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Handplanes #6: #7: confused? - good!

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Blog entry by PurpLev posted 06-06-2012 10:17 PM 6102 reads 1 time favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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So this is Post #6 in this series, but it’s about the #7…

Still confused… oh boy. I guess I could rearrange the posts on this series to match up with the plane numbers, but that means that I’d have to post 110 posts in this series if I ever want to mention the Stanley 110 plane… maybe I’ll just keep it simple and as is :)

This post is about the #7 hand plane (Stanley #7) which is a jointer plane. it is the longest of the more popular hand plane (aside for the #8 which is heavier and seems less popular because of it’s added weight) and is used to joint edges flat and perpendicular to faces of boards, and to plane boards and panels flat.

The longer bed of the jointer plane gives it a better reference when planing boards so that it isn’t affected by bumps and valleys as much as the smaller planes that sort of ride up and down on those high/low spots and by not being as sensitive to those it remains flat and takes off the high spots more evenly resulting in a flat surface over all.

They say Luck comes to those who wait… and I’ve waited for a while now for a jointer plane while using a smaller #6 hand plane which worked OK for me, albeit with less of a bed length to register flatness against, but I finally found the affordable Stanley #7 jointer plane for me and snagged it for $15 off of eBay.

I must say it arrived packed a little too well (if only we had these problems more often):

inside, was our subject of interest:

It was filthy, the back handle is broken like 90% of these hand planes, and the metal is somewhat rusty – not too bad. the pictures on eBay were pretty horrible, but I could make 2 things – broken wooden handle that is fixable, and metal did not have any signs of pitting/welding/breakage – a perfect candidate for restoration. it was dirty, and the bidding was low, and I assume because of he poor picture quality the auction did not get much attention – to my delight. someone did outbid my $10 initial offer, but nobody wanted to pay more than $15 for this – which was very good for me.

So, how do you grow a handplane? you plant it in a planter of course. add some warm water with electricity conducting solution, add some 12v power, and wait patiently:

While the plane body was bathing in electrolysis I soaked the smaller parts in evapo-rust over night and the result was quite pleasing:

There were still a few rust spots that I scraped off, and there are still a few that I might give it a 2nd treatment, but for now, it is good – next I’ll sharpen the blade, and give it the normal tune up. but I’m pleased with the find.

For a while there I was using a #6 for jointing as it was my largest, and always wondered how much bigger the #7 is. When I first received it, it didn’t seem that much bigger, but putting them cheek to cheek there is some noticeable difference:

While at it, we took a family photo (block,4,5,6,7):

I was concerned that a #7 won’t fit in my tool cabinet for length reasons, but as it is, it just barely fits in with 1/2” to space – PERFECT. I will have to reorganize the planes storage area (about time) to make room for all of them properly. but for now I think I’m done looking at handplanes, have all those I ‘need’.

Thanks for reading,
Peace.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.



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ShaneA

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#1 posted 06-06-2012 10:24 PM

Coming along nicely. Great price on that. Did you make the tote for the #6, and if so are you going to use the same wood on the #7? Maple I am guessing?

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#2 posted 06-06-2012 10:27 PM

nice find, and treatment. are you going to put in a new blade?

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PurpLev

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#3 posted 06-06-2012 10:27 PM

Thanks Shane, yes I did make the tote for the #6, but as much as I love that maple, I think it’s too light for a handplane (although as far as shape its the most comfortable one I have). Now that I have the ‘set’ I am thinking of making a matching set of totes and knobs for all of them from a single board (or at least matching material) and shape the totes to my liking while at it…. but not a necessity so much so, that for now I’m going to leave the broken handle on the #7 on it.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 06-06-2012 10:30 PM

Aaron – thanks. and I am planning on using the Sweatheart blade that came with the plane. unless it really performs poorly (which I doubt it will). my budget is limited and had to wait for a #7 at the mentioned price to even be able to afford it- it feel awkward spending on a blade (yes a good one) more than I did on the entire plane.

FYI, I am using the factory blades on all of my planes ,and have yet come to a point I felt I needed anything better. blades are alway sharp and perform superbly.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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ShaneA

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#5 posted 06-06-2012 10:39 PM

Umm, if you dont want that sw blade, I would gladly take it off your hands. : ) I am a sucker for rosewood, but having said that, there is never a reason why figured maple isnt a great option. LN uses it in saws. Walnut, cherry, bubinga, cocobola and many others make attractive options. You will have to post when you get them all matcing.

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eddie

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#6 posted 06-06-2012 10:44 PM

you got them looking good , i just got a couple of planes off ebay that need to be cleaned up aboult how long did you leave them in the electrolysis. dose it hurt if you left them in over nite

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#7 posted 06-06-2012 11:12 PM

Shane thats a good point, maybe I’m thinking it’s too light because the front knob is dark (original) maybe if they match it’ll look more pleasing…. food for thought (good thing I have plenty of time before this project will see the light of day :) )

eddie – thanks. electrolysis can stay as long as you leave it on – at some point it’ll just not have any more rust/oxidation to pull from the rusty part and nothing will happen in the solution… so you can leave it for a long time with no harm. I left it in for ~5 hours total. Keep in mind that electrolysis produces oxygen and nitrogen into the air – so make sure you do it in a well ventilated area, with no sparks/pilot lights around ;)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Jamie Speirs

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#8 posted 06-06-2012 11:12 PM

but for now I think I’m done looking at handplanes, have all those I ‘need’.

Now that is some statement. LoL

The No7 is a wonderful plane the balance is great

It also is a nice length for clamping in the vice for

fine work

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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PurpLev

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#9 posted 06-06-2012 11:17 PM

ha, thanks Jamie – I’m actually good with my statements. was only looking at planes once in a while waiting for that #7. did not spend any $$$ last year on tools at all. nor this year. I do not say much, but when I do – I mean it.

clamping the 7 in the vise is a great idea – thanks for the reminder :)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Gerry

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#10 posted 06-06-2012 11:40 PM

Nice find, Sharon! You’ve given me the incentive to look here and in Phoenix for something similar! BTW, what is the mix of your electricity conducting solution?

Gerry

-- -Gerry, Hereford, AZ ” A really good woodworker knows how the hide his / her mistakes.”

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CharlieM1958

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#11 posted 06-06-2012 11:58 PM

Great find at that price! You did the smart thing…. look for an ugly duckling, but one that has all the major parts and no broken metal. Pretty much everything else is fixable.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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eddie

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#12 posted 06-06-2012 11:59 PM

thank for thet heads up on the electrolysis PurpLev will do it out side

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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PurpLev

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#13 posted 06-07-2012 01:40 AM

Thank you for the comments.

Gerry, when I was taking chemistry we simply used high salt content in the water for electrolysis, but for removing rust everything that I found suggested using washing-soda – which is what I used for this. if you can’t find washing soda locally (I couldn’t) you can make it – I blogged about it here when I restored my lathe

Charlie around here we call it ‘being smaaat’ ;)

eddie – I did it in my garage and just kept the door open for fresh air to circulate. doing it outside will also work. I personally like to keep it monitored. something that might happen is if the electrode will get caked and covered with rust, then it will not conduct electricity anymore (or not as well) and the speed of the process will reduce (or stop) at which point you can take the electrode out (after stopping power to it) and remove the rust from it using a wire brush, or replace it with another electrode.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#14 posted 06-07-2012 05:01 AM

Sharon: I used pvc pipe with a cap on each end to hold a plane with evapo-rust. It did a great job with having to get a big container and a lot of materials.

Nice job.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#15 posted 06-07-2012 05:10 AM

great score … congrats with the new toy

Dennis

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