AAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHH! Steam bending standard 2X4 SPF stud material is, hands down, the single most difficult and FRUSTRATING practice I have ever undertaken. I went out to the shop today to finally begin assembly, and 30% of my pieces decided (after a night in the forms) that they didn’t want to bend after all :(
First time I’ve ever had wood splinter after being in the forms…oh well, in true LJ form I took a deep breath, collected my thoughts, then….... started over. I am down to 2/3’s of a stud now, which is OK because my original design was asthetically too “top heavy” and I needed to make the change anyway. I apologize for the lack of pics, but A: ANY pic I posted other than the ones in my first blog post would give away my surprise, and B: SWMBO has total control of the camera ;)
To anybody else that is trying to bend wood from a standard stud, you have my utmost respect….I’m into about 30 hours total now, and still don’t have anything that looks like a finished component. I have this “vision” of what this 2X4 can turn into: Gracefull curves and an organic appeal, while maintaing the usefullness of a functional piece of furniture…..but it really…REALLY doesn’t want to play along! Remember before when I said it was “personal” now? Well….now it’s at a whole new level. Now I’m making it my priorioty…no, my mission….no, my primary mission in life to bend this 2X4 to my will (pun intended). I have one more day to focus on this thing….then it will be decision time. It’s funny, the picture in my head seemed do-able…but the “getting there” is far more difficult than I would have imagined. I am on my final 2X4 (also removed from my 1/2 done basement reno) and I won’t be removing anymore framing. It’s this time or never!
My box entry was put on hold due to my (unhealthy) obsession with this piece of framing lumber, but I started the final finishing steps. Oil and french polish: Beautifull, but you really can’t rush it…..that’s OK, some projects, for some special people, are worth the time. And seeing as this one will be for my wife? I’m willing to take the time…I owe her way more than that.
Thanks for letting me vent, it’s 9:45 PM here and I’m heading back out to wrestle with my curse a little more…..wish me luck!
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21 comments so far
mot
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posted 668 days ago
NPDH!
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Todd A. Clippinger
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posted 668 days ago
I never would have tried to steam bend a framing 2×4. I would have done a bent lamination. I have an idea the soft wood of the 2×4 will not accept steam bending the way that harder woods will.
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Karson
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posted 668 days ago
Sorry about the problems. I understand that HD still has some 2X4’s in stock if you want to try bent laminations.
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GaryK
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posted 668 days ago
Lamination is the way to go.
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roman
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posted 668 days ago
nothing ventured
nothing gained
that what doesnt steam well and bend, generally doesnt bend well without steam
you cant have both in one step, or even two ar three or more steps, patience and as many as needed. It’s a lot like cooking.
steam the laminations and bend
steam the laminations again and bend again
then steam and glue the laminations when ready
those who never made a mistake, never did much.
Cheers
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SPalm
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posted 668 days ago
I feel your pain.
I tried and failed at bending this stuff.
I will go with what roman said, it did not bend well no matter how thin I cut it for laminations.
But I am sure you can do it, you got the skills.
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rikkor
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posted 668 days ago
I can relate more than you know. Good luck my friend.
YorkshireStewart
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posted 668 days ago
Rikkor and Ryan. My sympathies are with you. I’m just pleased I didn’t go for a chair incorporating bends. I hope you had more success last night Ryan.
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MsDebbieP
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posted 668 days ago
oh Tom.. don’t rub it in—“No pictures; didn’t happen”—THAT”S the problem- it’s not happening!!
Keep the faith!! Don’t give in…...... You shall conquer… (and then a little Tim Allen man grunt for you)
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Todd A. Clippinger
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posted 668 days ago
Oh yea, the man grunt.
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SPalm
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Thinking about this on my comute to work. I had always heard that successful bending required air dried lumber. The kiln drying locks in the fibers. I wonder if this has something to do with it.
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mrtrim
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posted 668 days ago
try buying your 2×4 at h. d they have plenty already bent !! lol
MsDebbieP
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laughed out loud at that one MrTrim
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toyguy
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posted 668 days ago
My sympathies . But I just don’t understand !
When I did my 2×4 project the pieces bent all by them selves.
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Ryan Shervill
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Thinking about this on my comute to work. I had always heard that successful bending required air dried lumber. The kiln drying locks in the fibers. I wonder if this has something to do with it.
Yes, the fact that wood should be green or air-dried has something to do with it….AND the fact that softwood “can’t be steam bent”, AND the fact that every stud I looked at had full arc grain (made from small trees!) AND the knots that are ever present in framing lumber…...what can I say, it’s a challenge!
I am happy to report that my shop time (untill 1:30 AM) last night paid off….I actually managed to get 1/4” material to steam bend….and only got second degree burns in the process :)
To all that were talking about bent lamination, well….this design calls for both. some of the strips had to wwrap arounfd a tight radius, so glue laminating was out. Even at 3/32” they wouldn’t bend that tight, so I wen’t whole-hog and bent the full 1/4” thickness with the steam. Now that the individual strips are out of the forms, I have bent laminated them into another series of forms….forms forms forms…now I know where my time went!
I should be into glue-up tonight, and (God willing) sanding and finishing before the time limit is up :)
Thanks for the words of encouragement, I was at my limit last night and I needed that!
Ryan
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MsDebbieP
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posted 668 days ago
can’t wait to see this masterpiece. Does it have a name? The nemesis or something?
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Ryan Shervill
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posted 668 days ago
HA! I like it….”The Nemesis”.
I don’t know about masterpiece….I just wanted to do something different and try some things that I would otherwise never do, learn some stuff I would otherwise never learn, and maybe try and give Stewart a run for his money :) ).
LOL…the nemesis…..
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Zuki
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posted 668 days ago
The Nemesis . . . Project X . . . what name does Mot have on his?
I enjoyed your posting Ryan . . . funny.
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Ryan Shervill
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posted 666 days ago
UPDATE :)
The bending, forming, laminating, cutting, and sanding….DONE! A couple of days for finish and I might just get this thing done!
Heres a couple of carefully cropped pics…just to tease :)
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MsDebbieP
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posted 665 days ago
tease!!!!!
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scottb
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posted 662 days ago
aha – its the kiln drying… if one of my studs (salvaged from the house) predates the borg, i might have a chance – and only one day to do it!
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