Observations #11: Does It Really Matter?

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Blog entry by Russel posted 07-04-2009 03:17 PM 9154 reads 0 times favorited 30 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 10: Odds and Ends Part 11 of Observations series Part 12: An Inconvenient Idea »

I am a fan of LumberJocks. Particularly in it’s current form, because it has pretty much been this way since I joined. That was a little more than 9,000 members ago and not quite two years.

It may be me, but lately it seems that there have been a number of posts saying that people should be stopped. People should be stopped from posting so many projects. People should be stopped from making so many comments. People should be stopped from greetings newcomers. People should be stopped from commenting on older projects. People should be stopped from posting jokes.

After reading these things I wonder why some folks feel it is so important to stop other folks. I won’t deny that I am at time bothered by some of the postings. But hey, it’s not my place to police other people who are operating within the rules. And, it takes no time and minimal effort to skip right past those posts that I have no interest in.

Perhaps I am far enough out of the ordinary that I am not affected by the fact the world doesn’t conform to my desires. Possibly my life is empty enough that I welcome any input into the abyss. Or, possibly I’m old enough to accept that sometimes I will be inconvenienced. And, surprisingly enough, I will also inconvenience others (if you’re reading this, sorry for the inconvenience).

I can honestly say that in my time on LumberJocks, I have never been harmed in any way. I have had to click the ‘Next Page’ a few times more than I might like, but it certainly didn’t hurt me any.

Now, granted, my ego has been smacked a couple times. But, truth be told, it probably really needed it. So, I find it difficult to find any fault in people who might use this site different than I do. After all, the absence of my perfection is on full display.

I guess this is another of those posts about how the site is used, and I guess my real question is, if there is no harm or hardship created, and only very minor inconvenience, does it really matter?

-- Working at Woodworking

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#1 posted 07-04-2009 03:34 PM

well said. This has always been a friendly neighborhood kinda place.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- --

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#2 posted 07-04-2009 03:34 PM

and I love it too! ;)

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- --

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#3 posted 07-04-2009 03:35 PM

we need more inclusion, less rules.
If we help each other, we all win.

Happy Independence Day everyone! – even if you aren’t in the US… nothing wrong with celebrating a little independence!

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- --

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#4 posted 07-04-2009 03:39 PM

I wasn’t inconvenienced Russel, I agree with you. As far as i’m concerned people can post what ever they want. i’ll check the thread out and if i’m not interested, it’s “move along son, nothing here, move along”.

are some of these threads a waste of my time? maybe, but what i get out of this forum much out weighs reading some threads that don’t interest me. and just maybe,i might get something out of them.


ps. Russel, let me know the next time you make it up to you lumber guy, maybe i’ll hook up with you.

-- Talent on Loan from God - Rush Limbaugh

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#5 posted 07-04-2009 03:40 PM

I think that formatting options given to Martin are fine. He’ll either think that their doable or not. And having telemarketers removed is fine too. But, other than that, if people follow the guidelines for posting then the inconvenience is not important. It’s as if clicking the mouse to move on to something else was a major inconvenience.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#6 posted 07-04-2009 03:58 PM

Good post.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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#7 posted 07-04-2009 04:10 PM

thank you russel :
its thinking ( and expressing ) like this ,
that makes the difference to me .
i love woodworking !
i love knowing people that are interesting .
i’ve had enough control .
i want more freedom.
i greet some one politely , and get to know them ,
based on who they are , not how they admire me .
woodworking is the marketplace ,
people are the goods ,
sharing is the point

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Don K.

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#8 posted 07-04-2009 04:14 PM

Russel, good post and well said !!

-- Don S.E. OK

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#9 posted 07-04-2009 04:20 PM

WELL said. Inclusion and tolerance is what this country is all about. Great post on such an important date as we in the USA celebrate freedom. I’m brand new to this site and loving it. But I do know how to click next!

As for my use of the word “tolerance”. Please don’t mistake it for the seemingly politically correct term being used by the most IN-tolerant group of folks . . . . . . . . . nope . . . . . I digress . . . . not the right forum. (Slapping hands as they type!)

Happy 4th of July citizens of the United States of America!!

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#10 posted 07-04-2009 04:41 PM

Good post, what we don’t like is only a click away
Happy Independence Day to all you fine people

-- OC down in Costa Rica. come down and see me some time. I'll keep the light on for you

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#11 posted 07-04-2009 04:55 PM

Well said!!!

-- Scott NM,

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#12 posted 07-04-2009 05:05 PM

Russel, this is a good post. I have always agreed with the philosophy that you are presenting here. Whether it be comments or projects I do not have any problem with the number of posts that any one individual adds, as long as it meets the posting criteria. In general the new members, when they first arrive, will have a backlog of projects to be posted. Let them post. They are enthusiastic about showing their work and sharing these projects with the rest of us.

As Scott said this is an open and friendly place. Let’s keep it that way.

Just my 2 cents worth.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#13 posted 07-04-2009 05:30 PM

I just posted this on the other page and I’ll include it here:

I’m kind of a newbie, since I’m still 20 days short of a year, so I leave decisions like this to the ones who have made this site what it is. I have on a couple of occasions been guilty of posting 3 or 4 projects in a day. Just seems like I get around to shooting them a few at a time, not that I planned it that way.

Here’s my two cents worth: I really like this site just as it is. Try to find another site with this much expertise available to answer questions, point out areas for improvement and in general, just encourage one another. No site is perfect, including LJs, but it’s by far the best location on the web and I applaud all of you who have made it that way.

To each and every one of you, have a great Fourth. To each of you who have served our country, thanks for making it possible.

-- Gary, Huntsville. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.

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#14 posted 07-04-2009 05:41 PM

Well said.
Now, let’s hope those who want to limit what others do take the hint.


-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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Jim Crockett (USN Retired)

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#15 posted 07-04-2009 06:16 PM

Great post, Russel. There is enough control in my life, I certainly don’t need it in a forum to which I belong for its enjoyment and knowledge value. Too many “I know what’s best for you and by God, you’re going to do it” people out there already!


-- A veteran is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America," for an amount of "up to and including his/her life".

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