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Blog entry by RussellAP posted 03-05-2012 02:16 AM 3507 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Tomorrow I’m picking up my new Ridgid 4512. I want a 50 tooth ATBR on it. I cut hardwoods and I never force the work. I’d love a Forrest, but there are others out there.

What’s you opinions?

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.



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Viking

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#1 posted 03-05-2012 02:23 AM

Russell;

Take a look at the Freud blades as well. Good pricing on Amazon.

Good luck with your new saw!

-- Rick Gustafson - Lost Creek Ranch - Colorado County, Texas

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Marty Backe

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#2 posted 03-05-2012 02:48 AM

Searching ATBR appears to mostly point to Forrest blades. Your question should probably be, “what blade do people recommend for <insert type=”true”>”?

I’m a huge fan of Freud blades. I’ve been using them exclusively for over 20 years. I have dedicated crosscut and rip blades, and combination blades when the cut doesn’t have to be perfect. I’ve heard a lot of great things about their Fusion combination blade, and as Viking states, their pricing is very competitive.

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#3 posted 03-05-2012 02:55 AM

Hi Russell, I have had very good success with Freud blades, the one I have on my TS, gives me such a clean cut that the edges do not even need to be run through the jointer before glue up. I have a Freud thin kerf blade but I have not used it yet, but I assume the cut will be just as clean. I have cut a lot of hard maple with the blade and no complaints, goes through it like it was pine.

-- Martin ....always count the number of fingers you have before, and after using the saw.

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#4 posted 03-05-2012 03:13 AM

When I first started woodworking (only 2 years ago maybe) I bought a Forrest Woodworker II because I was frustrated with the blade-marks left on my work from my cheap(er) blades. The Forrest IS a really nice blade, but to be honest, I hardly ever use it. It’s SO nice that I can’t justify “wasting” its awesomeness on any of my projects. Instead, I just use my cheap blades, leave an extra 1/32” on all my cuts, and take the rest to the jointer (or hand planes) to clean it up. You’ll have to clean it up anyway, why waste the money on a nice blade?

Take the time to tune up your TS, make yourself a zero-clearance insert to handle tearout, and spend the extra $ on a less frustrating hobby ;-)

-- Adam, Rochester NY

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#5 posted 03-05-2012 03:26 AM

I love my Forrest blades, have a few different ones. They are kinda expensive, but seem to hold an edge for a long time. They offer quality sharpening service as well. You will want to get a thin kerf more than likely and a zero clearance insert. I have a freud rip blade, but have yet to try it. Most freud owners speak highly of them. That ridgid should come w/a blade that will work for a while. Good luck.

Edit: dont forget a blade stabilizer….a cheap hobby, it aint.

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RussellAP

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#6 posted 03-05-2012 04:32 AM

I have blade stabilizers from the sears closing sale.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 03-05-2012 04:57 AM

I have never seen the need for spending $100 plus on a saw blade. I’ve bought blades for $20 that last for years and cut fine. If your cutting thick would I’d suggest a combo blade ,if plywood think about a 60-80 tooth. I’ve picked them up at garage sales for as Little as a $1.00 The important thing with blades are to keep them clean and sharp. Having 2 or 3 blades is a big help when you send one out to be sharpened you have a spare,but one is fine to start.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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RussellAP

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#8 posted 03-05-2012 05:38 AM

Jim, my craftsman blades are new, they cut great glue-able edges, but I have one on the Ryobi TS and the other on the DeWalt miter saw, it’s a 12 inch. I still have the blades that came on those saws for a spare if I need one. I want something in a 50 tooth ATBR for the new TS which wont be used for utility, only for special work. I don’t think you’ll find a 50 tooth ATBR at Sears though and the Forrest are quite expensive. I was looking for a cheaper alternative, but I don’t want to end up with a bad brand. I tend to distrust brands that I see sold everywhere, the best are usually harder to find. When I start cutting for the Adirondack chairs I will likely cut about 5 at a time so I want a blade that will hold up and give consistently good edges.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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a1Jim

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#9 posted 03-05-2012 05:50 AM

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ETwoodworks

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#10 posted 03-05-2012 06:01 AM

I like CMT they are great blades.

-- Building quality in a throw away world.

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RussellAP

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#11 posted 03-05-2012 07:10 AM

The CMT must be a flat top grind, they say continuous but what does that mean? Combination blades consist of 50 teeth arranged in sets of five, with four ATB teeth followed by a raker tooth (thus the ATBR designation.) The ATB teeth are designed to crosscut cleanly while the raker teeth aid in ripping. Combination blades are also considered “all-purpose” blades. The teeth on a TCG blade alternate between a raker tooth and a chamfered tooth. The chamfered tooth roughs out the cut, while the following FTG tooth cleans it up. The CMT web site says nothing about this on their blades. This is what I find common to most blades on the market, they are marketing to the general public and don’t have any details. They’re cheap enough to try one out at least but I would really rather buy a blade from a company that gives some useful info. I’m very picky about the appearance of my cuts. If I sell something I want it to look perfect without tear- out, it just looks tacky and wood is expensive and it make me drive to get more, lol.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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559dustdesigns

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#12 posted 03-05-2012 08:27 AM

I am really happy with my Amana table saw blade. I have used this model pr1040 Prestige blade, for more then a year its great.

-- Aaron - central California "If you haven't got the time to do it right, when will you find the time to do it over?"

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a1Jim

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#13 posted 03-05-2012 03:57 PM

I guess I always chuckle a little when I see specs put forward buy the manufacturer, to me it could just mean that the company that sells the $100 plus blades is better at giving information or promoting them self. I know that saw blades like Forrest have lots of folks who like them so if that’s the kind of blade you want just buy one. Along the same lines there are lots of folks who love chisels that cost $450 each but a set of Marples chisels at around $10 bucks each still cut wood and very well if sharpened properly and hold their edge well. I guess since I’ve been making furniture for 25 years I love tear out and I’m not fussy about my cuts ? :)) I know how it goes with advise there’s always the old guys who say things like “back in my days we use to rip boards with a hatchet and the looked fine”. :)) Ha Ha Ha

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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RussellAP

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#14 posted 03-05-2012 04:12 PM

Jim, I’m just trying to avoid making mistakes when I get tools and things like blades. That’s what the forum is good for, milking experience from the pros. If my last comment seemed a bit curt, it had nothing to do with the subject. My daughter is home from college and was making me mad. I’m rushed today, have a friend coming in from out of town and still have to pick up a truck and get the TS and the wood, plus clean the dust out of the shop, it has a nice yellow glow to it after sanding that honey locust.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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a1Jim

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#15 posted 03-05-2012 04:21 PM

I’m afraid I was the the one being curt . I sure know what being rushed is like and and having every day pressures.
Enjoy your visits. I know I’m not the only pro here so you have to take all the advise and do your own evaluation of what works for you.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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