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Blog entry by PanamaJack posted 07-29-2007 07:43 AM 4112 reads 1 time favorited 22 comments Add to Favorites Watch

To refresh one’s memory check out WayneC’s Blog at: http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/WayneC/blog/1439

This is my first attempt, so keep this in mind. I will only accept criticism to a point and I request that you please forgive any and all, punctuation, grammar or mispellings.

What I believe to be a Corsair Plane I purchase from a gentleman in a Southern Indiana Flea Market for the whopping sum of $3. So if this didn’t work I am not out that much, right?

Anybody ever hear about a Corsair Plane?

Anyway here is was in the shape that I received it: Picture 1

Everything was rusted tight. Nothing outside of the screws that took the handles off turned or moved. I do love the challenge!

Here are some of the parts: Picture 2

Now then. I do not know what the time frame one should leave these items in a little vat of Citric Acid and water at all. Plus I was rather anxious to find what the finished product might be. Anyway I spent only about an hour, maybe less armed with the planer parts, a small container of Citric Acid powder, some 0000 steel wool, a flat screwdriver and my trusty pocket knife.

Wayne: should I have left the parts in the little concoction overnight? I supposed they might disappear if left too long….?

This thing was in really bad shape. I think the bottom of the plane was sat in something like a varnish.

Here the parts fresh out of the vat and dried: Picture 3

I went and got a few of these little cans of Citric Acid in the canning section of a local farm implement store. Just imagine what this stuff does to you stomach! (Orange Juice)

Here’s the final product: Picture 4

What do you think Wayne? I think it did well.

Wayne again I find me thanking you for you little information Blog on how to fix or otherwise renew old tools….Thanks!
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I have located a mail order source for this Citric Acid Powder for those who want to try. Maybe you have found this or another site but here it is: http://www.bulkfoods.com/

The cost is … $12.23 for 5 pound or 25 pounds for $58 and change plus of course shipping. (Over $50 total on items, the shipping is free)

Hope it works for everyone else as well as it has me.

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)



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Dorje

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#1 posted 07-29-2007 10:09 AM

Looks like it really did the trick!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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Thos. Angle

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#2 posted 07-29-2007 12:41 PM

By Golly Panama, I think you did well; with the blog and the plane. Now sharpen her up and make some slick wood. I purchased all my hand planes on E-Bay except 2( I have 12 of 14 but use about 10) I don’t have the price of one of Tom Lie-Nielsen’s beauties in the whole lot. Adam Cherubini(of Popular Woodworking) said a mouthful when he told everyone to buy a $5 flea market special and learn to make it work. By the time you can afford the fancy plane you will have earned it but you’ll be in love with the ones you have and won’t see a need for it.
Panama, this fall take a few minutes and make a run over to Nashville and give My regards to Brown county. I wish I could see the trees again.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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Thos. Angle

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#3 posted 07-29-2007 12:59 PM

Panama, I just read Wayne’s blog that got you going on this. I would highly recomend Garrett Hack’s book on Hand Planes. It is great reference on these essential tools. I’d also recomend going to E-Bay and doing searchs such as wood plane, Stanley Plane, Sargent Plane and hand plane. There are usually 600 to 700 listings under Stanley Plane and more under wood plane. You will see every plane ever made in these listings. I’ve seen several Stanley Dovetail planes go for over $1000. Chute boards complete with the plane will bring $1100 up. However # 4 and 5 Stanley’s are all over the place and bringing $10 up. Same with #78 Stanley’s. You can get a great education for free by looking at the listings and then looking them up. One note; if you’re thinking there is a shortage of hand planes, think again. There are literally millions of them out there and many are in good usable shape.I’ve got Bailey’s and Sargents but Bedrocks are better. They all cut the wood and when properly tuned will do a great job for you. Happy wood working.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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scottb

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#4 posted 07-29-2007 02:23 PM

Imagine what it does to your stomach… and your TEETH. looks like the plane could take it though! Nice…

I haven’t seen any planes going for less than $40 so far – regardless of the condition, except for a few wooden ones that would need new wooden parts, and brand new metal parts, in short it’d be better to take a tip from Philly and start from scratch!

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Karson

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#5 posted 07-29-2007 03:11 PM

Panama. Great find and great recovery to a user. And like Thos said we’d like to see some shavings.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Lee A. Jesberger

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#6 posted 07-29-2007 03:23 PM

Hi Panama,

I don’t know where the concern came from in writting a blog. You did great.

Hard to believe that’s the same plane.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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gizmodyne

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#7 posted 07-29-2007 03:32 PM

I have this same plane and it needs work. Want to swap?

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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PanamaJack

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#8 posted 07-29-2007 03:35 PM

Thos & Karson. This is my next project. _(....see some shavings) I have accumulated about 15 planes to “play with” in the past couple of weeks. All for less than $8 each on the average. I have a whole bunch_ of blades to be sharpened. All of them so dull they couldn’t cut paper let alone wood.

I came up with a ”Firestone” Plane. Anyone heard of that one? (No it doesn’t have radial tread on it.) Seems to be a good one.

Thos, I read Adam’s (PW) article and away I went to find Fleas! I found that inflation hit this year. Also, Thos, thanks a bunch for the heads up on the book. I’ll look it up right away. Nashville is a great place, I’m only 17 miles away from the park. Unfortunately the politics are going rabid over there. They are loosing a lot of the “old retailers” lately. Of course this hasn’t changed the tree color(s).....however is is changing the shape of the downtown “flavor”.

Scottb, I just had to really start looking, then start barganing…Sometimes a really long process. But I didn’t give up. I went back the next day before they had to close up and haul it all back home. It worked, this time.

Thanks to all!

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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PanamaJack

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#9 posted 07-29-2007 03:41 PM

Come on Giz...I’ll send you some of this Citric Acid though!

Thanks Lee!

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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WayneC

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#10 posted 07-29-2007 03:55 PM

Wow. Looks like your off to a good start. I’ve been leaving the parts in the acid just long enough for it to remove the rust. For me it normally takes about 2 hours for it to work.

Also, Michale Dunbar has a good book (out of print) on restoring old tools. There are amazon.com links to this one and Garret Hacks book in my blog entry on handplane related books.

http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/WayneC/blog/675

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Aubster

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#11 posted 07-29-2007 05:41 PM

Wow! Thanks for this post. I have a set of fostner bits that are completly rusted and I was wondering how to clean them. This blog taught me a lot, and I would have never known this was your first blog. Very well done. Good job.

-- A man who moves mountains starts one stone at a time.

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PanamaJack

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#12 posted 07-30-2007 05:38 AM

Thanks Wayne! I just got Dunbar’s book (Thursday-last) via Amazon.

Aubster..It will work on rust….Drill bits or planes.

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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RoyBoy

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#13 posted 07-30-2007 02:59 PM

That looks great – and very good tips! I would have not known where to start… looks like I have another hobby! haha

-- Brian, Alabaster, AL

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oscorner

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#14 posted 07-30-2007 03:04 PM

Nice job on the restoration.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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PanamaJack

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#15 posted 07-30-2007 03:22 PM

Thanks Os and Roy. I’ve started on three more planes more this morning! Wayne told about 2 hours, so I gotta get back to the “brew”.

Again thanks to all!

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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