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"Green Room" Built In" #1: Frustrated? Marry an Architect

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Blog entry by RichClark posted 01-25-2009 11:01 AM 1075 reads 0 times favorited 4 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Ok.. here goes

We have a big addition to our house.. “the Green Room” Our house is kinda old (build in early 1920’)
and the previous owners put a pool in (hoot) and then build a goofie kinda “sun Room” to get to the pool
and they painted it a dark “forrest green” thus its name.

The room is not “flush” with the existing front or back of the original house, it juts in a few feet on each side, about 4 or so in the back and about 8 in the front. (good thing about married to and architect).Anyway that front jog in and the big porch she wanted, caused an offset of about 20’ to a new 2 car garage we added on to the house, The new garage is about 44×24 and my shop is allowed to the left of it.. It can “expand to the whole garage” If the project is “sufficient to the “one that must be obeyed”

Anyway back to the green room.. Its about 22×17 and I have a wall that is 21.7’ that needs a hug. So I am going to build a “Built In” that will wrap a bit from a french door casing 37” to the long run then turn back 69” and wrap around a build out for the chimney that is 15×63” (that is gonna be a guest bed pull down type)

The start of this is coming up with the plan and arguing. ( or agreeing, it depends) She can crank out a house in a day or so, I am like “design the fricking cabinets and let me get going!” and she is like way too busy until I get this thing from Google, its called “sketchup” and Its pretty cool and will so “Piss you off using it” but I sat down today and made myself learn it, but it really is crawl, walk, run stuff.. I measured out the room and drew it to scale (the part I care about) and I said to myself ” I want the low case to be the LCD TV area and decided that 5’ x 2’ or so was gonna cover it. I started drawing. They Site you get the Softwate from has a lot of tutorials and there is a lot of other folks junk to look at (BTW this SW is “FREE”). Anyway.. Its painful but once ya do something one time.. Like lay out a Panel and set up in 3d with the Dado’s your gonna cut in it.. Ya can select it and copy it and “FLIP” it and ya done. I see Stuff POSTED, a lot of “done” junk, I wish there was a Video of them doing it. Here is a link I hope gets you to the “sketchup” I am working on. Ill try to keep it updated, But pay for toys, work gets in the way…

See if this works – http://idisk.mac.com/richclark-Public?view=web
Ill put updates there as I go so that you can see my progress over time. I’ll try to write it up when I finish and how long I took me to do each time I sit and design. I’m a Unix engineer (run really complex unix computers for the DOD) and my brain is not wrapping around this program very well. (I could draw it faster! but I am told If I get past the pain this tool is the way to go. So I am gonna document it here and for the JOCKS and maybe we’ll all figure it out together! If someone uses it Please Email me and tell me how to FRIGGEN align some thing I make on center with two points! It took me 45 minutes to move and draw lines for reference and MOVE and redraw and MOVE .. etc to get the top of the case centered! (Maybe I’m Just getting too old).

Then the Dust Flies!

Rich

Rich

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!



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Thos. Angle

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#1 posted 01-25-2009 04:04 PM

We have several members who are experts with SketchUp. They are usually good for questions about its use. I use it but I’m not that good with it.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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ShawnAllen

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#2 posted 01-25-2009 06:03 PM

Lots of youtube videos for sketchup. As with any 3d application (my paying gig), you only have to learn the stuff you need to know now, not the entire app.

Things that might be useful to get a handle on sooner (similiar to word processing in some ways):
1. moving things around relative to other things (align, duplicate, mirror, scale, measure)
2. moving yourself around relative to other things (center view on X-Y-Z)
3. object properties (sometimes called attributes)

Google SU has a couple intro videos that should help. From what I recall (SU is not my primary 3d app) it’s “easy” to select faces/edges and extrude. Chances are really good that trying to model 3D the same way you work as a woodworker will prove frustrating – try to think instead of what you are trying to do – instead of subtracting volume for rabbets/mortises, it’s easier to just extrude a profile with the right shape.

And talk to the local SU experts :)

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ChicoWoodnut

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#3 posted 01-25-2009 06:16 PM

Hi rich,

A lot of us here use sketchup. From looking at your model I think you are getting a good start.

1. You are making the parts as components.
2, You are re-using the components for identical parts.

That is a big part of the software.

were you trying to center the case top on the wall? Let me know and I’ll try to help you (if Dave doesn’t find you first)

:wq

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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RichClark

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#4 posted 02-14-2009 03:04 AM

I am offsetting it from the size I want the “office” area that will be towards the right hand side. I did the tutorial in woodworking magazine and I am getting better at not “cutting” out stuff in 3d and getting the profiles I want in 2d then pulling them out.. so this is kinda cool its just backwards to how I think.. My wife thinks sketchup is a joke.. but she uses 2 monitors and looks like she is playing a piano when she is running Autocad… She did a dimensioned design of my “assembly” table that I painstakingly drew up in sketchup in about 3-4 minutes with the offsets of the 3/4 Mdf dimensioned and everything. She is a god send..

Need to find time for us to argue out a design and get her to draw it up and I would prefer that for something
of this scale.

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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