Shaker Night Stand #5: I lost count. Something like tenon a row (bad pun)

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Blog entry by NBeener posted 12-24-2009 10:29 PM 1935 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’ve met my goal of hitting the shop, for one or two sessions each day.

My eyes are pretty seriously fried today, though, so … quite likely … today is a day off :-(

But … where I am….:

All the hardwood is cut. All of the tenons are cut (did one or two on the band saw, but found it more fun cutting them with the table saw, and the Incra 1000SE miter gauge).

So far … everything’s going quite well!

Had a bad thought, though. I remember my brother being rather surprised that I bought the ten inch Forrester Dado King dado stack. He thought that was probably overkill.

I wondered …. whether it was worse than that.

It was.

My Bosch table saw owner’s manual says specifically not to use a dado set greater than 8” diameter.

The set goes back, then (sigh).

I’ll cut my dadoes with the router, then, and either replace the Forrester after the holidays or … just … enjoy having a pile of money back in my pocket ;-)

The mahogany plywood panels are cut for the sides and the back. They’re nicely rabbeted. I have drawer boxes to cut next.

Still haven’t set up the mortiser, so … cutting some more ply, cutting dadoes, and then (Eek!) mortising … are the next things on the agenda.

It’s about 15 degrees outside. There’s snow on the ground. The skies are blue. The sun is shining. I may go enjoy the outside world for a while :-)

Happy Holidays to all y’all!

-- -- Neil

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Jim Bertelson

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#1 posted 12-24-2009 10:40 PM

Hear you re the dado set. I bought an 8” set, and I have used it, and it seemed to work OK on my old Delta Contractor’s saw, granted, it is tricked out.

Gray and 24 deg here. Off to wrap presents.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#2 posted 12-24-2009 10:57 PM

good move on stopping , if your eyes are fried .

please don’t rush ,

we can wait !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#3 posted 12-24-2009 11:04 PM

Yeah, my table saw manual says the same thing, which surprised me at first – my newbie mind says since it uses a 10” blade it would require a 10” dado blade to match… But when you think about it, it makes perfect sense. The table saw has to do much more work spinning multiple blades, and with cylinders (which blades really are) the volume grows quite quickly as the radius increases (pi x r^2 x height)... a single 8” dado blade then has approximately 6.28 cu in of volume (3.1415927×16 x .125) while a regular kerf 10” blade has about 9.82 (3.1415927×25 x .125) cu in, assuming I didn’t screw up my math…

So, spinning just the inner and outer cutters together on an 8” dado, and you’re spinning more metal than a single 10” blade already. Also, they made me take too much math in college :D

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#4 posted 12-25-2009 05:21 AM

Merry Christmas, enjot the outside, I shoveled twice and went sledding. Even though the dresser isn’t done yet my daughter loves it. Thats cool cause she is eleven, what kid wants furniture for Christmas. Oh yeah mortising isn’t that bad just practice a little first. Sounds like things are going along well for you.
Good luck

-- Even a broken clock is right twice a day, unless, it moves at half speed like ....-As the Saw Turns

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#5 posted 12-25-2009 08:17 PM

Jimi: I will not—in a public forum—admit to how many decimal places of Pi I have memorized ;-) You’re right on the money, though. I ordered the 6” version of the Forrest Dado King. My brother recommends waiting for the dado blade, doing all but the last 1/64th of the dado with the blades, and then taking the last 64th down with the router’s straight bit. Sounds logical to me.

3fingerpat: Thank you. I saw your post. Sure could have been worse. What was your final decision on how to proceed, and how did it come out?

Andrew: Obviously, you raised your daughter right :-) I’m definitely going to practice, practice, practice mortising … probably this afternoon. I braved the elements and went jogging this morning. I’d have gone sledding, but … I’d have to borrow one of the neighbors’ kids to make it look legit, and … they seemed pretty occupied, this Xmas Day ;-)

Finally tried the “vroom, vroom” thing, incidentally. My bike seemed to like it!

I’ll tell ya: I’m feeling rather ‘stressed,’ in the shop.

I feel like I knocked out a small handful of beginner ww projects, and then took a flying leap into some fairly advanced stuff … these night stands! It IS going pretty well, but … I get less shop time than usual (before my eyes start giving out), and I think it is because I’m doing so many things, for this project, that I’ve never done before.

But … that’s how we learn, right?

Patron: Thanks, as always, for your wisdom (and unfailing patience!). Like the glaciers, I will keep moving :-)

-- -- Neil

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#6 posted 12-25-2009 11:56 PM

You are markedly braver than me, I am even procrasting on my sled…........not really. I believe I will start working on it tomorrow. With any luck I will also work on it over the New Year’s weekend when I am on call for 4 days. I redid my RAS table on a weekend when I was on call.

