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Blue Collar Woodworking #14: Maybe the greatest way man has ever devised to cut box/finger joints...

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« Part 13: Pins vs Tails and the 2 handled dovetail saw! Part 14 of Blue Collar Woodworking series Part 15: A Stumpy Short: An Incra LS for $100? Oh yah, baby! »

In the latest episode of Blue Collar Woodworking we make a micro-adjustable, multi-feature box joint machine that just might kill the dovetail forever. And then Stumpy tells the farmers where to stick it.

This box joint machine has a lead screw advance and a template option, smooth, non binding sliding carriage, and a quick release so you don’t have to crank it all the way back. Plus, it will handle the biggest of jobs, and the best part is, you can build it for CHEAP.

One feature I forgot to add in the video is that you can use this to make unique joints with varying finger widths without swapping templates back and forth. And, it offers the best of both worlds- the easy adjustabillity of a lead screw driven system AND the option of using fixed templates for when you just don;t want to turn the crank!

Enjoy…

More videos and plans for the projects we do are at Stumpynubs.com!

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com



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DIYaholic

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#1 posted 766 days ago

Stumpy,
Another GREAT video!!!

I hate to tell you though, you are going to have to make another Box/finger joint jig. The first jig is just a stepping stone so that you can build a box/finger joint jig using box/finger joint joinery!!!

Oh man, I got butter from the popcorn all over my keyboard.

8398487t5ytgivf8de988ij0i12345_)(*bft…........Opps, i had to wipe down my keyboard.

Thanks for the video, jig & making 10-1/2 minutes of my life infotaining!!!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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Dave Price

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#2 posted 766 days ago

nice jig Stumpy, the template on the front is a very nice touch.

-- Dave Price , Roswell New Mexico

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Bob Kollman

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#3 posted 766 days ago

That is a fantastic useful and efficient box joint jig!!!!

Love your music too….:)

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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grizzman

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#4 posted 766 days ago

good show stumpy..really nice finger joint jig…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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GrandpaLen

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#5 posted 766 days ago

Very industrious and duo-practical.

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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Kenny

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#6 posted 766 days ago

Good thinking yet again Mr. Nubs! I like that better than Matthias Wandel’s box joint jig for sure! The quick-release and the template are some good ideas!

You and I have a lot of the same work-shop habits, ie: making a lot of our own jigs, fixtures and machines that are normally just bought!

Still though, I gotta go with my single most useful jig for the box joints too, my faithful Incra positioner.
Yeah, I know it ain’t cheap, but that one jig will do everything that can be done on a router table with a fence, can do more dovetail variations than the best template jigs and with a lot less invested in templates, and it will do any kind of box-joint you can imagine, be it even spaced or variable.

You just gotta get one Stumpy. I know it’s a big expense, and being rather poor myself, I felt it in my wallet for a long time when I bought mine, but I’ve never regretted it once, not the slightest.

Good job on the jig Stumpy, and keep up the good work!

Now, you gotta build your own Incra positioner!

-- Kenny

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Joe Lyddon

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#7 posted 766 days ago

Stumpy,

Your approach, using the crank to move the Horiz. Sled reminds me of Lynn’s Jig…
Are you familiar with it?

(NOTE: Scroll down to get to main content in the following links)
Lynn's Jig
More pictures...
Plans Clarified

I like your use of the fixed Template to move it! COOL approach!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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Gabe C.

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#8 posted 766 days ago

Yyyyeeeeeesssssss, it’s here!!!

Another great episode (Darn you, slow internet!)
So this is one of those things that I need to seriously consider building. Would there, perhaps, be plans available to download from the Stumpy Store?
It’s either that, or I watch this video as many times as it takes for MY thick skull to absorb all these crazy ideas that you have put before us, into my tiny brain.
Looking forward to the next episode! Thanks for posting!

-- If I could just get this whole "Time/Money" problem figured out...

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#9 posted 766 days ago

Well done Stumpy, nice jig and great video

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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StumpyNubs

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#10 posted 766 days ago

Kenny- I bought an Incra positioner last week, actually. In truth, it’s the Pinnacle edition for Woodcraft. It came with the fence, but not the sliding attachment for box joints, ect. I may make one and try it out some time.

I tend to prefer separate machines for separate uses. It’s nice to just grab the box joint machine, or dovetail machine, slap it on top of the saw and go, rather than setting something up on the router, etc.

I adapted my Incra positioner to be used with my table saw fence. I did a segment about it for this week’s show, but it had to be cut out to save time. I may put it in next weekend’s show. I really like it, it gives me the features of the Incra lead screw fence system, but doesn’t take up room on the table saw wings.

I plan on making adapters to use it on other machines, like the band saw, drill press, etc. I did a blog on it when I was still working out the details on the table saw adapter. since finished the design.)

As for making my own Incra Positioner… I came up with a design a while back. Rex and others have also chatted with me on their ideas. Problem is that lead screw technology is patented. So it’s illegal to even make it for your own use. :(

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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StumpyNubs

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#11 posted 766 days ago

Gabe: Yes, it's in the Stumpy Store right now for ten bucks. I think it’s a pretty good deal!

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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StumpyNubs

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#12 posted 766 days ago

Joe- That looks like a great design. The only problem I have with it, and every other one I’ve seen, is the difficulty of keeping everything aligned when wood is sliding across wood. The Woodgears jig uses wooden tracks. (I built one a year ago). The Lynn jig has a wooden carriage sliding across a wooden base. All of this requires the parts to fit loosely or else they bind. (Although Matthias did address that with his wedge shaped tracks, but it still binds more often that I’d like- at least the one I built does) That compromises accuracy, in my opinion.

My setup uses accu-ride bearing drawer slides. They never bind, and never wobble.

I also added a quick release feature which is a first (as far as I know) in any lead screw driven jig. I think that is essential to convenient operation. And finally, I added a template option to use when you want to cut a LOT of the exact same joint. It is even faster than using the lead screw advance.

I have been very vocal on LJ’s about how much I think Matthias from Woodgears is a genius. But I like my design a lot better for the reasons I stated above.

Thanks for the comment!

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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boxcarmarty

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#13 posted 766 days ago

Ok Stumper, You hooked me on this one. I’ll buy one of these just as soon as I sell a couple of my neighbors chickens after dark…..

-- My mind is like lighting, one brilliant flash, then its gone.....

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boxcarmarty

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#14 posted 766 days ago

Stumpy, Check your link on the Stumpy store above. I’m getting a three arm sweater and I already have one of those…..

-- My mind is like lighting, one brilliant flash, then its gone.....

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StumpyNubs

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#15 posted 766 days ago

Fixed.

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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