Observations #11: Does It Really Matter?

well said. This has always been a friendly neighborhood kinda place.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

and I love it too! ;)

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

we need more inclusion, less rules.
If we help each other, we all win.

Happy Independence Day everyone! – even if you aren’t in the US… nothing wrong with celebrating a little independence!

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

I wasn’t inconvenienced Russel, I agree with you. As far as i’m concerned people can post what ever they want. i’ll check the thread out and if i’m not interested, it’s “move along son, nothing here, move along”.

are some of these threads a waste of my time? maybe, but what i get out of this forum much out weighs reading some threads that don’t interest me. and just maybe,i might get something out of them.

rich

ps. Russel, let me know the next time you make it up to you lumber guy, maybe i’ll hook up with you.

-- Talent on Loan from God - Rush Limbaugh ----------www.genesiswoodworks.com----------

Amen,
I think that formatting options given to Martin are fine. He’ll either think that their doable or not. And having telemarketers removed is fine too. But, other than that, if people follow the guidelines for posting then the inconvenience is not important. It’s as if clicking the mouse to move on to something else was a major inconvenience.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

Good post.

-- Still clinging to my guns and religion.

thank you russel :
its thinking ( and expressing ) like this ,
that makes the difference to me .
i love woodworking !
i love knowing people that are interesting .
i’ve had enough control .
i want more freedom.
i greet some one politely , and get to know them ,
based on who they are , not how they admire me .
woodworking is the marketplace ,
people are the goods ,
sharing is the point

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

i agree …its all good ….to one person or another

-- For free woodworking video tutorials and contests, check out Woodworking with Thomas MacDonald & Friends at http://www.mlwwoodworking.com/index.html

Russel, good post and well said !!

-- Don S.E. OK

WELL said. Inclusion and tolerance is what this country is all about. Great post on such an important date as we in the USA celebrate freedom. I’m brand new to this site and loving it. But I do know how to click next!

As for my use of the word “tolerance”. Please don’t mistake it for the seemingly politically correct term being used by the most IN-tolerant group of folks . . . . . . . . . nope . . . . . I digress . . . . not the right forum. (Slapping hands as they type!)

Happy 4th of July citizens of the United States of America!!

Good post, what we don’t like is only a click away
Happy Independence Day to all you fine people

-- Occie down in Costa Rica. come down and see us some time. I'll keep the light on for you Occiegilliam@yahoo.com

Well said!!!

-- Scott NM,http://www.shangrilawoodworks.com

Russel, this is a good post. I have always agreed with the philosophy that you are presenting here. Whether it be comments or projects I do not have any problem with the number of posts that any one individual adds, as long as it meets the posting criteria. In general the new members, when they first arrive, will have a backlog of projects to be posted. Let them post. They are enthusiastic about showing their work and sharing these projects with the rest of us.

As Scott said this is an open and friendly place. Let’s keep it that way.

Just my 2 cents worth.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

I just posted this on the other page and I’ll include it here:

I’m kind of a newbie, since I’m still 20 days short of a year, so I leave decisions like this to the ones who have made this site what it is. I have on a couple of occasions been guilty of posting 3 or 4 projects in a day. Just seems like I get around to shooting them a few at a time, not that I planned it that way.

Here’s my two cents worth: I really like this site just as it is. Try to find another site with this much expertise available to answer questions, point out areas for improvement and in general, just encourage one another. No site is perfect, including LJs, but it’s by far the best location on the web and I applaud all of you who have made it that way.

To each and every one of you, have a great Fourth. To each of you who have served our country, thanks for making it possible.

-- Gary, Huntsville. May you live as long as you want and not want as long as you live.

Well said.
Now, let’s hope those who want to limit what others do take the hint.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

Great post, Russel. There is enough control in my life, I certainly don’t need it in a forum to which I belong for its enjoyment and knowledge value. Too many “I know what’s best for you and by God, you’re going to do it” people out there already!