There is one thing that I found I have to be wary of when I am on call, and that is my beeper, which is usually on vibrate mode. I actually had it go off as I was starting a cut to remove a tag, that was insanely placed on a very good wire cutter, a large Knipex that cuts 16d nails with ease, it actually showed a box knife to demonstrate how to remove the tag. There was no way to remove it without having your hand in the line of the cut. Actually, the only safe way to do it is to put the pliers in a wood vise. Well, I cut my thumb due to the beeper going off, because it can be startling. No you can’t use a scissors, it is moulded to the pliers. Truly idiotic, insane, and inherently dangerous.

Moral of story, put the beeper on audible and set it on one of the benches.

I am cooking a large prime rib roast, larger than I need, only 7 people for dinner, was thinking closer to 10. The left overs will be great, may foist some off on the relatives. As usual, I am in digital mode. Sherie couldn’t find the meat thermometer I wanted, so she got one of the digital ones with a remote. So I am monitoring that obscenely priced piece of meat in my office, internal temp currently 107 degrees, think I will turn down the oven so it doesn’t get done too quick

When I was in high school remember trying to memorize umpteen decimal places for pi. Now just push a button on the calculator. Started out in physics, so was into those things also.

Got a block plane and some relief carving chisels for Christmas. Looking forward to playing with those. Tomorrow AM will make a little box for my digital meat thermometer, too many pieces.

So have a good one….........

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#7 posted 12-26-2009 12:58 AM

JimBertelson: thanks for reminding me (us) that even preparing to DO woodworking can be inherently dangerous. Yikes! Heal quickly, and please don’t augment the au jus, unnecessarily ;-)

As to the dinner: sounds scrumptious. I happen to know that Grizzman has your back with regard to leftover prime rib. He likes his with potatoes. This time of year, dry ice shipping is probably unnecessary !!

”So I am monitoring that obscenely priced piece of meat in my office”

I’m just going to guess that—in the history of the English language—that sentence has never been typed before LOL!! A true gadget geek! I salute you :-)

Good Xmas scores. ISTR that you now have two electrical-related shop injuries. If you can keep the planes/chisels separate from electrical adventures …. you should be fine!

DaveR: My peepers may (still) be all beaten up, but … you’re right: I can still work the shutter button:

An acute case of shop-induced tenon-itis ;-)

[With apologies to Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd]—“It’s duck season.” “No. It’s rabbet season.”

Side and back panels … all rabbeted and happy:

Went shopping … in prep for the glue-up of the top boards:

But … despite a fairly early-morning jog in 12 degree weather … I haven’t gotten my shop eyes back. Ah, well. Tomorrow’s another day….

And … now that it’s enlarged on my monitor … I can see table saw blade kerf marks in my tenons. Hmm. I hope I left enough margin for some fine sanding. If not … I hope I can adjust my mortises accordingly.

Hmmmm. ;-)

-- -- Neil

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Jim Bertelson

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#8 posted 12-26-2009 05:51 AM


‘Harriet, you all seen the new secretary…huh.’
‘Have I seen her? Why I wrote her first paycheck today, an advance at that, you have no idea what he is paying her. Caroline, this may be the last straw. I always thought the boss had eyes for only me…….you won’t believe what Neil had me do. Just about turned in my resignation.’

‘Well, just come out wid it Harriet …you’se know, there’s no secrets ‘tween us good friends.’

‘Not trying to be coy, but he had the gall, even after last years Christmas party, and you know we got to be, you know, more than just good friends…..he actually asked me to figure out what to get her for her birthday, it’s next week. You know, he wants….. he wants me, to evesdrop on her conversations.’ ‘So I am monitoring that obscenely priced piece of meat, in my office. And guess what…..she is talking, to guess who, her husband……and says she wants a new caddy convertible for her birthday.’
‘But Harriet she don’t wear no ring……..her fingers are bare!’
‘Well, Caroline, I watched her close as she left the office yesterday…….sure enough, reached in her purse and slipped on a ring.’
‘So, what should I do Caroline, inform the cad that she is married, or tell him what she wants for her birthday……?’

Straight out of your memoirs Neil. Sorry. Thanks for being subtle. Yup, that was your line. Promise, I’ll give you credit next time. We still friends?

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#9 posted 12-26-2009 06:00 AM

Wow I’m Really getting concerned about your post Neil “tenon in a row,Elmer Fudd, Rabbit season? ”
You must bet catching that corn flu that I’ve had for some time. :-))

-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#10 posted 12-27-2009 08:45 PM

JimB: LOL!! Having just ruined the most exciting part of my memoirs, I can finally stop writing them :-)

You also effectively put the kibosh on my claim that those words had never been written before. Touche!

a1Jim: I think I have to start wearing my breathing mask when I’m tenoning mahogany. May have been taking in a little too much ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#11 posted 12-29-2009 09:29 PM

Neil in Wonderland? The project seems to be coming along nicely.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#12 posted 01-12-2010 06:07 AM

The tenons looks great.

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