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The Stuff:
Ridgid 6-1/8” JP0610 jointer-planer

Ridgid R4330 thickness planer w/Wixey Digital Planer Height Readout

Ridgid EB4424 Oscillating Spindle Sander

Bosch 4100 TS w/digital rip fence gauge and Incra 1000SE miter gauge, left and outfeed extensions

Grizzly G0555X 14” BS w/riser kit, Carter King Coil, Carter Ratchet Rod, Cool Blocks, and Wood Slicer blade

Grizzly G0645 Benchtop Mortising Machine

Kreg PRS2000 Router Table
... w/Milwaukee 5625-20 fixed-base router

Ryobi RE180PL plunge router

Jet Performax 16-32 Drum Sander w/Accura conveyor belt

Ridgid MS1065LZ Miter Saw

Craftsman 12” Drill Press w/Rockler fence/table

Harbor Freight 2HP DC w/Wynn 35A Cartridge filter and chip separator

Porter-Cable 4212 dovetail jig
Craftsman Bench Grinder
JDS 750 Air Filtration unit

-- -- Neil

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#1 posted 11-16-2009 12:33 AM

Yeah that would be horrible to have to watch the mrs’ yoga while your doing a glue up. Life is tough. Ok enough of the sarcasm!

I would say that you have an awesome workshop in progress there. Loads of potential. Make sure that the electricians installs lots of outlets, LOTS.

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#2 posted 11-16-2009 12:54 AM

Hey Neil cool shop with some super tools too.

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#3 posted 11-16-2009 12:56 AM

Neil thats a nice shop.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#4 posted 11-16-2009 01:32 AM

It’s worse than that, Chunk. She wants to start TEACHING yoga.

Where she’s looking for walls, I’m kinda’ pushing for windows ;-)

Thanks, Jim and Charles.

-- -- Neil

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Jim Bertelson

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#5 posted 11-16-2009 01:38 AM

That a way to go Neil! Workshop, let it be. There are some tools there that I covet.

This reminds me of those Hubble pictures of star nurseries, you know, luminous objects emerging from the haze of interstellar gas, soon to be bright stars…....out of the clutter a shop is born. Some shops like mine, never lose the clutter, the stars coexist with the haze forever….................(-:

Once that electrician gets the panel in, I am sure you can add whatever else you need to bring those tools REAL POWER now.

I have two of four 220V outlets on the central pillar in my shop, 2 more to go, taking a break to let my wrists and fingers relax, so I thought I’d pick on you. Got the wire run yesterday, aided by my handy-dandy insulated staple gun, much easier and quicker than hammering. The extra two are for unseen future needs. While I am putting it in, I am gonna do it right. Multiple things can be plugged in, because the circuit could handle two at once, but that would never happen anyway… not much reason for two big tools to run in a one man shop. My DC has its own dedicated 220V line, because it will be running while other things are on, natch.

Well back to the man-cave, might as well get the odious tasks done on a day I am on call…............

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#6 posted 11-16-2009 02:34 AM

well doing neil ,
lots of potential here .
after the yoga wall ,
we need work benches and lots of
storage cabs ,
and a dedicated saw stand and drop table .

you are on a great journey ,
and you can just go next door
for a healthy
rabbit food lunch ?

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#7 posted 11-16-2009 02:59 AM

>> She wants to start TEACHING yoga

It’s time to man up Neil! You need to tell her that if she’s going to be teaching Yoga then there has to be rules. Rules man, RULES!

1) No one under 18 yo.
2) No one over 30 yo.
3) No one over 135 lbs.
4) Female only.

Just let me know if there’s anything else I can help with. lol

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#8 posted 11-16-2009 03:15 AM

Jim: picking on me is always time well spent, as is—it seems—wiring your man cave :-)

Quick question, though (and from one who studied EE, it really seems stupid): Are you running 220V because you have things that require 220V, or are you running 220V for your 110/220 things?

Here’s why I ask: it’s my understanding that—for a machine that can happily run at either voltage—the primary advantage to feeding it 220V is that the inherently lower current draw equates to lower line losses between power source and gizmo.

But … on—for example—my DC or my bandsaw—shouldn’t I/we presume (and I can verify this with online AWG calculators) that they’ve factored this in, and that the machine should operate just fine—given an adequately sized 110V circuit??

I seem to recall an electrician once quoting me a BIG $ fig for 220V in my basement. If a 20A 110V dedicated circuit is what Grizzly, for example, wants for my bandsaw, then … anybody know why I’d be better off feeding it 220V?


Maybe, tomorrow, I’ll calc the losses—at the wire gauge and length that Grizzly supplied—for each voltage, and try to see whether my gut tells me it’s worth even an extra nickel…..

-- -- Neil

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#9 posted 11-16-2009 03:22 AM

I submitted my last post before David’s and Chunk’s replies.

David (trying really hard not to just skip right to Chunk’s post….): your points—as always—are excellent. Each time I use my table saw, I realize that it needs a home, and that it really needs to be more central to whatever my work area is. As to a bench, exactly right, too. Definitely dedicate the existing thing to bike wrenching, and get a workbench AND an assembly bench (the one we don’t clutter up, right?) going. I have another 15 or so lineal feet off behind the table saw that I can expand into.

