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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 09-02-2014 03:12 PM 2374 reads 0 times favorited 111 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Getting ready for work this morning, HGTV was on the tube. Kitchen renovation underway and a load bearing wall was going to be re-worked, so a temp wall was being built. Well, it must have been an upscale neighborhood because a gent comes by and asks the worker cutting 2×4s with a chopsaw in the driveway to keep it down, his newborn was trying to nap.

The worker didn’t know what to do. It never occurred to him there was a way to cut 2×4s without electricity, so the work halted for over an hour until the crew came up with a cordless circ saw that would work in the house. They also had to construct some dust prevention measures in house and, in doing so, added additional delay.

Not snarky, not hand tool snobbery, but he could have used one of these:

I’m guessing he didn’t have one in the truck even if he did think of it. What you think? What home projects you do that use both hand and power tools?

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --



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palaswood

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#1 posted 09-02-2014 03:16 PM

Never even crossed his mind Smitty, Im almost sure of it… The exact reason ive bought nothing but vintage hand tools in the last 8 months and havent turned on my table saw in 6. Cause when the aliens land and blast us all with EMP, im still gonna be woodworkin all the livelong day till the foot soldiers march into town to enslave us as worker drones

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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theoldfart

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#2 posted 09-02-2014 03:24 PM

Smitty, where’s the on button? How do you plug it in? Can I get instructions from my “Saws for Dummy’s” website?

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Jamie Speirs

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#3 posted 09-02-2014 03:41 PM

Is that a kick start one?

Jamie :)

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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ToddJB

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#4 posted 09-02-2014 03:42 PM

Working onsite (not in your shop) is always a bit a challenge to make sure you have every tool you will need for the expected potential problems you might encounter. I would not have expected a complaining neighbor to halt all power tools, so I, most likely, would not have packed a handsaw either. Though it would be likely that a rusty one I picked up at a garage sale on the way to the site would be in the back of the truck.

I would have likely had a power miter saw, corded circ saw, battery sawzall with a slew of blade options, and a gents handsaw (that one stays in the tool bucket).

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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Don W

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#5 posted 09-02-2014 04:21 PM

I’ll admit its been 20 years since I left the carpentry trade, but my tool box always had hand tools in it, and certainly a handsaw or 3. If you’ve ever had to climb to the top of a building to make a quick cut, you’d learn to pack them for every trip.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#6 posted 09-02-2014 04:22 PM

Good point on packing for potential problems. I’d wonder too if they had packed it, they’re be sufficient skill on hand to cut straight lines with it. This was rough carpentry though, so I’d sure believe so.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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Don W

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#7 posted 09-02-2014 04:27 PM

There are just to many times when the hand tools are just quicker then unpacking the lead cord (finding one long enough) finding a spot to plug in, dragging it to the spot, using it, then packing it all back up.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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terryR

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#8 posted 09-02-2014 04:43 PM

What a sad story…bet it happens a hundred times a week somewhere!

Even sadder…IF they had a handsaw, it would probably be a Buck Bros.

For the cost of the fancy cordless circular saw, they could have a Disston No.12 to show off! Strongly EMP resistant, and an awesome re-sale value compared to a cordless blob of plastic…

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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tsangell

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#9 posted 09-02-2014 04:51 PM

Speed and convenience can land you on either side of the plugged/unplugged divide. But I have found it hard to make an argument for safety that goes against the manual option. Because of this, it troubles me that people are completely unaware of the possibility. They think they have no alternative to doing something dangerous.

You want to cut a piece of wood quickly, quietly, cheaply, and also safely? Let me introduce you to what you are looking for: A Handsaw.

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JayT

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#10 posted 09-02-2014 04:57 PM

Cognitive dissonance, for sure.

Some people just cannot adapt, plus they were never shown any way to cut a 2×4 except a miter saw. Even a fairly inexpensive induction hardened tooth saw, such as the Sharptooth series, would make quick work of that little task. If they needed to make sure it was straight, a $10 plastic miter box would do wonders.

Good tradespeople have several ways to do any task in their pocket.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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stefang

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#11 posted 09-02-2014 05:19 PM

That looks good Smitty, but where is the motor located?

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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BTimmons

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#12 posted 09-02-2014 05:47 PM

Reminds me of not one, but two stories.

A friend of mine wanted me to refinish a table top. The old top coat, probably a lacquer, was all chipped and worn. He brought it by my place and I sized it up. The original finish was pretty dinged up, but about 80% of it was still there. He figured I’d need to use some funky chemical stripper to get the remaining finish off. I said, “Watch this” and grabbed my card scraper. 10 minutes and zero toxic fumes later, I had it down to perfectly bare wood.

Another time, my parents were having some cabinet or trim work installed at their house. There was a piece somewhere that was just a hair too thick and the guy couldn’t figure out how to fix it on the spot. My mom goes to my dad’s work area in the garage and brings the guy a hand plane, and says, “Here, this is my husband’s, you can use this.”

The contractor looked at it for a few seconds and said, “What is that?”

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#13 posted 09-02-2014 06:02 PM


The contractor looked at it for a few seconds and said, “What is that?”

Why does that not surprise me? Perhaps because of the overwhelming number of posts on ebay (for example) that describe planes in terms of “antique” or “wonderful for display.” Even worse on etsy. Then there are friends that stop by and ask, ‘Do you actually know how to use those?’

Good stories, BT, thanks.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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ToddJB

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#14 posted 09-02-2014 06:12 PM

I bet there’s not a hand saw on the Starship Enterprise… just saying ;)

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#15 posted 09-02-2014 06:33 PM

You wouldn’t bet Bones had one as the ‘old country doctor,’ or that Scotty might not have had one?

Now Pickard, yeah, there’s no way…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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