Jim

Great post!!!!!!!!!!! It never ceases to amaze me how people can join a site that is better than free,(you don’t have to pay for being a member and don’t have to buy anything so to me that’s better than free) and then complain about it because they don’t have a sense of humor and I guess they think everyone else shouldn’t. They only make one item a year and think everyone else should only make one (or maybe they make more but are ashamed of them). I could go on and on but you get the idea. Come on people and quit your bitching!!!!!!!!!!!

-- BUILT TO LAST WOODWORKS, West Blocton, Alabama

”People should be stopped from greetings newcomers. People should be stopped from commenting on older projects.”

Russel, that wasn’t the point or the intent, let me clarify.

No one wants to stop people from welcoming new members, fact is that is one of the nicest things about LJ.
The issue is why welcome someone who has been here for a month or more or that has been here longer than you have, “you” being in the generic sense.

It is like welcoming a new in-law to the family a month after they have arrived. If you didn’t welcome them to start with they aren’t going to feel any more welcome with a belated greeting.

As for commenting on older posts that isn’t the point at all.
Commenting on someones project isn’t a problem no matter how long ago it was posted.
The problem comes when someone dredges up an old post that simply asked a question, and received an answer. I have seen this on a post that was 785 days old, really what was the point? Or someone posted about a sale months ago and now someone replies to say the link is dead, is there another link.
Seriously now, that sort of thing would not happen if people would simply look at the date of the original post.

It isn’t a matter of being inconvenienced on occasion, the problem is being inconvenienced every day by the same people that force everyone to wade through pages of nonsense just to see if anything new has been posted. I couldn’t care less how many posts someone makes or how many jokes are told( I like that, corn pone and all) all I’m saying is, if you are going to welcome month old members then how about doing it via PM and keep from cluttering up the front page.

I don’t want to sound crass nor disrespectful but I don’t think that is too much to ask of the few serial greeters to be considerate of the other 10,000 members and look at the date someone joined and use the PM feature to welcome them if they have been here more than a week.

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I commented on the other post that this one was directed at, and I will tell you, I’m fine with people posting humor and posting every project they make if that’s what they want to do, but if there is a way to do it that would work better for other members too, then great. Even though it is a free site, there is no harm in asking, and if Martin has time, he can work on it. Or not. That’s up to him. I do believe in the old saying “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”, but if there is an obviously better way, then I’m also for change. I see a lot of comments that make me think some people are against change no matter how much sense it makes, or just to spite those who asked for the change. It was really hard not to single out some people that posted here because their comments here look just like their comments on the coffee lounge forum topic, not wanting to change even if it didn’t affect them.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

Read and look at the ones you want, ignore the ones you don’t want. Easy.

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

Well stated point of view!! Inconvenience is part of life as well as change. How we deal with it is the important thing. Rick

-- If at first you don't succeed...Don't try skydiving

I could not of said it any better myself. Thank you Russell!

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

people should be stopped if they live in Aphganistan,Nigeria, Congo, Pakistan, Euphoqueastandingmanogram and come free

but here

everyone counts

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

some threads sound like women

and most wome suck at this trade

not all women

just most

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

and for all you bible thumpers out there

Joseph was the carpenter

Mary was the mother

and Jesus….........knew who the %$#@ was who

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

Very intelligent post Russel!

Somebody beat me to it. Tolerance is the word. This is a free and open site. Almost anything goes so long as it is related to woodworking and within the boundaries set by the posting rules. Change is Obama’s battlecry. I am all for it. But change to accomodate the whim of a particular person or group. No way! Better to leave it the way it is.

This is a “one size fits all” site. If you find it too loose, go find your own tailor.

Rico

-- "Real jocks do it on a bench"

You said it much better than I ever could.

Yup . . . you said it Russel.

-- The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them

I agree Russel I,m still pretty new here about two months our more but that is one of the raise I joined because of the people here and the fact that were all adults here and we act that way.

You said it brother. Live and let live is my philosophy.

-- There is no such thing as a mistake. Its called a design modification Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

I agree 100%

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever