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Tool Chest Refurb #20: A Piece of the Puzzle Arrives

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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 08-17-2014 06:48 PM 1181 reads 0 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Hello, and wecome back to this blog series! Installment #20 deals not with a modification to the actual structure of the chest, but with a change in contents that improved functionality.

One of the items I’m convinced needs to be in the tool chest is a full-sized framing square. You know what I’m talking about, as there are thousands of these tools out there, and likely several in every shop across America. Now that’s not to say we all know how to actually use the devise for laying out jack and valley rafters, bird’s mouth cuts, etc., but that’s not the point. It’s a cool tool and deserves our respect (and a place in the tool chest). I had a problem putting a framing square in the chest, though… the only way I could squirrel it away was by laying it flat on the floor of the chest, along the front and one side. You can see it in this picture.

Not the easiest thing to get out, should I ever need to do some framing. All three sliders had to come out, along with the #50 box and the vertical saw till. And if that weren’t enough of a reason for seeking a better solution, by having the square under the aforementioned till, the top edge was raised 1/8”, blocking the top slider from moving forward an additional couple inches. This was not by design. I did thin the base of the saw till originally, but didn’t want to go too far with it and lived with the reduced accessibility of the middle and bottom sliders.

Enter the solution: a Standard T.D. 101 “Take Down” square.

Many variations out there on the same concept: make a framing square in two pieces, with a way of locking them together when needed. It was an idea that appealed to me and my specific situation, and the search ended last week thanks to the ‘bay. Here’s the T.D. in it’s user-made scabbard, in the main compartment of the chest.

The saw till dropped just enough to allow the top slider to move all the way to the front wall of chest now. Huzzah!

Nothing earth-shaking, then, just an improvement I wanted to put out there in case others suffer at the hands of a non-take-down framing square. As always, thanks for looking.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive



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stefang

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#1 posted 08-17-2014 07:02 PM

Great solution Smitty. I would just leave mine at the bottom since I rarely use it.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#2 posted 08-17-2014 07:08 PM

Where it was, I never used it.

It’s a slow day in the shop when a framing square gets it’s own post, but it is Sunday… :-)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#3 posted 08-17-2014 08:20 PM

yea, but it’s not just any framing square!!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#4 posted 08-17-2014 10:43 PM

Sweet square Smitty! Also very cool to get a peek inside the old chest.

I have an old carpenter’s chest that was made about 1920. This is how the carpenter solved the square problem. There is a groove cut out so the lid can shut.

The guy was the head carpenter at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver back then. Lots of amazing woodwork in that place.

-- "When and if the day comes a lion is on my roof, I am hiring a realtor." ShaneA

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#5 posted 08-17-2014 10:50 PM

Oh my, that solution is also an invitation to slice a shin bone, I’m thinking…

One of these days I’m going to pick a small project and try to build it using only tools that are within the chest. It’ll be a cool exercise to see if I’ve got it stocked w/ the ‘essentials.’ In the meantime, I’m only a poser that believes it’s complete.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#6 posted 08-18-2014 02:27 AM

Haha! Shin bone slicer for sure!

-- "When and if the day comes a lion is on my roof, I am hiring a realtor." ShaneA

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#7 posted 08-18-2014 10:55 AM

Smitty, that would mean shoot boards, mitre boxes and the like have to live in there too! Need a second chest under the first and a step ladder.

-- "Aged flatus, I heard that some one has already blown out your mortise." THE Surgeon ……………………………………. Kevin

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#8 posted 08-18-2014 10:56 AM

Walden, if you were short like Red, that solution would end your love life. :-)

-- "Aged flatus, I heard that some one has already blown out your mortise." THE Surgeon ……………………………………. Kevin

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#9 posted 08-18-2014 11:37 AM

Kevin, i do have the collapsible Acme box in there, and the idea is a shoot board is a ‘makable’ appliance, not one that’d be carried from site to site. But I know what you’re saying. It’s kind of a ruse, acting as though a chest can hold everything

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#10 posted 08-18-2014 12:01 PM

when I was a kid, my Dad had a carpenters tool box with some tools in it. I have no idea where they came from, (no one in my family ever did much carpentry or woodworking) but one of the things I remember was a collapsible framing square. Its been a few years, but it looked like it was copper. If I ever find one in the wild, it WILL come home with me. I have no idea what ever happened to the tools. I’m sure they are spread over the farm somewhere!!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#11 posted 08-18-2014 12:48 PM

...oh Smitty, you are the Man!

I had never seen a Standard T.D. 101 “Take Down” square before.
I’m guessing it was designed just for such needs as you have shared with us.
...now if there was just enough room for a telescopic stepladder on one end of the chest.
(sorry, wasn’t able to find an antique)

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#12 posted 08-18-2014 03:57 PM

^ Ooooo, I like that!

:-)

Thanks for stopping by, Len! Pushing the chest to be whatever it can be re: a place for useful (and used) tools.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#13 posted 08-18-2014 05:34 PM

I like the Goal of a (‘start to finish, the tools are in there’) working tool chest. ...whether you work from it or not.
...otherwise it’s Storage.

Yours is a Keeper.
Nicely executed.
Work Safely and have Fun. – Len

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#14 posted 08-18-2014 08:59 PM

;-)
I solved that in my Japanese Tool box, by cutting the Square to fit the box…
What a cool Square!
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#15 posted 08-18-2014 10:10 PM

Smitty, my eyes are old. Went back to your pics and sho nuff there’s the Acme! As far as the shoot board, I’d be willing to bet a small alteration to the removable saw till may produce a usable shoot board.

-- "Aged flatus, I heard that some one has already blown out your mortise." THE Surgeon ……………………………………. Kevin

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