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Another day, another nickle #2: Right Tilt Table Saw Blues

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Blog entry by Thos. Angle posted 09-20-2007 02:25 PM 1106 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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A couple years ago I bought a brand new Jet table saw. It is really great except it is right tilt. At the time I thought it really didn’t matter, just change a few ways of working and it would be fine. I mean, there are thousands of them out there. It is dandy to not have to change the scale when I change the blade. I moved the miter gauge to the right side of the blade. I learned to jump the fence over the blade to cut 45’s. I built sleds and fixed the tenon jig for right handed cuts. I guess I always suspected that that right handed cut would come around to bite me in the butt some day but really thought I’d gotten around it.

Well, yesterday was the day. I was building the face frame for a corner kitchen cabinet. You know , the one with the lazy susan and the angle across the front. The cut list called for stiles that were 30 inchs long and 2 1/4 wide ripped at a 45 degree angle. I always build with a 1/4 inch over on face frame. I built the face frame and held it up to the cabinet. Even allowing for the plywood which was not a full 3/4 inch, I had way too much over hang. When I measured the stiles, they came out at 2 1/2 inch!! OOPS! No biggy, measure 2 1/4 and mark a 45. set the saw up and re-rip them. No dice! Not enough room on the left side of the blade. I clamped a piece of 1/2 inch plywood on the rip fence and attempted to go under the blade a little at a time, no good either. I also tried to use the 45 bit in the router table, nope. I built another face frame and that one can join the other boo-boo’s in the shop which include half of a full carved saddle seat that grew another size while I stamped it, a drawer going the wrong way and assorted other fun things to look at. I tend to nail these mis-comboobleations on the wall as a warning to any more of them that come around. sort of like hanging dead coyotes on the fence as a warning. It doesn’t work with the coyotes either.

Tom

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon



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Bob #2

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#1 posted 09-20-2007 02:37 PM

How high did you have the blade set?
I am trying to visualize why you could not re run the stock with a sacrificial fence?

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#2 posted 09-20-2007 02:39 PM

the wall of honour or is that humour? :)

gotta love “learning opportunities”

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#3 posted 09-20-2007 02:43 PM

Bob,
The edge was so sharp that I couldn’t get it to run straight. It would go under the ply and bind on the blade.
These corners are the first cabinet I set in the run and the face frames have to be pretty accurate or I wind up handplaning to get it square so the next one can screw to the frame.
Tom

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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#4 posted 09-20-2007 02:50 PM

Tom,

Sorry to hear of your misfortunes in woodworking. I’m sure I speak for the rest of the L J’s by saying that we’ve never made any mistakes… ;^D

-- Tom, Surfside Beach, SC - Romans 8:28

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mot

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#5 posted 09-20-2007 03:33 PM

Beveled sled with fence? MDF carrying board and some clamps? 1/4” hardboard carrying board with tail hook to grab the tablesaw table and eleveate the mitre 1/4” to grab the fence?

I have a right tilt saw and have the same problem. That’s when my Festool TS55 and my MFT1080 gets fired up

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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#6 posted 09-20-2007 03:35 PM

I’ve got a special alter (burn pile) to sacrifice such projects to the gods of woodworking.

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#7 posted 09-20-2007 03:42 PM

Gosh dang, Tom! You hit on it!! A sled that runs in the left hand miter slot and clamps and let the darn thing hang over th edge and…..................

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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Hawgnutz

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#8 posted 09-20-2007 04:25 PM

I hate it when things just don’t wanna fit, too! I like your wall of fame. I stopped hanging coyotes cause it only drew their hungry cousins to the free meal…LOL I hope your mistakes don’t draw others!

God Bless,
Hawg

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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#9 posted 09-20-2007 04:37 PM

Good one Tom(MOT), I was getting to that. <g>

I deliberately built my sled out to 23” to accomodate doors.

Thomas, , another reason to hang on to offcuts of MDF.
Grab a few of those mini Destaco clamps . They make jigs a pice of cake.
p.s. there is a guy with a circular saw alignement jig on U-Tube that may be on to something hand too.
It would sure deal with the situation Thomas had – with the proper blade.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#10 posted 09-20-2007 08:23 PM

Talking about right tilt saws. I got my table saw very early on from Craigslist, didn’t know a thing about them. It’s some 12” contractor type thing but with a big cast iron top and a Vega fence. Anyway I always had issues getting it to a specific angle so just left it at 90, and used other tools to cut bevels/miters. I’d always assumed it was a left tilt, but lo and behold after getting my Wixey angle finder I adjusted it for the first time in years and found out that it’s actually a right tilt, who’d a thunk!

-- I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso

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Zuki

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#11 posted 09-20-2007 11:24 PM

“mis-comboobleations ” . . . I like that word. Gonna use it next time I screw up.

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#12 posted 09-22-2007 12:29 AM

I have a Jet right tilt saw also. I built a aux fence that clamps to my fence and pivots, so I can cut other angles when the need arises I thing I got the idea out of an old issue of WOOD. I see if I can hunt that issue up or dig out the jig and take a picture of it. I don’t use it that often.

-- Joey~~Sabina, Ohio http://sleepydogwoodworking.blogspot.com/

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