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Skill Building #2: Mitered Dovetails, Part Two

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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 03-31-2011 04:09 AM 2170 reads 0 times favorited 22 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Mitered Dovetails Anyone? Part 2 of Skill Building series Part 3: Mitered Dovetails - Part Three of Three »

Okay, if mitered dovetails are the objective and three tries is what it takes to make it happen, then here is number two… In pictures:

First, set gauge:

Mark tailboard w/ miter:





Mark, knifeline and cut mitered edge:

Using coping saw to clear the pin ‘waste’ between the tails:






All Clean!

Now for the challenge. Hard to scribe cutlines on the pinboard because of the miter cut:



Cutting the pin board miters:

Clearing pin waste:

How’s it look? Second try:


And now, to the pile with the rest of them!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive



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a1Jim

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#1 posted 03-31-2011 04:19 AM

Good blog ,well done

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#2 posted 03-31-2011 04:27 AM

Look at all the book ends you have made.

Great blog;)

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#3 posted 03-31-2011 04:58 AM

Very nice step by step example of how it’s done.
Fine job.
Thanks.

-- Having fun...Eric

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#4 posted 03-31-2011 08:25 AM

It worked !! Nice tutorial. Where would yoiu use these? I don’t think I have ever seem them before.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#5 posted 03-31-2011 03:14 PM

@Topo – I’m building a low-profile tool cabinet to sit under the Roubo bench in my shop, and the plan is to fab a frame and panel back that gets a compound rabbet joint with the carcase to join the two. The mitered dovetail joint accomodates that carcase rabbet. (At least that what I’ve read from Robert Wearing, and he ought to know). :-)

@Others – Thanks for the positive feedback!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#6 posted 03-31-2011 05:27 PM

it seems to mee you are ready for the real chanlange
of making hidden dovetails ….... :-) not joking here ….. but I´m still ducking ..lol

take care
Dennis

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#7 posted 03-31-2011 06:23 PM

@Dennis – I love the challenge of blind dovetails – just can’t figure mastering them just to hide the result! :-) thanks for the confidence!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#8 posted 03-31-2011 06:50 PM

I allso do strugle alot with them before …. LOL and just cuold figur out how to do them
but but when we had this little great 24 hours meeting in Copenhagen me Mads and Thomas
in the autumn I was given a french book with drawings about how to do them
and I did saw a blog somewhere on the net (can´t remember where ) :-(
but it has make my want to try again as soon as I have restored my tools
I know many wuold say why the H… do all that nice work just to hide it from others ,
and that is one out of two things that you ain´t see them on L J I think

for me its both the chanlange and saying why not …. lol little like when a climber is asked why they do it
becourse the mauntain is there they allways reply … lol

as I understand it ( I still have to master the dovetail ha ha ) it shuoldn´t bee more difficult to do
the blinddovetail the hard trick is to make the miter with the correct angle and its done with a cheisel

but if you can wait a year or two…..I will give it a try and make a blog

take care
Dennis

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#9 posted 03-31-2011 07:03 PM

@Dennis – Okay, okay… A challenge then, between you and me :-) to each post blind dovetails on LJ before the end of 2011… I’m up for it if you are. “Because they are there,” right? (love it!)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#10 posted 03-31-2011 08:47 PM

I don’t know how married you are to tails-first dovetailing, but I think you could avoid the guesswork on the tailboard-to-pinboard transfer if you cut your pins first.

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#11 posted 03-31-2011 08:56 PM

@Alster – You might be right that pins-first makes more sense w/ mitered dovetails… I’ll give it a try.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#12 posted 03-31-2011 09:35 PM

Smitty …. that wood be a chalange of the big one for me I don´t even kow a word of frence … LOL
but if I get time for it I will strugle the rest of the year with the frence …. ( I think I buy a translater
to do some typing ) ha ha ha …. top I´m in to see if its posiple to do it before new year 2011

Dennis

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#13 posted 03-31-2011 09:36 PM

OOH BOY what have I talked myself into …......

take care
Dennis

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#14 posted 04-01-2011 02:20 AM

Smitty_C.. great post. Another tip you can try next time to get those miters absolutely perfect is to leave them a bit too proud from the beginning so that when you start your test fitting for your cleaned up pin and tail boards the faces of the two miters need a bit trimmed off them and won’t allow that last 1/32” of an inch for the dovetails to tighten up all the way.. With the miters tightly together, use the thin kerfed saw to saw down the middle of the miter one or two times, removing a little material at a time to get them just right.. If you take your time you should be able to get the dovetails and miter to come together tight without any without any gaps. That is a tough joint given how unforgiving it can be matching up everything.

-- Scott, Colorado

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#15 posted 04-01-2011 03:57 AM

@Scott – Wow, love that idea, and can see alot of promise in that approach when the chips are down. Thank you for the input.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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