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Life as an Amateur Woodworker #79: Never again!

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Blog entry by PhilBello posted 06-09-2016 11:43 AM 1213 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 78: Murphy has come to visit! Part 79 of Life as an Amateur Woodworker series Part 80: A Quickie! »

I finally finished the Dining room suite last weekend:

I thought that this would have been an easy project that I would have flipped off in a week or two at the most, but it took much longer. Buying somebody else work and then finishing it to your standard´is all very well and good if you know the other person has done a good job, but in this case…

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we will have any problems with it coming apart, but the method of construction leaves a lot to be desired, personally I hate the use of nails in any furniture, and I like tidy joints, I guess because they were doing mass production, and painting the furniture rather than leaving the grain showing, which I now know was to cover a multitude of sins.

It says a lot about the appreciation of wood down here in Colombia, that they will take solid oak and paint it, sacrilege!!!

In the furniture’s favour, it is solid oak, and a nice grain, there are defects, which is probably why it is used in this way, but nothing I couldn’t work with, the fact they used nails was a pain, I managed to recess the big ones, and fill over the heads, the fine pin nails I left, and after three coats of oak stain/varnish they blended into the background, and to be honest, even I don’t notice them, and I thought it would bug the hell out of me!

I didn’t enjoy this project, and I am pretty sure that I won’t go this route again in the future, but for approx US$250 including all materials, I have a solid oak suite, that should see me out!

I am taking a break from woodwork projects for a while, I have just bought myself my first stick welding kit, as most will be repair work outside, therefore I am going to take some time to learn to do this correctly.

I have also bought myself a camera drone to do some aerial photography here, why?...Because I am a big kid, and like gadgets!!! :D

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright



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#1 posted 06-09-2016 03:43 PM

Hey Phil,

Came out great! Murphy is a tough task master, LOL! Playing is good! Time invested and lesson learned. And you have a nice design?

Going to see a client ,in Mankato.

Hope you are feeling better.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#2 posted 06-09-2016 05:46 PM

Thanks Tom, I feel fine in myself, unfortunately my back seems to be getting worse, I have a horrible feeling that I will end up under the knife!... Have a safe journey.

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#3 posted 06-10-2016 12:30 AM

Phil,

Back home! Being “under the knife” would be a horrible feeling. Hope it does not come to that.

What will you be welding? Why stick over map welding?

One ove my first posts is a desk and then a chair that I rehabbed. i think the end product makes this your project. ????? Your Mum…LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#4 posted 06-10-2016 01:13 AM



Phil,

Back home! Being “under the knife” would be a horrible feeling. Hope it does not come to that.

What will you be welding? Why stick over map welding?

One ove my first posts is a desk and then a chair that I rehabbed. i think the end product makes this your project. ????? Your Mum…LOL!

- DocSavage45

No sorry Mum, we’ll have to disagree on this one, definitely not a project, I just did the finish, I can’t claim the build!!!

Like you, I hope it does not come to the knife, I first had back trouble in my 20’s, and was offered this procedure, but refused it, because it would have meant the end of my career in the Police, I learned to control the pain with exercises, unfortunately the Physio here has done damage that don’t respond to my exercises. I was hoping the spinal block injection would sort it, but it just changed how and when I feel the pain. I am back at the Pain Clinic in two weeks, and then back to my Specialist in three, by which time I hope they will have an answer one way or the other.

Welding… well there are two reasons I have gone for stick, firstly because I have been glued to YT, and the consensus seems to be that if you intend to weld outside, stick is the way to go, and secondly budget, I got some nasty looks when I said I was going to spend ‘my’ pension on a welder…lol so decided that the budget had to be a consideration, just to keep the peace. We are totally 110v here, although I do have 220v on my generator, the welder is an Indura, dual voltage, so I will start on the 110v, and hope I don’t keep blowing the fuse. I will mainly be using it for repairs on metalwork around the grounds, but people keep telling me that once I get the bug… ha ha :D

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#5 posted 06-11-2016 06:07 PM

Hey Phil. Looks like you were busy.
Painting OAK is sacralidge !
I just finished kitchen in Feb. PAINTED Mahogany. I wasnt happy doing it !
It turned out cheaper than buying new lumber, building and then painting !
And the kitchen looks great !
As far as welding. I grew up welding with sticks. I am confident that what I do with sticks will hold.
I have access to MIG now, there is a difference. Each have their own advantages and disadvantages.
My last repair was underneath an old trailer. Frame was rusted out and i wanted to PATCH it. MIG was used. NOT a good idea. If you work with NEW , clean, iron. MIG.
If you want to try to weld different metals together, patch, outside in WIND, STICKS
This is just my opinion.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#6 posted 06-11-2016 07:13 PM


Hey Phil. Looks like you were busy.
Painting OAK is sacralidge !
I just finished kitchen in Feb. PAINTED Mahogany. I wasnt happy doing it !
It turned out cheaper than buying new lumber, building and then painting !
And the kitchen looks great !
As far as welding. I grew up welding with sticks. I am confident that what I do with sticks will hold.
I have access to MIG now, there is a difference. Each have their own advantages and disadvantages.
My last repair was underneath an old trailer. Frame was rusted out and i wanted to PATCH it. MIG was used. NOT a good idea. If you work with NEW , clean, iron. MIG.
If you want to try to weld different metals together, patch, outside in WIND, STICKS
This is just my opinion.

