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Misc. Shop Stuff #21: The DW102 Powershop Bench

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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 499 days ago 1149 reads 2 times favorited 31 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Anyone on LJs have first-hand experience with this cabinet? Seen one? Have one?

The baffle appears to catch sawdust, but short of lifting the saw out of place, how do you extract the caught dust? Strangest design I’ve seen it awhile… I have the measured drawing, it offers no text as to how to ‘use’ this baffle feature.

Strongly considering building something close to this bench for my DeWalt RAS, and I’ll include some type of dust collection that features a shop vac enclosed in one of the lower cabinets. But this baffle fascinates me.

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive



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Mauricio

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#1 posted 499 days ago

So what your saying is that the baffle baffles you?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#2 posted 499 days ago

In a word, yes.

BTW, the baffle in question is the board in the center bottom of the bench that angles downward from front to back in the pic above. The RAS chucks sawdust back from the cutting action; that stuff then falls into the baffle trap. Drawing seems clear that the baffle doesn’t slide out, and there’s no hole on either side cabinet or through the back.

One idea is, when the sawdust fills the cavity, buy a new saw.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#3 posted 499 days ago

That is a really neat looking RAS station. My guess would be that maybe there was a way to attach a bag for the dust to fall into?

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#4 posted 499 days ago

Ive toyed with a similar idea for a while now Smitty. Ive got a dedicated miter station with an opening in the back that the dust falls to the floor from. My problem is that it also sprays from side to side which your design seems to capture with the “wings”. Id say any funnel shaped device with a shop vac port at the bottom would grab around 80-90% of the dust.

Could the shown baffle fold out on hinges of some sort?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#5 posted 499 days ago

The RAS sits on Boards marked A. Lots of space in the open architecture towards the back of the saw for dust to fall. I half expected the baffle board to be able to pull out, towards the operator, so dust could be scooped up. But nope.

Chris – the wings will contain it; one of the best parts of this cabinet is the backsplash. Dust is climbing my wall as it is, and that’s just not cool.

The way this thing is build is so totally old school, as you can see from the plans…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#6 posted 499 days ago

I wonder if the component with the DeWalt label and the attached section of cabinet top slides out and foward, thus allowing access to the saw dust.

I wonder/doubt it was designed to have a dust collection port. How many hobbiest had shop vacs and dust collection systems during this era? Maybe they lifted out that section and scooped out the dust.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#7 posted 499 days ago

That piece with the label is the steel base of the saw. The saw weighs 140 pounds or so.

Scott, I think the ‘scoop it out’ part is mostly true. The extent of which the user lifts the bloody saw is ridiculous by today’s standard, but maybe it was expected then. I’ve seen one of these cabinets on ebay or CL, can’t remember which, and was hoping a LJ had one or had seen one in person and could share some insight.

I’ll do something with a baffle space, for sure, and the more suction the better.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#8 posted 499 days ago

Looks to me like the waste should drop through the bottom. The cabinet is 24” deep front to back however the undershelf® that the baffle meets at the bottom is only 18” deep. I think the design implies there would be an open space behind the bottom of the baffle and a catch box might be located on the floor at the rear that could be pulled out and emptied as needed. Maybe they don’t define it because it would not be connected and integral with the bench?

-- Dave, Clovis CA

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#9 posted 499 days ago

Dave – Eagle Eye Award for You!!!

You’re correct!

The shelf below the ‘baffle board’ is indeed 18” deep, meaning the baffle is a chute and sawdust will collect on the floor, under said shelf.

Wow! Thanks!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#10 posted 499 days ago

BTW, I’m honored you invested only your fifth comment in more than three years on my thread! :-)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#11 posted 499 days ago

Got ya. I dont have much experience with RAS’s and looked at some images to see their structure.

Obviously, I agree with you. Lifting that monster out to get to the saw dust is not the answer.

Where did you get the measured drawings?

It’s a moot point really isn’t it? You will modify the plans to accomodate a shop vac. Unless historical reproduction is your goal. It does pique your curiousity though.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#12 posted 499 days ago

Measured drawings from OWWM. And with DaveinCA’s insight, it just may lead me to be more ‘historical repro’ in my approach than I otherwise might have been. It does still mean ‘scoop it out,’ but that’s what my TS does now, too.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#13 posted 499 days ago

This blog caught my eye – I have an old MBF I bought off Craigslist a couple of years ago but have done nothing with it. I have always wanted to put it in a dedicated station but had not come up with the right design. Did a little google-ing and found this (it seems there is a dust bin at the bottom as mentioned above):

-- I can complicate anything

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#14 posted 499 days ago

Huzzah!!! That’s the very one! :-). Thanks, Freakazoid!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Freakazoid

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#15 posted 499 days ago

No, thank you! I found the future home for my saw!

-- I can complicate anything

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