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Hand Tools #4: Want nice Moxon vise hardware on the cheap?

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Blog entry by Jerry posted 03-29-2015 12:38 AM 2549 reads 4 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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If you’ve ever gazed longingly at Benchcrafted's Moxon vise hardware kit for $149.00, get a load of this, Grizzly sells really nice cast iron hand wheels for as little as $10.95.

You can get some threaded rod at the hardware store for very little, add a couple of nuts and bolts, and you’re there for a lot less money. If you want to get the Acme threaded rod, you can get a 3 foot length of 3/4” here for $16.95

ADDENDUM: Well there seems to be a serious “gotcha” with this idea. If you use allthread from the hardware store, no problem, but if you want to actually tap the handles to match Acme thread, the cheapest tap you will find is $96.00

ADDENDUM 2: There is hope after all, several enterprising souls have described in detail how to make your own Acme Tap!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/



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Arcola60

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#1 posted 03-29-2015 01:09 AM

I have those hand wheels from Grizzly in my favorites. I am thinking the same thing as you see it. I have not checked out the cost of Acme threaded rod and nuts. For the amount of torque for a vise, I think UNC threaded rod will work just fine.

Ellery Becnel

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#2 posted 03-29-2015 01:24 AM


I have those hand wheels from Grizzly in my favorites. I am thinking the same thing as you see it. I have not checked out the cost of Acme threaded rod and nuts. For the amount of torque for a vise, I think UNC threaded rod will work just fine.

Ellery Becnel

- Arcola60

I made a very rudimentary Moxon vise awhile back, but at the time I didn’t know about these inexpensive hand wheels so I made mine out of wood. Problem with the wood is that it doesn’t have that great flywheel effect that a heavy cast iron wheel does, so it’s really slow to tighten. As far as the Acme threaded rod goes, that stuff is fairly expensive, but not too bad, here’s a” link for a three foot length of 3/4 for $16.99. The allthread I got from Ace has been plenty strong enough for all of my needs so far.

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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gfadvm

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#3 posted 03-29-2015 01:53 AM

I made wooden wheels for mine as well and I REALLY wish I had used ACME instead of all thread from the big box (way too slow for me). So I installed a hex nut on the center of my wheel so I can use my 18 volt DeWalt to spin em!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Jerry

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#4 posted 03-29-2015 02:01 AM



I made wooden wheels for mine as well and I REALLY wish I had used ACME instead of all thread from the big box (way too slow for me). So I installed a hex nut on the center of my wheel so I can use my 18 volt DeWalt to spin em!

- gfadvm

I know Andy, I think maybe $70.00 for the wheels, Acme threaded rod, and nuts and that’s pretty darn cheap. BTW, how’s that project coming?

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 03-29-2015 02:08 AM

Jerry, The ‘experimental project is done but I decided to add an “accessory” and now I need to finish it before I post the project. Probably post it Monday.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#6 posted 03-29-2015 02:45 AM

You are right Jerry it can be done at a much lower cost .
I use weight lifting plates for the wheel and make a plywood hub to house the nut and have used this on all my vise and also use 3/4” acme rod .
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/116121
8 “plate cost me $9.99 Can.

Klaus

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#7 posted 03-29-2015 03:09 AM

And don’t forget cheap C clamps as a source of both acme threaded rod and nuts…. Cheap!
http://lumberjocks.com/shipwright/blog/40173

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#8 posted 03-29-2015 04:10 AM

A moxon vise is high on my list of shop projects. I have a fairly substantial job coming up. Six redwood benches with arms and back. This is going to severely test my shop space.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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#9 posted 03-29-2015 01:12 PM

Thnx for your info Jerry. I’d like to change out the wheels on my ‘50’s Craftsman t.s. one o these days. I’ll keep this in mind for sure.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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Jerry

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#10 posted 03-29-2015 06:27 PM



You are right Jerry it can be done at a much lower cost .
I use weight lifting plates for the wheel and make a plywood hub to house the nut and have used this on all my vise and also use 3/4” acme rod .
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/116121
8 “plate cost me $9.99 Can.

Klaus

- kiefer

Klaus that is just so darned clever I can’t believe it. Nice looking bench!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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Jerry

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#11 posted 03-29-2015 06:28 PM



And don t forget cheap C clamps as a source of both acme threaded rod and nuts…. Cheap!
http://lumberjocks.com/shipwright/blog/40173

- shipwright

Oh wow Paul, that is great information. I’ve been trying to get through the wealth of stuff you have in your profile, but I’d not seen this yet. Thanks very much for the tip!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#12 posted 04-02-2015 01:46 AM

Another source for screws would be junk yard scissor jacks. Last time I was there they just gave me the jack when I asked how much. It will take a bit of work to extract the screw but you can’t beat the price.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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Jerry

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#13 posted 04-02-2015 01:49 AM



Another source for screws would be junk yard scissor jacks. Last time I was there they just gave me the jack when I asked how much. It will take a bit of work to extract the screw but you can t beat the price.
Jim

- Boatman53

That is a GREAT idea. Thanks!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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