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Blog entry by Surfside posted 11-19-2012 10:33 PM 4156 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

“I don’t have tons of sense of humor but I’ll try to discuss band saw and saw blades , with a little twist, with a little fun but with a very helpful tips and information.
Buying or choosing decision for band saw and saw blades is a really tough one. What we all normally do is run to different forum sites ,ask here, ask there, post here and post there. Don’t deny it. We all do that. Maybe
because we need indeed someone’s else opinions. We want to hear their suggestions and what kind of band saw they have and their experiences with the band saw they own. And in choosing saw blades, we don’t need a SAW doctor at all, that’s a very silly idea. Why just call directly to the company and ask what they can suggest in your cutting application, that easy. Why make things complicated. If you’re not comfortable , ask your friend or just go to FORUM sites. I know right, forums are helping a lot. Alright,so, after getting all the information and hearing recommendations, we then end up purchasing the what we think is the best band saw and perfect saw blade. ( Believe me, there’s no perfect saw blade) .
Next thing will happen.. Guess what..Here we go again. FORUM sites. We encounter problems with the band saw and saw blade , why is it like this, how is this stuff works and so many questions coming up ..Oh wait, you are maybe thinking right now that I hate forum sites. No, of course not, I like forum sites. Ay no, I love forums sites. I visit a lot of forum sites and I think I asked questions like hundreds already and I am still looking forward posting some questions on some forum sites. I prolly not facebook or tweet a lot but I do hang out around with these machinist, woodworkers online. Where are we? Oh yea , so we ask random questions online like How to install this, how to adjust this stuff, Did you encounter like this also , please help me!, my blades broke, WHY? and sometimes, we post some photos. I remember someone post his photo with his finger wounded because of carelessness. That was really gross. My main point here is , we ask questions because we want to know more things about our band saw machine and get more knowledge so that in the future, we can use what we got or what we learn on the forum sites. ASK first before doing anything. We all know that band saw machines are a no joke. We need to respect what it can do.

Did you try asking to forum site and when you get the answers, you’ll realize that the problem is just a piece of cake and you’ll feel a little foolish afterwards and just laugh about it now. Funny thing is also about it is the answer is so easy to do and still you’re not getting it. And how come this http://pinterest.com/pin/185492078373539444/ popped up in my computer and this is just so stupidly hilarious.

Anyways, did you know that there are several tooth style for saw blades? (never even thought of that). These are Regular Tooth Style, Skip Tooth Style, Sabre Tooth Style, Variable Tooth Pitch Style and Triple Chip Tooth Style. The common thing about regular, skip and sabre tooth style is all the tooth shapes are the same but they differ in the shape of the gullet. The regular tooth pattern of Variable Tooth Pitch Style is broken up to reduce noise; there is less vibration and chatter; one blade is suitable for a wider range of cutting needs; the tooth pattern is repeated throughout the band; and the tooth shape changes within the pattern. And Triple Chip Tooth Style has carbide tipped for cutting high nickel alloys and exotic steels;triple Chip teeth are ground to provide a good side clearance; designed for high production applications where a good smooth surface finish is needed.

We all know that the most versatile power tool we can have in our shop is band saw machine. It can be used for basic cuts or even patterned cuts or complicated designs. Band saws are used for wood cutting and metal cutting. And did I mention that band saw cuts meat and vegetables? Oh!, That must be a different one. I believe everyone knows Alexander Graham Bell. He was an inventor. Obviously, he didn’t make the band saw and not Mark Zuckerberg as well, this dude makes a lot of money because of Facebook. It was really William Newberry invented the band saw in 1808,but early metal bands broke easily due to primitive welding techniques. As technology advanced, stronger methods for creating band saw blades were achieved.

I guess that is all for now. I hope you learned something and HAVE FUN CUTTING! “

-This is not my blog. A friend on Facebook post this and this has come to my attention. I ask him that I will post this to a forum site and he said YES :)
Credits for Dennis Morgan. Thanks Dennis.

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"



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MJCD

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#1 posted 11-20-2012 12:00 AM

Surfside:

One of my many backgrounds is the food processing industry – what they call ‘kill’ plants to ‘further processed’ plants – and you do now want to know what they use bandsaws for!

Thanks for sharing. One of the attributes of the information age – Marshall McLuhan’s ‘Global Village’ – is that there is too much of it; and we navigate around the advertising; the quacks who really don’t know what they’re talking about; and the experts who know the 25 different ways to tension a blade, correct for ‘drift’, and resaw. Sometimes … you just want one way – and only one way – that works.

