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Blog entry by SPalm posted 1520 days ago 8680 reads 6 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Here goes my brain again, off on some tangent.
I have been thinking of building this box for a long time. I want to try to use veneer for some box building, but need some tricks to hide the veneered edge. So I chose a gable topped box with walnut corner treatment to hide the veneer. I am not sure if I like it, but it does have some potential. It was always prettier in my head. Maybe comments on the design might help. Or even the suggestion to start over or just bag it.
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It started with a glue up of 1/4 inch MDF at 30 degrees. The veneer is quarter-sawn cherry.

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I then cut these at 45 degrees making little triangles. I used another 30 degree temp glue up to make a sled holder.

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I used the same sled holder rotated to cut the 90 degree cut offs.

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The first gable glue up.

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What the inside of the gables looks like. (I don’t know what is with the yellow tint to this picture.)

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I veneered one side of some 1/2 inch MDF (which will be the inside), cut 30 degree points at the top, mitered the corners, and cut a dado for the box bottom. (The plan was to cut arcs at the bottoms to form feet, but I forgot until too late.)

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I then glued on the top, letting it overhang the box.

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Then cut the top to the sides with a flush cut router bit.

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I used a flush cut saw to finish the gable points.

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I cut the top off the box. I also veneered the top edges at this point, so when I veneered the outside it would cover the seam. (I cheated here and used one large sheet, instead of 4 mitered strips. Dumb move.)

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I then veneered the four sides while trying to match the grain.

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So the box so far looks like this. It looks kind of bulky to me. 6.5 inches tall, by 4.5 inches square. The bottom is recessed by 1.5 inches, so I could reduce the height by cutting it down. Or cut an arc to ‘lift it up’ and form feet. I don’t know. It has a coat of shellac on it.

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Here is an inside view of the two pieces. (Again the weird yellow tint to the pics. ??) I guess it is calling out for hinges?

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Now here is another dilemma. The plan was to add flush cut vertical walnut strips to the 4 corners. Also add the same type of strips to the outside edges of the gables (like the round piece, if it were a triangle instead). I don’t know if I can do it. Or if I need to.

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Any ideas? I could use some.
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon



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PurpLev

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#1 posted 1520 days ago

I think it’ll give the box a very cool look, but may not be easy to get done. since you already cut the top this might make it even more challenging. I would say use a hand rabbet plane, but with the top cut out already this may be tricky.

I would probably resort to scoring the lines with a marking gauge, then chisel the extra off carefully.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 1520 days ago

You’re already out of my league with this project, so I’ll just say I can’t wait to see the finished product. Looks great so far!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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a1Jim

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#3 posted 1520 days ago

This is a very cool Idea Patron I’m sure could help

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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sras

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#4 posted 1520 days ago

Cool shape! You can set up a guide fence on your router table only as tall as the rabbet you want to cut. If you cut the vertical edges first, the fence should clear the corners when you do the gables (I think).

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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Karson

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#5 posted 1520 days ago

Steve: Take a look at Steward-MacDonald in some of their guitar tools.

I have the Precision Router Base and they have a binding router guide that fits a dremel tool. I’ve got a Foredom tool that I use with the precision Router base.

Here is their web site for the tool section.

When I bought the Router Base. I bought the kit which includes the bearing attachment for cutting the corners etc.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Blake

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#6 posted 1520 days ago

SOOOOOOOOOOOO cool. I would have never figured out the complex angles on my own. Awesome job. And as for your question, the form speaks for itself. It doesn’t need much else.

-- Happy woodworking! http://www.openarmsphotography.com

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BritBoxmaker

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#7 posted 1520 days ago

I’ve done some of this type of work before, its not easy is it?

Personally I don’t think you need the trim. If it were just on the ends of the gables the tops of the gables would look bare. If you did those as well then the gulleys look under-dressed and thats a whole new ball game.

I know I’m known for contrasting colours but would veneering all the sides the same but alternate light/dark for the gable tops lift its impact?

Hmm, I seem to be posing more questions than answers here. All the same an interesting technical challenge, Steve.

Excellent blog though. I may be tempted back to this style of box work, yet.

Martyn

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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BritBoxmaker

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#8 posted 1520 days ago

I’ve done some of this type of work before, its not easy is it?

Personally I don’t think you need the trim. If it were just on the ends of the gables the tops of the gables would look bare. If you did those as well then the gulleys look under-dressed and thats a whole new ball game.

I know I’m known for contrasting colours but would veneering all the sides the same but alternate light/dark for the gable tops lift its impact?

Hmm, I seem to be posing more questions than answers here. All the same an interesting technical challenge, Steve.

Martyn

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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BritBoxmaker

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#9 posted 1520 days ago

Sorry posted the same thing twice, by mistake.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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degoose

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#10 posted 1519 days ago

One word… KEWL!!!!
and some more words… glad to see you thinking outside the box…

-- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ lazylarrywoodworks.com.au For lovers of all things timber...

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SPalm

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#11 posted 1519 days ago

Thanks everyone.

I think the basic design/concept has potential. But I do believe something is wrong with my proportions. Then again, it does look pretty cool. I think I need to shorten it – go more cubic.

The veneer edges meeting went better than I had expected. They are practically invisible. This is one of the reasons that I wanted to add the banding. The other is wear-ability. I hate it when veneered things chip. I am still new to this veneer thing. But without it, the box is really clean.

Purp: I suck at hand tools. But I do need to grow up someday.

Steve: I think you are on to something with a fence that is shorter that the height of the rabbet bit. That is a really short fence, but I think it will work. You get a Gold Star Sticker. I am just afraid of mucking it up.

Karson: Nice link. Good stuff there. Thanks.

Blake: I might just leave it as it. I respect your design ability and now you have given me permission.

Brit: We think alike. I have never seen a box like this before, but I know there must be some (lots). It would be nice to study a few.

Autumn: I am always confused. There is a bunch of stuff going on here. It hurts sometimes.

Charlie, Jim, Degoose: Thanks. Your posts make my day.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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BritBoxmaker

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#12 posted 1519 days ago

I’ll see if I can dig something up, Steve.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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BritBoxmaker

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#13 posted 1519 days ago

I’ve just posted Pattern of Four and I’ve got a previous post called DNA, both are veneered, questions welcome.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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nmkidd

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#14 posted 1516 days ago

Trim may help offset it some…..but it looks great as it…...different concept….cool lines…..beyond my scope!!!!

-- Doug, New Mexico.......the only stupid question is one that is never asked!........don't fix it, if it ain't broke!

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NormG

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#15 posted 1512 days ago

A lot of work, but done very well

-- Norman

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