4 years when I was younger and had family in the Detroit area for a long time. They moved to California about 5 years ago and so I have not had any reason to go back.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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scottishrose

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#12 posted 1727 days ago

Just a cautionary tale about those block planes and Evaporust. I am doing a lot of old tools and so I put the top of the block plane which was rusty in the jar. This is the part you hold on to. The next day – no rust, no japaning. Anyone know how to fix this? Otherwise the evaporust has done its weight in gold returning drawers full of chesels, plane blades, chippers, and carving tools back to a place where they can be sharpened.
Scottishrose

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WayneC

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#13 posted 1727 days ago

Was the top jappanned or just painted? If painted, I am guessing you could repaint it. Have any photos?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Rob Drown

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#14 posted 1726 days ago

That Wooden Plane is a beauty.

Have you tried Denio’s in Roseville? I have heard that there is a big flea market in the Bay area that has tools.

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真

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WayneC

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#15 posted 1726 days ago

Yes Rob, Denio’s is where I struck out at last weekend. I had not heard of one in the bay area that does. I went to the San Jose area flea markets a while back and it was mostly new stuff / junk. I have not tried the one in Oakland by the ball park. Do you know of any others or the one specificaly with tools.

The plane came from the Antique Trove. There were a couple of Restoration worthy stanleys in there if anyone in the local area is interested. 60 1/2, 3c Type 11 and a #4 that looked pretty good. There were a number of others as well That did not stick out.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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