- canadianchips

Hi canadianchips, this welding lark is definitely going to test my patience, I set it up yesterday, ground the metal clean, and thought I would practise running beads, well I would have done if I could have struck an arc, strike it like a match they say, I’m getting the flashes, but no arc, I now have metal covered in strike spots!!!!
Because I am on 110v I am using 6011 rods, they are Homecenter’s own label, but in small print have Lincoln, so I presume they are good.
I then spent some time researching, and I am hoping it is just a matter of practise, the other option is a drop in voltage. I took a cable from the house, above ground and down to a fusebox in the workshop, where I have one fuse for lights and a 20A fuse for the sockets. I am wondering if because the power is going 30m from the main fuse box, (which here is on a post in the road) to the house fusebox, and then 20m back up the garden to the workshop fusebox. If that is the problem, then I might have to get the power company to run a new cable from the main fusebox direct into the workshop, about 10m, in which case I might consider 220v, but as it would only be for the welder, it might not be worth it.
Oh well, back to practise!! :D

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#7 posted 06-11-2016 07:28 PM

Phil,

Not sure how the metric system is involved but amps and wire size will determine the situation. Is the wiring from the house to your shop calculated for distace and current draw?

FYI:

http://www.cerrowire.com/files/file/voltagedrop.pdf

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#8 posted 06-11-2016 08:14 PM

My 110 volt stick welder is finicky.
I can only burn 5 /64 rods. (Very tiny)
Mine goes to 100 amp. The peak in my welder is at 60 amp. Therefore cranking it up amps really doesnt help.
My 220 volt welder is much nicer. Average amps i use in that one is 80-120 amp, depending on thickness of metal .
Advantage of MIG. 110 volt supply , Easier to set !Especially for thinner metal.
Not sure what you are welding…..try looking for a 7014 very thin rod.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#9 posted 06-11-2016 09:00 PM

I like em unique design ,looks great Phil. I know what you mean about getting burned out ,I’m working on a pie crust table I started years ago and made up my mind I either had to through it away or finish it .Feeling I had too many hours in it to though away I’m going back at it,it’s been a challenge since it’s my first real involved carving piece so there’s hours upon hours of just sanding to get clean sharp details.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#10 posted 06-11-2016 09:55 PM

Tom, you should know by now…This is Colombia!!! going off your chart it looks as if I am about 5m or 16ft too far away for the No.10 cable used. It doesn’t make any difference with any of the other tools used, I haven’t noticed any lag in use, but it may be the problem with this. Current and draw never even entered the equation when the electrics were installed, and to be honest even at the Suppliers, there is cable for lighting and cable for sockets…period! I would probably have to go to an industrial electricians to get anything else. I thought about trying the generator, but it appears as that is only a 2500w, I can forget that idea. If my luck doesn’t change soon, it looks as if I will have to have the new installation.

Hi canadianchips, my welder goes up to 160amp, which would probably be great if I was using 220v, as I said previously, I thought about having that installed in the workshop, but I have had second thoughts about that, as it would limit me to welding close by. I will try your suggestion, and look for thinner rods, although like everything else here, the options are somewhat limited, at the moment I am just playing with some scrap steel about 1/8” thick. However there are plenty of people welding here, so they obviously work, and I am sure they don’t all have 220v or the correct cabling.

Hi a1Jim thanks, yes, I think now is the time for a break from big woodwork projects, hopefully this welding will give me another option, if I can figure it out! Good luck with the pie crust table, I hope you post some photos when it is done!

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#11 posted 06-12-2016 01:03 AM

My wife said “why does he live there? ” i told here it’s probably the same as people wanting to live in Costa Rica?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#12 posted 06-12-2016 01:10 AM



My wife said “why does he live there? ” i told here it s probably the same as people wanting to live in Costa Rica?

- DocSavage45

Ha! Ha! Corney I know, but the true answer is…Love! My wife is from Medellin, to be honest despite all it’s faults, I love the country and wouldn’t live anywhere else now.

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#13 posted 06-17-2016 11:24 PM

Hi Folks, I just wanted to thank everyone for the welding advise, I couldn’t get the rods recommended, but I was able to get some 6013 5/32”, which I tried this morning, and I was able to strike an arc without any problem, the only problem I did have, was burning through my 1/8” steel, and lots of spatter, but that was probably just because I wasn’t moving, at that point, I was just pleased at getting started.
I have decided that the scraps I have are not wide enough to play with, so I am going to have to go to the scrap yard, and see what I can get hold of.

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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