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A gestus to our great Mafe

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Blog entry by Napoleon posted 1251 days ago 1106 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Mafe alias “toolmaker” do a great job on LJ figuring out jigs&tools we all can use. He do it in a simple way and explain it so everyone can understand it.

I know he has a big heart for planes. He got at least 70( i have counted them) and more will come.

He treasure them,use them,dont use them,sharping them,tell stories about them,well i could go on but to make it short he simply loves them!

So this evening i found out that some people claime the inventor of the hand plane is among others things a greek ARCHITECT :)

So dear Mafe this fit perfekt with all the things you make :)

WELL DONE.

Who invented here planer and when it happened is quite uncertain. Concepts (1956) have demonstrated shavings in Egyptian coffins, 2 half of the fourth century BC, derived from the Greek colonization of North Africa. How these shavings are obtained, however, is a question because I am from Egyptologist Elin Rand Nielsen, National Museum in Copenhagen, has received verbal information that hugspåner from a cutting ax may sometimes take the form of wood shavings, and the Egyptians knew and used the cut the axes. In addition, the planer requires the use of iron, and the famous Egyptians not to before the Romans came with it much later.

Several authors believe that it was the Greeks who developed planer. When it happened, is not known, but it is clear, however that already for nearly 2000 years ago, the fully developed as we know it today, with a wooden house (wood stick), an iron located in the anterior third of the stick, secured with a wedge (tense up against a cross pin in spånhullet).

It has also found Roman filings with bronzehus from this period, while the earliest iron filings, which I have knowledge, is German, but may never have been used as a tool.

Iron Planes have never been in general use before the end of the 1800s.

Some sources indicate that the Greek legend completely Daedalus (egl. “artist”, but probably just as much “craftsman”, inventor and architect) should be the perpetrator of the planer, but there have to date found no Greek planes of that age. The Greeks did have a name rhykané, which apparently means “wood”, but there are no reappeared archaeologically

-- Boatbuilder&blacksmith



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Bertha

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#1 posted 1251 days ago

A very nice gesture to our friend. I will rub my planes in his honor tonight!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Dennisgrosen

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#2 posted 1251 days ago

that was indeed a fine gesture of you Thomas :-)

thank´s for sharing it with us , just wish it was me who had made it … LOL

take care you old Viking :-)
Dennis

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Div

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#3 posted 1251 days ago

Well done Napoleon! As a fellow lover of planes(rhykenologist) I second your tribute to our Mafe!

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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Bertha

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#4 posted 1251 days ago

For Mads:

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Schwieb

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#5 posted 1251 days ago

I just had to put a photo here too for Div, Mads, and Dennis. These are the first three of the planes that I have cleaned up and still have some work to do on but they were pretty rusty and beat up before I started. Very nice tribute Thomas!!

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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Schwieb

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#6 posted 1251 days ago

Dare I add one more thing that I think we can all relate too???

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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Div

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#7 posted 1251 days ago

Hey Ken, those are looking real good! Love that transitional on the right!

For Mads and Napoleon and Ken and Bertha and everyone:

My last play, I’m off to bed, it is midnight here.

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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Dennisgrosen

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#8 posted 1251 days ago

Bertha , Ken and Div you realy inderstand to make green of envy not having such nice tools .. Droool
a fine gestus to share a unique plane from each of you
one more keyboard destroyd :-(...... well one day …. maybee

Div I most congrats you if this is your last build what a buty to play with and have in the toolbox :-)

Ken that picture´s text is so true in many way´s

take care
Dennis

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swirt

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#9 posted 1251 days ago

WOW Did you build that Div? Beautiful.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Schwieb

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#10 posted 1251 days ago

Div, that is a really beautiful plane

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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stefang

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#11 posted 1251 days ago

Great tribute for a worthy person Napoleon. And a fantastic plane Div. I couldn’t find an Egyptian plane, but I did run across this PDF on ancient Egyptian woodworking with among other pictures, a photo of an ancient Egyptian carpenter’s workshop found in the tomb of an Egyptian official. It shows one worker making a ripping cut on a board, another guy chopping a mortise and a team squaring up some timber. Other pics show just how advanced they were.

http://www.skillspublish.com.au/Workshops%20and%20the%20Palace.pdf

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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mafe

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#12 posted 1250 days ago

Hi Napoleon, Thank you a lot, that was so kind of you!

Here you see an origami Daedalus that I folded some years ago.
I have read about him, and admire him, but I actually called myself Icarus as a nick name, this is his son that don’t really listen his father’s advice.
(Icarus attempt to escape from Crete by means of wings that his father constructed from feathers and wax. He ignored instructions not to fly too close to the sun, and the melting wax caused him to fall to his death.).
You know I have a sensitive heart and a lack of patience as my driving force in life…

I hope I never claimed to be the ‘inventor’... I see myself more as a re thinker and ‘improver’ perhaps…
And yes I do have a passion for those planes, the stories and the feeling of the hands that has used them.

I did know most of the story, but the Egyptian part was new, that the shavings might not have been from planes, but from adze’s, that is interesting. I have been looking at workshop model like the one on the picture, and study the Egyptian furniture with big admiration. I was in Luxor some years ago and this was a meeting with a culture that was so strong, I realized how little we have developed in how long time, and how busy we are trying to put all behind us now.
Latest I have been study the tools and furniture of the Egyptians in Paris, since they have some big collections.

Then we have Rome, the culture, the tools, the achievements, my ohhh. I will never forget my meeting with Rome, I had no doubt that this place was the mother of architecture, and the feeling of the past there was like as if you were there.
Link:
Here two Roman metal planes: http://img23.xooimage.com/views/7/4/c/rabot-romain-36fa22.jpg/

And our friend here on LJ did a lot of study and building:
Old Danish: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/16644
Old Roman: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/8025

Sorry, I can see you got me started… I’ll shut up now, laugh.

Best thoughts,
And a thank you from my heart,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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mafe

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#13 posted 1250 days ago

I think Div visit this place:

WARNING DO NOT PRESS THIS LINK IF YOU HAVE A PASSION FOR HAND PLANES:
http://www.holteyplanes.com/infill-planes-shoulder.html

Am I right?
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Div

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#14 posted 1250 days ago

Mads you are sharp! You know I have very slow computer habits and you got it before I could respond. Any rhykenologist worth his salt should know about Holtey planes. When I first visited his site, I just had to save some photos. They live on my computer as inspiration!

So, Swirt, Dennis & Schwieb,I don’t own this plane, merely a picture of it. Nice to dream about though. A plane like that will set you back several thousand! Swirt, you flatter me, thinking I could build something like that. I wish!

I think for now I won’t tempt with more photos of beautiful planes….

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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Napoleon

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#15 posted 1250 days ago

Thanks everyone for joining in and salut our “toolmaker” :)

Mafe you deserved this salut :)

-- Boatbuilder&blacksmith

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