MJCD

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#2 posted 11-20-2012 12:08 AM

Not is the band saw one of the versatile and useful saws, it’s gotta be the most frustrating and particular wood working inventions ever. This is the power tool in my shop that gets fussed over the most.

-- - Terry

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#3 posted 11-20-2012 02:02 AM

I have three band saws and they all work perfectly. Why? Because I am the only one who uses them. Once they are set up, they stay true. Good high quality is the way to go if one does not want to be frustrated.
BTW, I mainly use the big saw with a carbide blade. I can go from resawing to glueup straight away. Saves a lot of time on veneer work and bent laminations.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#4 posted 11-20-2012 02:09 AM

John – a question.

I’ll be picking-up a Hammer later this month – this is my first (I hope last) large BS – 4hp, about 17”. My thought is to purchase two blades at the start – a 1/2” Lenox Carbide for rips, M&T, general work; and a 1/4” bi-metal for kerf work. I know that later I’ll have to get a 3/4” or 1” for resaw – these would be carbide, as well.

Having said this, do you any thoughts on this?

Thanks, MJCD

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#5 posted 11-20-2012 02:51 AM

MJCD,

First of all, congrats on your new purchase. Funny, I just bought an older Felder combination machine today. I was going to go separates but this one came up and I couldn’t refuse the deal. Now I’ll have 2 Felder combos in the shop.
Back to the band saw. You should be able to do some serious resaw work with the Lenox trimaster carbide blade as long as it has few teeth and deep gullets. What type of resaw work do you plan on doing? Do not use a carbide toothed blade for cutting any green wood. Won’t work.You’ll have a machine full of stringy wood fibers clogging up everything. I do not think you will need a 3/4” or wider blade. One of the problems putting a wider blade on smaller wheeled band saw is they tend to break often. I believe you will have plenty of success with a 1/2” blade. Proper tuning of the saw and tension are the key factors along with having a saw whose frame will not flex under tension. This is a common problem with light framed saws. They just do not have the spring strength and/or frame stiffness.

I crank my Lenox Trimaster 1.5 teeth per inch blade to 28,000 PSI . Seems like a lot but it is on a 24” Italian commercial saw. I will check with the Felder guys on the FOG and see what they recommend for your saw.

Good luck and have fun.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#6 posted 11-20-2012 12:39 PM

John:

Thanks. I’ve been looking at Felder for about a year, and was close to purchasing their K700 & AD741 this past month – their Fall Open House, in Delaware.

The resaw use is two-fold – 1) I’ve been planing-down both 4/4 and 5/4 when needed in smaller thicknesses. The Hammer should be able to take the majority of the excess, with the planer limited to final thicknessing. 2) The nearby Park allows locals to clear some storm-damaged trees – my intent was to resaw these in 5/4 & 4/4 boards – I may need a Plan B for these.

The Hammer is a step-up from my Delta 14”, but not in the same class as the FB (Felder) series – I’d be sleeping outside for a decade, if I were to break the news on a FB600/640 purchase. However, I do seem to be in no-man’s land with the saw not being strong enough to handle a fully-tensioned 3/4” blade – I’ve heard this recently from several fronts.

Thanks, again; and Surfside, I didn’t mean to hijack your post.
MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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#7 posted 11-20-2012 03:00 PM

John:

I saw your post on the FOG – Thanks, much – I had posted a similar question to the FOG last week or two weeks ago, and did not receive a response – so I turned to Lumberjocks.

Again, Thanks,
MJCD

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#8 posted 11-20-2012 04:46 PM

MJCD
Did you know that….......
For resaw, mostly carbon blades are used but different blade manufacturers have different resaw blades; simonds has the red streak blade, lenox has theirs too – im not sure what the name is but what I use is hard back carbon blades Haltbar 201 Series .
The blade dimensions would depend on the saw that you are using. Different band saw models take different sizes of blades. For wood working, they are mostly using vertical bandsaws which can take different widths ranging from 1/8 of an inch up to 3/4 inch or 1 inch. And as far as I know, we use 3/4 inch blade for resaw. But it really depends on what works best .. 3/4 inch blades may work for some but will not work for others.

www.bandsawblog.com

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#9 posted 11-20-2012 04:47 PM

PS

“Thanks, again; and Surfside, I didn’t mean to hijack your post.”

MJCD – It’s fine my friend. :)

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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