The cabinet thing is probably going to have to coincide with the frame-out of The Other Side. I love that “French Cleat” idea that people are using, and don’t know if I just want to put it up in the concrete.

Thanks, as always, for your info and your poetry.

Chunk: Can I just get you to come down here, I’ll buy you a couple of beers, and we’ll go over the details?

I’m not good with text, but I’m sure we could work out some imagery that would help you, me, AND Diana truly understand what you’re getting at :-)

-- -- Neil

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#10 posted 11-16-2009 03:23 AM

No increase in power, although I have heard they start a little faster due to the current draw problem. These are all 110/220 devices. The Delta DC I have is notorious for drawing a lot of current. My wife could see lights dim and such, and it caused trouble with her long arm quilter (computerized). So I decided to put the saws on 220 after putting the DC on 220 helped out her problem. Then I will probably put a line conditioner on her quilter circuit. Unless you are into multiphase stuff, and I don’t think you are, there is no reason you can’t run 220v out of any standard panel, just need a different breaker, they take up two slots. Switches are different, the sockets are different, but the wiring really isn’t much different.

By the way, I finished the wiring, now I have to convert the saws tomorrow.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#11 posted 11-16-2009 03:36 AM

Jim Thanks for that. Congrats on completion. Hope you can still sign your name after all of that!

Computerized long arm quilter, huh? When I told an old acquaintance that we’d just bought my wife a new Bernina, he mentioned that HIS wife “has a BabyLoc… and a Gammil longarm.”

(Maybe your wife will know these brands … or has one ….)

That meant as much to me as the SawStop meant to my wife, but I did learn this: these ladies … they DO have THEIR fun, too, don’t they?

I’ll e-mail the electrician about the 220V. I understand the basic premise of how they get back to that voltage. I think the original builder of our house was just trying to avoid it ;-) I’d think there’s precious little downside. No multi-phase … yet … but … 6mos ago … who knew there’d be a Grizzly in my house :-)

-- -- Neil

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#12 posted 11-16-2009 03:47 AM

Fortunately she didn’t buy a Gammill, actually I bought her the Handy Quilter for Xmas, which costs about half. Most people who own a Gammill try to make money with it. It is pretty spendy for a hobby machine. Sherie is just into quilting as a hobby. For the price of that Handy Quilter I could buy a lot of neat power tools….........

But then Sherie is flying down to Salt Lake City this spring to take a week long course in how to run it. Hmmmmmmmmm. Gad zooks hobbies are expensive.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#13 posted 11-16-2009 03:49 AM

Neil, this is a nice looking shop that you have to work in. It is almost too clean and neat. Don’t you ever do any work in there? :) Seriously it does look pretty good in there and it is wonderful to have natural light coming into your shop. Personally I find working under natural light to be preferable to fluorescent lighting. It looks like you have plenty of headroom in there as well. And I can see that you have it heated as well. I am sure that comes in handy and keeps it comfortable enough to work in there during the winter. I have thought about tapping into the trunk line that runs through my shop and adding a vent like you have in yours. Do you have any problems with sawdust getting into the duct that you have noticed?

It looks like you have a nice set of tools. And you have plenty of room to maneuver between the different tools stations. I would enjoy working in your shop.

Thanks for the pictures. I enjoyed touring your shop.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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Jim Bertelson

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#14 posted 11-16-2009 03:49 AM


I can barely write my name, although I can still type….......tomorrow, when I get a day off I hoped I don’t remember how to sign my name….(-:

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#15 posted 11-16-2009 04:03 AM

Scott: thanks much.

I really had a decision to make about garage vs. basement. Two-car garage, though, six bicycles, a motorcycle, and the usual garbage. Though I DID remember to get LOTS of electrical IN the garage, ... for whatever reason … I went with basement. In part, our neighborhood is homes on tiny lots. I knew that even daytime power tool use could be a nuisance to our neighbors, despite an insulated garage (you’d want the door open, anyway, right)?

So … yeah … natural light is at a premium, and my eyes really don’t enjoy fluorescent. I may add incandescent/other task lights in a few key spots. I understand there’s a blend (in addition to those “full spectrum bulbs”) that rather mimics natural.

We actually zoned the HVAC system in our home, so the basement is its own zone, but—despite being in No. Colorado … it seems to stay awfully constant (right now: 66F) without doing anything. I have a HEPA filter on the house, though, and keep the basement zone’s FAN set to medium or high, just so I keep positive pressure AND a bit of fresh air. The intake is on the main level, so … no dust issues, there.

9’ ceilings.

When we negotiated the house, they quoted us an OUTRAGEOUS price for the upgrade, so we passed. But … they screwed up when pouring it, and informed us that we got it anyway, and for free [I’m now taking the obligatory bow].

I love it. It would finish out at about 8’8” or so, throughout—probably except the trunk.

I think you can see there’s actually some WIP (Work in Progress) on the sawhorses, right now (I photo-shopped it in). That’s my Tall Oak Mirror. Plus, after any significant progress, I DO tend to work the Shop-Vac pretty hard. It tracks right up the stairs if I don’t.

Lastly, I thought this stuff was a lot like fishing: I was about 30 before somebody explained to me that … fishing … really wasn’t about catching anything ;-)

-- -- Neil

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