Random unanswered ww questions #1: The questions I'm too embarrassed to ask the neighbour.....

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Blog entry by Sandra posted 10-29-2012 02:50 AM 1728 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Sorry folks, Vague questions as a result of midnight ramblings. Will be in the shop today and will either figure it out or take some pictures.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 10-29-2012 02:57 AM

There has to be an adjustment on that router to make easy adjustments. All are different though. Just gotta play with it.

Adjustments with the fence should be the same. Just need to play with a bunch of scrap wood and see what adjustment gives you the desired outcome. Hopefully that makes sense.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#2 posted 10-29-2012 03:23 AM

Coping is cutting the profile into the second piece so when you butt the pieces together, the coped piece will fit up against the other piece. A little more work than just hitting it with a miter saw but the measuring becomes much easier and one piece is just a straight cut.

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#3 posted 10-29-2012 03:37 AM

1. Pictures. Show us a picture of the depth adjustment on the router, or at least tell us the model no. so we can find the manual on line. My first router was a Ryobi, and as I recall, there was a threaded ring around the motor, and the motor housing itself was threaded, and depth was adjusted by turning the ring. You lost me when you said you brace the corner on your router table. Corner of what? Why?

2. Don’t know what to say except the useless, “well, it SHOULD read the distance to the blade”. How far off is it? Most saws have an adjustable pointer, but it has only about 1/4” adjustment. How about use the tape measure to set the fence an easy distance from the blade, say 6”, and take a picture of what the scale is showing. Is the scale on a tube attached to the saw? Could it be that the tube is offset one bolt hole to the right or left? Model no.?

Edit: Is it the model 4100? The manual says it’s got 2 scales; make sure you’re looking at the lower one on rips up to 13.5” and the upper one beyond that. There’s also mention of a “table pointer”. I can’t tell just from looking at the manual, but it looks like an entire wing of the table moves out for rips wider than 13.5”. Can you clarify this?

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#4 posted 10-29-2012 08:13 AM


Often the two 45degree cuts for interior corners on molding are not at 45 degrees ..Not cabinetry. LOL! so a coping saw is used to cut the wood alond the contour of the joint. Tommy silva or Norn Abrams should have a good example stated clearly.

Fence tape may not be set up accurately. Or there may be a way to zero the hair line through an adjusting screw?

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#5 posted 10-30-2012 01:01 AM

here is the best i can do sandra

i have a ryobi router and table too
all for $100 bucks

it is not the best but does some decent work
so long as i don’t have to change the bit to often
the lock for the router itself is on the back of the table
and a shield is in the way (will take it off soon)

at the front of the router the orange and black band is the fine adjuster
and the orange one has the fractions on it
and is turned to whatever micro adjustment is needed
then the black one is turned to do that (supposedly)
i have not had much luck with mine either
as there is to much going on for my big hands
unless i flip the table on it’s side and do the best i can there
the router has a set screw (shown over the little arrow)
that keeps the whole router from spinning too
and just go up and down
but it keeps the router from coming out of the base
which is screwed to the table
making it almost impossible to get a wrench to the collet nut
to loosen or tighten the bit (just bad for under table mounts)

on the fence reading question
many saws come with the tape as a peel and stick on
and need to be placed when the fence is aligned
and working right
the cursor window has a set of screws to move it back and forth
to get it right with your tape measure first
(from the inside of the blade or what the board will be)

if the tape was not placed right to begin with
you won’t find a reading anywhere that works
they can be bought and placed where they are right with the fence settings
(i have portable saw too
that has the right side table that moves for wider cut
and has a multi scale on it one for close and one for extended
(and in metric too) so reading them is important
on cheaper saws i use my tape for final measurements too
as the fences can go goofy sometimes

OK moving on to coped joints
all parts (moldings) are measured wall to wall
the first can be cut to length square and installed
the second (the coped one) is cut at a 45 angle full length
(back side the full measure)
and cut 90
at the profile (shown here at the black line)

now just cut there with a coping saw
(i used my bandsaw as i can’t find the coping saw)

it should look like the reverse
of the face profile

now they should match up

this was some molding i made myself
and is more complicated that the ones from the store
but it is what i had laying around
(on outside corners there isn’t any way to cope them
you would be working against the back side
and have to cope the end of the protruding one anyway
so fitted miters are what work0

if it is to be painted (like many rooms)
some painters caulk and you are good to go

hope this clarified some of your questions

be safe !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#6 posted 10-30-2012 12:56 PM

Thanks so much, the pictures made a lot of sense. I really appreciate the time you put into your post. I worked with my Ryobi router last night and used the fine adjustment wheel without much luck either. I’m just about finished a project and will post some pictures along with pictures of the router.

Thanks again and have a good one,


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