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Blog entry by Ron Aylor posted 04-13-2018 03:01 PM 1158 reads 1 time favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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The Want -
 
For years I have been resawing stock with a rip cut handsaw … both hardwoods …
 

 
… and softwoods.
 

 
Although this has proven successful, I have always wanted to add a frame saw to my arsenal, for this purpose. I have hesitated, up to now, for the sole reason of blade attachment. I have seen many different methods using tubular steel with inset bolts for blade tension, but I do not have the capacity to work with metal.
 
I recently obtained a copy of TOOLS: Working Wood in Eighteenth-Century America  by James Gaynor and Nancy Hagedorn, from the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation, Williamsburg, Virginia.
 

 
So … armed with this tome and some nice clear cherry stock …
 

 
… and exerting a bit of effort …
 
               
 
… I think I might finally get my frame saw. For you see, pictured on page 85, is an extant eighteenth-century frame saw with an all wood blade attachment.
 

 
Wish me luck! Thanks for looking, more to come. As always, all comments and/or questions welcomed.
 
Follow my progress with the links below.
Eighteenth-Century Frame Saw #1: The Want
Eighteenth-Century Frame Saw #2: Handles
Eighteenth-Century Frame Saw #3: Cart Before the Horse
Eighteenth-Century Frame Saw #4: Side Rails and a Test Drive
 

 



15 comments so far

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Dave Polaschek

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#1 posted 04-13-2018 03:09 PM

I can’t think of any reason an all-wood attachment wouldn’t work for a frame saw, though it may be you can’t get as much blade tension as you would with metal, and therefore you’ll either need a thicker blade, or will get a little more wobble and wander while resawing. Though I can’t imagine it would be any worse than using a panel saw.

Be interesting to see how it works.

-- Dave - Minneapolis

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ElroyD

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#2 posted 04-13-2018 03:14 PM

That is such a great book! I need to buy another copy, as my loaned out copy never came back home. I’m looking forwards to seeing how this turns out. I’ve been mulling over buying the frame saw kit from Blackburn tools that includes the blade and hardware.

-- Elroy

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Ron Aylor

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#3 posted 04-13-2018 03:24 PM



I can’t think of any reason an all-wood attachment wouldn’t work for a frame saw, though it may be you can’t get as much blade tension as you would with metal, and therefore you’ll either need a thicker blade, or will get a little more wobble and wander while resawing. Though I can’t imagine it would be any worse than using a panel saw.

Be interesting to see how it works.

- Dave Polaschek


Thanks, Dave. We’ll see!


That is such a great book! I need to buy another copy, as my loaned out copy never came back home. I’m looking forwards to seeing how this turns out. I’ve been mulling over buying the frame saw kit from Blackburn tools that includes the blade and hardware.

- ElroyD


Yes, Elroy, this is a great book. Sorry you lost yours. The saw kit from Blackburn Tools is that very same tubular steel attachment I want to avoid.

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#4 posted 04-13-2018 04:33 PM

I look forward to seeing how this works out.

Are you buying a blade made for frame saw, cutting up a bandsaw blade, or doing something else?

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Ron Aylor

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#5 posted 04-13-2018 07:07 PM



I look forward to seeing how this works out.

Are you buying a blade made for frame saw, cutting up a bandsaw blade, or doing something else?

- Mr_Pink


Thanks. I bought a 1-1/2” x 700mm frame saw blade.

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HokieKen

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#6 posted 04-13-2018 07:07 PM

How about one of these next Ron… I bet you could do it and I would LOVE to see it :-))) Would make resawing much easier too ;-P

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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Ron Aylor

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#7 posted 04-13-2018 07:11 PM



How about one of these next Ron… I bet you could do it and I would LOVE to see it :-))) Would make resawing much easier too ;-P

- HokieKen


I’ve actually thought about that, Kenny. I have also been giving some thought about building a foot powered table saw.

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HokieKen

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#8 posted 04-13-2018 07:14 PM

As a hybrid worker Ron, I gotta say, if I had a choice between a bandsaw and tablesaw, I’d go with the bandsaw. Ripping with a handsaw isn’t exactly fun in my book… but, resawing with a handsaw has to just plain suck! Not that I would know firsthand, I’m far too lazy for that ;-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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Ron Aylor

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#9 posted 04-13-2018 07:19 PM



As a hybrid worker Ron, I gotta say, if I had a choice between a bandsaw and tablesaw, I’d go with the bandsaw. Ripping with a handsaw isn’t exactly fun in my book… but, resawing with a handsaw has to just plain suck! Not that I would know firsthand, I’m far too lazy for that ;-)

- HokieKen


My to-do list gets longer and longer. WHAT? Resawing with a handsaw is fun! Especially when resawing hickory … LOL!

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Dan Wolfgang

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#10 posted 04-13-2018 10:19 PM

Hey Ron—did you want to have wood support and tensioning just so you could make it yourself? Why not just get one of the Blackburn kits? Cost? Just wondering.

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Ron Aylor

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#11 posted 04-13-2018 11:40 PM


Hey Ron—did you want to have wood support and tensioning just so you could make it yourself? Why not just get one of the Blackburn kits? Cost? Just wondering.

- Dan Wolfgang


Yes, Dan, I want it to be all wood support and tensioning. The cost is inconsequential … I just want to make it myself, with the tools I have on hand. ... just to see if it can be done!

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swirt

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#12 posted 04-14-2018 01:26 AM

Ron I am working on a frame saw at the moment too. Hoping to finish it this weekend. I haven’t published it yet. but I’ll share with you in a DM what I am doing for the hardware.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Ron Aylor

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#13 posted 04-14-2018 03:14 PM



Ron I am working on a frame saw at the moment too. Hoping to finish it this weekend. I haven t published it yet. but I ll share with you in a DM what I am doing for the hardware.

- swirt


Thanks. I look forward to seeing your version.

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Kelster58

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#14 posted 04-16-2018 01:32 AM

Always amazes me to see what can be done by hand….I’m hooked on electrons…...You do great work!

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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Ron Aylor

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#15 posted 04-16-2018 10:44 AM



Always amazes me to see what can be done by hand….I m hooked on electrons…...You do great work!

- Kelster58


Thanks, Kelly. I think I’m allergic to electrons … LOL!

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