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Blog entry by TheHarr posted 11-30-2010 03:07 AM 2494 reads 1 time favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Here are pictures of me making an arch panel. You can almost taste the beer on that hot day. I don’t know why camers tend to make me look 50 pounds heavier than I really am.

-- The wood is good.



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Rob_n_Wood

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#1 posted 11-30-2010 04:01 AM

I love the photo shoot …......did you make the vacuum pump and by the way I think I do taste the beer

-- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson

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RS Woodworks

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#2 posted 11-30-2010 04:32 AM

Excellent pictorial. Thanks very much for blogging it. I have a question, and this may be a dumb question, but my experience with veneering is very limited. I don’t have a vacuum press. If i veneered a thin panel like that first, could I still bend it afterwards to shape? or would the veneer just crack?

Also, what kind of glue do you use? And it looks like you only apply it to one of the surfaces? The substrate?

Ryan

-- I restore the finest vintage tools! If you need a nice plane, saw, marking tool or brace, please let me know!

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TJ65

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#3 posted 11-30-2010 07:39 AM

Yea sure – ” I don’t know why camers tend to make me look 50 pounds heavier than I really am.” !!
Thats what my husband says too!!!! :-)
Thanks for the blogs, very interesting. I love the way the boxes turn out.

-- Theresa, https://sites.google.com/site/tmj65treasure/

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TheHarr

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#4 posted 11-30-2010 11:53 PM

Reply to RobnWood, Yea I was drinking a very cold Coors banquet beer. It can’t be beat on a hot day.
I did make the vacuume pump from an old air compressor tank and from instructions from joewood worker’s web site. I bought the parts there, as well. He’re the link.

http://www.joewoodworker.com/policies.htm

-- The wood is good.

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TheHarr

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#5 posted 12-01-2010 12:20 AM

Reply to Ryan. The glue is very hard and stiff when it dries, it will definately crack.
I used ULTRA CAT precatalized glue. It’s messy to work with, but you learn how to
handle it over time. The water and mixing instructions are very critical. You can get
the glue instructions from my source
http://www.joewoodworker.com/policies.htm

If you haven’t been to this site, check it out.

-- The wood is good.

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SPalm

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#6 posted 12-01-2010 03:42 AM

Nice blog.

So… I see in picture #9 that you have a pencil line on the substrate that is lined up with the form, I need to do that. And then in picture #12 you are whacking something with an upholstery hammer. What is it that you are whacking?

I have not done much pressing, but I have done some. I just use Tightbond glue. What is the advantage to the glue you are using?

Thanks,
Steve

Edit: I should have read the last post where you answered these questions.
http://lumberjocks.com/TheHarr/blog/19632
You are whacking a small tack to keep the veneer in place. Very smart. Thanks.

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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Jack Barnhill

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#7 posted 12-01-2010 04:31 AM

Thanks again for sharing. The explanation and pictures will help a lot when I get around to veneering.

-- Best regards, Jack -- I may not be good, but I'm slow -- www.BarnhillWoodworks.com

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shipwright

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#8 posted 12-01-2010 05:25 AM

Nice work Harr, My Vacuum press is via Joe the Woodworker as well and I use it almost every day. I have no idea how I lived without it. I’ve had it for about six years now.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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TheHarr

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#9 posted 12-01-2010 05:59 AM

Reply to SPalm. I’m nailing a 5/8” brad on the center line tick mark to hold the laminate together and keep it aligned on the form. For the glue, I use Tight Bond II for all my gluing, but NOT for veneer or vacumme forming. Read up of Joewoodworkers web site about the glue. The ULTRA-CAT glue has served me well for the arch panels.

One other thing, don’t believe the manufacture’s information about press time. It takes me @ 3 days to do a panel. 1 day to flatten the veneer, 1 day on the press and 1 day on the drying form. It was raining when I was drying my panels so it took two days to dry. The drying form is my latest revelation for preventing the arch from distorting during drying. This also helps prevent/control cracks in the veneer. You are wondering into the dark arts of vacumme forming, it took me a long time to figgure out what caused a problem and to find a solution. I have finally refined my technique to the point where it is reliable and repeatable. Good luck and let me know how you progress.

-- The wood is good.

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