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Tools Anonymous #8: My three Stanleys

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Blog entry by Sandra posted 03-14-2013 04:21 PM 1230 reads 0 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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For better or worse, I’ve dipped my foot in the handtool pool.

A few weeks ago, I purchased a lovely ‘tricked out’ Stanley #4 from Don W. as well as a Sweetheart #3 from an anonymous LJ. Both planes were auctioned off by LukieB for charity.

While I was waiting for the planes to make it across the border, I picked up a Bailey Stanley #4 that looked like this:

I wanted to take one apart and understand how it works before possibly ruining all the work that was already put into the planes I purchased. I also started reading Hand Tool Essentials by Pop WW. I can’t recall who suggested that book, but it was good advice.

After some CLR, steel wool, elbow grease and rustoleum, the Bailey looked like this:

Flattening the sole was an onerous task to say the least, considering all I had to work with were two 6” diamond stones. (Should have bought the larger ones, should have bought the larger ones, should have bought the larger ones) I had the same issue with the blade, but got it done.

There’s still a dark strip through the centre, which I presume is a low spot, but it’s a shiny low spot if that’s what it is. After hours I decided that for now it would do. Flattening the sides was far easier.

Getting it ready for use was interesting, but not so bad. Here are my first results from a rough piece of birch:

The main issue is now my worktable. The durabench was skittering across the concrete floor making it very difficult to use the plane. I certainly didn’t get nice curls, but it’s a start.

And THEN yesterday, both planes arrived.
The Stanley #4 from Don W was ready to use out of the box and looked like this:

Again the workbench proved to be a problem.

The lovely #3 sweetheart from the anonymous LJ was probably also ready to go out of the box, but I promptly took it apart to see how the y yoke works. It’s back together and did well considering the user and the workbench.

So here are my three Stanleys. The one on the far right is the #4 I cleaned up, the centre one is the #4 that Don W tricked out, and the one to the left is the lovely sweetheart #3

For the record, the shipping for each of the planes was over 35$US, so these guys ended up paying cash to auction their planes off for charity.

Now, it’s back to working on my workbench so that I have a sturdy base for using my new tools.

Thanks for looking,
Sandra

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.



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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 03-14-2013 04:34 PM

I have yet to attempt hand tools. Afraid of seeing too much blood. Good luck with your adventure.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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JayT

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#2 posted 03-14-2013 04:37 PM

Welcome to Hand Plane Addicts Anonymous, Sandra. Kudos to you for wanting to learn how the tool works before using it and nice job on the cleanup.

A couple tips for you. I find the best way to flatten is sandpaper on a flat reference surface. I use a granite cut-off, but others use MDF, the top of a table saw or jointer bed. Start at 80 or 100 grit and work up. I usually stop at 220, but have gone to 400 on a couple. A full sheet of sandpaper or a 2-1/2 in wide roll (what I use) will give you a lot more area to work with and the flattening process goes quicker. Some people use spray adhesive to hold the sandpaper in place. If you use a Sharpie to draw diagonal lines on the sole about an inch apart, you will see where the low spots are after a little work on the sandpaper.

Second tip—practice your sharpening! A smoother needs to be shaving sharp and touched up frequently for the best results. A sharp blade and very light cuts will give the best results. Other planes for rough work, like a jack, will have slightly different techniques.

Good luck!

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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JoeinGa

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#3 posted 03-14-2013 04:46 PM

I think you did a GREAT job on the one you did. But you DO realize now (dont you) that this is an addiction that will not be quenched easily (nor cheaply).. Good luck with that :-)

-- Perform A Random Act Of Kindness Today ... Pay It Forward

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Bagtown

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#4 posted 03-14-2013 04:52 PM

Looking good Sandra.

-- Mike - In Fort McMurray Alberta

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DIYaholic

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#5 posted 03-14-2013 04:52 PM

Watch your step….
It is a slippery slope!!! At least, so I am told.

Your bench will come in very handy at a most opportune time.

I have done one plane rehab & have several more to go. I think it is time that I also build a “proper” bench. “Proper” being a very loosely defined word!!!

Have fun with your new toys!!! YES, TOY is correct word, when used amongst yourself….
TOOL is used in the presence of others!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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Jamie Speirs

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#6 posted 03-14-2013 05:24 PM

Great planes Sandra, you will get to love the trip to the oil ston

Those are great folk though they give regardless

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Grumpymike

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#7 posted 03-14-2013 06:47 PM

Oh my, you have taken “One Step Beyond”... And you will never be the same again.
Re-read JayT’s post … good advise. I use a piece of granite tile that had a corner knocked off and HD gave it to me for a buck. Works great.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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Julian

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#8 posted 03-14-2013 07:23 PM

Nice job on restoring the planes. There are many good tips and advise to help make plane restoration easier. Just like anything else; the more you do something the better you get. Using a plane that you restored is pure pleasure.

-- Julian

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Dennisgrosen

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#9 posted 03-14-2013 08:47 PM

oh no another one to beat on the bay ….. LOL

congrat´s with the new toy´s :-)
I hope you realises that there is no way back from the slippery lane on the handtool highway :-)

enjoy …. enjoy while you change lifestile …. remember it ain´t a workout but you don´t have to pay
for being in the gym anymore …. :-))))))

take care
Dennis

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BigRedKnothead

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#10 posted 03-14-2013 09:17 PM

Good fun. Ditto about the sandpaper on a flat surface. Love this stuff
I think I told you about the book. The more you learn about your hand tools and their setups, the more effective you will be with them.
Also just finished, “Hand Tools: Their Ways and Workings” By Aldren Watson. Another very good hand tool 101 book. At steal at $16 on amazon. Have fun.

btw, I’m sure you saw free shipping at Lee Valley announced today. Right in time for my Bday. Those rascals.

-- Red-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#11 posted 03-14-2013 09:41 PM

Great to see, Congrats Sandra!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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boxcarmarty

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#12 posted 03-14-2013 10:20 PM

Sweet, Does your husband know you’re messing around with Stanley???

-- My mind is like lighting, one brilliant flash, then its gone.....

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JoeinGa

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#13 posted 03-14-2013 10:39 PM

Hey Marty, it aint just Stanley she’s messin’ with. She’s messing with THREE of them!
There’s Stanley, and his other brother Stanley, and their evil twin cousin BAILEY too. It’s a ”Group Grope” LOL

-- Perform A Random Act Of Kindness Today ... Pay It Forward

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Sandra

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#14 posted 03-14-2013 11:06 PM

Good chuckle gents, thanks for all the comments.

JayT – I read your post and thought “duh”. I had read about using adhesive and sandpaper and I remember thinking ‘what a great idea!’ Why I didn’t think of it for the planer, I don’t know. Next time for sure. I have a thick piece of glass shelving with rounded edges that would be ideal.

Dan – thanks for the book recommendation. The best part of the book was the diagram naming the parts of the plane! It was very helpful in taking them apart and putting them back together and understanding how they work.
I’ve never been very mechanical, but I’m learning bit by bit. And NO, I WILL NOT GO ON LEE VALLEY TONIGHT AND BUY SOMETHING…. (repeat to self numerous times)

I’m thinking that a nice little block plane may be in order….. After the workbench. A

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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DocSavage45

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#15 posted 03-14-2013 11:14 PM

Thinking we hadn’t heard from you in awhile. appears you are moving farthur into your journey!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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