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Wall Hung Tool Cabinet #1: This is going to happen, right?

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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 03-19-2012 03:35 AM 2003 reads 0 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
no previous part Part 1 of Wall Hung Tool Cabinet series Part 2: What Comes from Old Hoosiers? »

At one point in another forum post here on LJs, I offered a tool cabinet would be worked using the raw materials salvaged from this old Hoosier cabinet topper.

Including the beat up piece of tambour door.

Some fine grit ROS work on the tambouR got it to look presentable; here it is sitting on top of the now-disassembled topper.

Not sure where this is headed, evidenced by the foot-dragging on the project so far. But, I did build a headboard in the meantime, so it’s not all been idle days on the shop… I’ve also gued up the split pieces of the upper so the raw material is ready to work. Anyway, I’m starting a blog series to keep track of progress should any LJs want to follow along. Thanks for looking, stay tuned as I try to figure this out.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive



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#1 posted 03-19-2012 03:42 AM

Are you going to….
-Just use the lumber to make something new?
-Restore back to the original structure and put tools in it where you can?
-Restore for the most part but modify for specific tool storage?

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#2 posted 03-19-2012 03:46 AM

Re-use material as much as possible in a totally new build. Hoosiers are terrible tool cabinets. :-)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#3 posted 03-19-2012 03:47 AM

First thoughts are that you can stand a few nice long # 7’s and #8s in the verticle side compartments.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#4 posted 03-19-2012 03:59 AM

It’s an interesting situation I find myself in, re: tool storage at the moment, and I’m not breaking new ground w/ anyone on this site. I’ve got tools in my Roubo cabinet, below my bench, handplanes on the wall in open storage and in an old legal cabinet, saws in a till (including dovetail saws), and some other stragglers without a home that should co-habitate with related tools and be more accessible when I do related tasks. So while I don’t nessesarily want another cabinet, it makes sense.

Long planes to store (don’t have a good home) would include the #113 and the cambered jack and the #62. But I’ll do another entry to hash out (early) what I’d like to get into this storage piece…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#5 posted 03-19-2012 04:18 AM

Looks like plenty of potential for storage of some type or another. Lots of area and cubby holes to work with and organize. We all need more organization/storage, dont we? Good luck, we all know you can make something cool from it.

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#6 posted 03-19-2012 08:18 AM

Wow! This should be interesting. I’m looking forward to seeing what you come up with. What wood is it Smitty?

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#7 posted 03-19-2012 11:30 AM

Solid oak top and sides, with major shelf boards and bottom piece looking like poplar with a couple inches of oak edging. Oak isn’t good for tool cabinets, I’ve read, because of tannin content and it’s effect on tools. So I’m looking at adding some pine to the project, 7/8” stuff,

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#8 posted 03-19-2012 11:51 AM

I reclaimed a hoosier once. I went the other way.
Click for details

Of course, not much _lumber” left on my example. I have never heard that about oak and tool cabinets. Some good stuff going on in the Smitty woodworking shop.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#9 posted 03-19-2012 12:01 PM

Here’s one place I’ve favorited that talks about tannic acid and wood choice. I’ll keep the use of oak, as it comes in direct contact with tools, to a minimum in closed spaces as a result. Good thing the hutch is a hybrid of materials!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#10 posted 03-19-2012 03:33 PM

Cool, I look forward to watching the progress.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#11 posted 03-19-2012 04:11 PM

I’ve know about tannic acid reacting with iron to form a black stain. In fact, Ive played with steel wool dissolved on vinegar to stainebonize oak. However I did not know that it will corrode tools. Hmm. I am a little skeptical that just enclosure of high tannin wood will corrode tools. In contact, yes. I don’t know the chemistry so I guess tannic acid “gases” off.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#12 posted 03-19-2012 04:16 PM

Surely it won’t corrode tools if you put a surface finish on it like a varnish or lacquer and seal it in. I do know that you using BLO on oak can react with the tannin and create grey streaks. Been there, done that.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#13 posted 03-19-2012 05:54 PM

Can those oak stains be sanded out removed. My understanding is that the tannins caused staining not corrosion. I sometime leave my metal planes sitting on the bench and the oak shavings can leave little stains.

I would also add Birch to the list of woods that don’t stain wood. That’s what my tool holders are made of now and I haven’t had any issues.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#14 posted 03-19-2012 06:16 PM

I’ve done a little search and the basic gist that I came up with is that tannic acid stains iron/steel via a black oxide. This is similar to bluing. The oxide does not consume the metal like ferrous oxide (rust).

Still have not found anything that suggest that a gaseous form of tannic acid arising from an oak chest will do anything.

This is an interesting read Blackening Wood – on Accident … on Purpose

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#15 posted 03-19-2012 07:48 PM

Old German (cabinetmaker’s) wives tale?

But then Gerstner has been making oak chests for tools over a century…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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