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Shopsmith Mk V #2: New Year: Looking at integrating the Mark V into my shop...

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Blog entry by NedB posted 01-01-2013 11:00 PM 1992 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Hi folks, Jan 1 and a new year is upon us all.

Awhile back, my Dad received a lightly used Mark V with the bandsaw add-on, plus the assorted tools that came with it from my Uncle. My Dad wanted to ‘get into’ woodworking and putter around the house. Unfortunately he has COPD, and as we all know woodworking creates a Lot of dust… even with decent DC’s etc… so he hasn’t used it much, and doesn’t seem inclined to start using it. I’m not sure when it will be, but I’m going to be getting the Mark V, plus a Shopsmith DC to integrate into my shop. For those who don’t know, I have a 12×20’ shop, which currently is jam packed: I went the other route as I built up my tool set with stand alone TS, bandsaw, jointer, planer, chopsaw, benchtop DP, midi lathe, and two work benches. This winter I’ve been making a lot of cutting boards, and I wound up doing the ‘small shop dance’ quite a bit, juggling the jointer, TS and planer. Question for the Shopsmith experts… I’ve only done a little work with it down at my folks’ place. I only have 240sf of shop space available. For shop planning purposes, am I ‘about right’ in planning on 7’ by about 30” for a space to store the Mark V? Not use, I’m figuring that any use of it will involve bringing it out of the parking place and using it for most operations; drill press, lathe, bandsaw, Horizontal boring, Sanding disc.

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com



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sras

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#1 posted 01-01-2013 11:06 PM

Sounds about right for a minimum space – remember that the table sticks out when you tilt it up for drill press – type operations. I would guess that 7 feet is a minimum.

My shop is a little bigger, but I use mine in a similar way. I just pull one end of mine out from the wall when I need to be at the end of the machine or if I am using larger stock. Quite often it stays against the wall.

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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#2 posted 01-01-2013 11:46 PM

I have a whole shop set up around a SS 510 at my place in AZ (there now) and did a blog about it last year. It may interest you and give you some ideas.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#3 posted 01-02-2013 12:42 AM

Thanks guys, Steve, I’m budgeting space for ‘parking’ only… and judging by Paul’s excellent blog, 8’ would be safer. I will have a bandsaw as well. Plus I just spotted a jointer for not too much $ locally. Now if I could just find a planer add on , I’d be much happier. I have an ailing DW734 that I would like to retire/sell, but won’t until I get another planer. That’s another blog though.

Paul, very cool blog, I’ll be sure and grab ideas from it! My little shop is going to be a hybrid between SS centric and ‘traditional’... I have a TS which I am certain will outdo the SS on most things, but the DP, Lathe, etc… are all things I will happily use.

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

#4 posted 01-02-2013 09:55 AM

My first power tool beside hand held ones was a SS about 29 years ago. Though I now have a tablesaw, mitersaw, and various other major tools, the old SS still is a player amongst them. The biggest role it plays is as a sanding center with the 12” disc and the 6×48 belt sander almost always set up and a drum sander on the end of the belt sander. I also use it as my only DP and wouldn’t have a stand alone one. I gave up in frustration with the SS band saw and replaced it with another name brand stand alone.
The fact that I can use it as a lathe and do so often is another plus.
Space is at a premium here, too, but I would no more think about doing without my SS than I would consider doing without clamps.
I don’t use the jointer attachment, though and if you want to pay for the freight, you can have it with the SS storage bracket.
PM me if you’d like to talk about it.
Don

-- Will trade wife's yarn for tools.

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#5 posted 01-02-2013 01:52 PM

Don, you’d like ‘my’ SS then, it is a very ‘low mileage’ mark V from the late 70’s. My Uncle bought it, made a few things then kept it around ‘just to have’....

I wont’ have the SS for at least a couple of months, my Mother thinks it is ‘free to leave’, not so sure my Father thinks so, though judging by a recent chat. I guess I’m just planning on ‘soon’, but not right away. I appreciate the jointer offer, I’ll think about it once I have my ducks in a row… ie, SS in hand.

I’m really trying to figure out where the heck I’m going to squeeze it into the floor plan.

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

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#6 posted 01-03-2013 09:17 PM

I’ve been doing a bunch of reading on the Shopsmith forums, as well as watching hands online videos on maintenance and what-not, looks like I’ll be doing a tune up on the Smith when I get it up north. Also, since one of the main reasons I want the smith is for the lathe function, I’ll be buying the upgraded tool stand for turning, as well as the G3 Chuck kit. I figure those two things will get me a nicely set up Lathe for about $500 (much cheaper than buying a new unit or a bigger stand-alone lathe than the little Delta Midi I have now)

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

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#7 posted 01-03-2013 09:58 PM

Yeah Ned… if all you want is a lathe, wouldn’t it make sense to put all of your money toward the Lathe you want instead of for other stuff that you really don’t want?

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#8 posted 01-03-2013 10:40 PM

Joe, I’ve wanted a Shopsmith going all the way back to the ‘70s, I just could never afford one. When it came time to set up my shop and buy tools, I went with a Contractor’s saw etc… My Uncle got out of woodworking, and he had the Shopsmith, and gave it to me via my dad. Putting a couple of hundred dollars into a Chuck and a better banjo for the Shopsmith is cheap compared to getting a bigger lathe. I also get the added benefit of a great Drill Press, second bandsaw (albeit a small one, but I can put a decent blade on it and have it for those small cuts I seem to use my current BS for anyway… freeing that one up for Resaw duty).

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

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#9 posted 01-04-2013 01:00 AM

since one of the main reasons I want the smith is for the lathe function...

OK Ned… I based my comment on what you said (above)... Seemed like a lot to buy… just for the Lathe function. LOL

Good luck with it…

I remember way back when I was a kid, I’d see the ShopSmith demo’d at Fairs… Orange Show in San Bernardino and L.A. County fair in Pomona… It was always very impressive and EXPENSIVE!
I’ve always wondered about how convenient it would be to keep changing the setup going from one function to another… Looked like it could get OLD… and tiring… Would that be problem for you? Maybe it’s no big deal… I remember really being impressed with their demos. (way way back then…) LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#10 posted 01-04-2013 01:21 AM

Joe, That’s the $64,000 question isn’t it… will I be able to learn the changeover dance? Probably, because I’ll be going from Lathe to DP primarily. I have a TS, so I probably won’t be using it in TS mode. I am also interested in using it as a disc sander (belt sander too if I can find a used unit on craigslist). Back when I was a teenager I used to hang out at the Maul where my mother worked, and on weekends when the Shopsmith guys were demo’ing I’d sit down at the court and watch for hours. I thought it was so Cool, that ‘one tool’ could do so many things! This was even before the days of Nahm and the NYW!

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

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#11 posted 01-04-2013 01:27 AM

Yes… I’m talking 50’s going into the 60’s… That’s when I drooled over them as I also watched very intently… LOL
... sounds like we did the same thing a few years apart… LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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