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Hand tool tips and tricks #16: Dealing with a Bad End Vise, the Quick and Dirty Way

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Blog entry by RGtools posted 04-04-2013 01:12 PM 1153 reads 1 time favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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When planing across the grain your end vise should still hold…mine does not. The vise was a freebie from my Grandfather and the machining is very sloppy, do not buy a vise like this, it will irritate you immensely.

But if you happen to have one, and your work keeps popping out of your dogs, two finish nails can solve your problem. Just make sure they are low enough to avoid your plane blade.

Sometimes having an ugly bench is a great thing.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan



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Don W

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#1 posted 04-04-2013 01:47 PM

use a screw! easier to get out!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#2 posted 04-04-2013 03:25 PM

Maybe another photo is needed here, but what are you nailing to, the vise chop or the bench?

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#3 posted 04-04-2013 04:02 PM

Screws work well, but they take longer and they can mar your work (depending on the screw type). That’s not to say they don’t do an awesome job.

Right in the bench Brandon, two nails, one on the front end one on the back, I will add pictures though to make it more clear. what is being done here,

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#4 posted 04-04-2013 04:07 PM

I got you. So you have something on all four sides of the wood keeping it in place, right?

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#5 posted 04-04-2013 04:16 PM

Ryan, are you using wooden dogs? If so you should try some of the Veritas brass dogs. They are very grippy and work great. Worth the money I think.

I actually did a review on them here: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3246

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#6 posted 04-04-2013 06:11 PM

Mauricio, I actually use the brass dogs and am a fan. The issue is the slop in my vise loses grip on my work unless I crank down like a guerrilla…this of course deforms your work and does not help when trying to plane things flat.

Brandon, the set up is as follows: Two dogs gripping the end grain, nails on the exit side of the planing stroke to prevent the peice being pulled from the dogs. Nothing needed to restrain movement in the return direction. This set up is nice when you have a lot of similar width and length components to work through (such as drawer stock).

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#7 posted 04-09-2013 02:18 PM

Not an attempt to discredit your tip but i am a practitioner of this method. I have a thin batten that i screw to the table i use as a bench. It works well for me.

Ryan do you run into a lot of stalwart rebel fighters up there in the Pacific northwest??

-- ~Tony

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#8 posted 04-09-2013 04:08 PM

I did not think about the batten…it has crossed my mind for several times but for some reason I never tried it. Alright, I will give that a try.

Rebel Fighters? Please clarify for this sheltered soul.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#9 posted 04-09-2013 04:13 PM

“…I crank down like a guerrilla…”

Just busting nuts.

-- ~Tony

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