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Brides Heirloom Planes Restoration #1: Where we are now...

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Blog entry by Maveric777 posted 01-08-2011 01:35 AM 1552 reads 0 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I wanted to take a little time to let everyone know where I am with my pair of hand planes I am restoring. I posted a while back about the Christmas gift I recieved from my Father In-Law (My Most Prized Christmas Gift). To make a long story short I was given two hand planes that belonged and where used by my brides Great Grandfather. I still get goose bumps about opening the box and seeing them for the first time.

This is what I seen when I first opened the box….

One is a 10” Sargent Jack plane (please someone correct me if I am wrong.. I am still learning), and the other is a 14” Fulton smoothing plane. Even though I know these are quite common, and considered mid to low end planes I couldn’t let these things go without doing every thing I can to make them right. So I embarked on my journey to learn hand planes and restore a couple pieces of my brides history. Just the thought of putting them back to work in my shop just flat out tickles me to death…

Ok…. So the first thing I did was use a favorite rust penetrating oil called PB Blaster to help free up all the hardware. I had pretty good success in removing all the hardware except the Fulton’s rear handle anchor bolt. So I decided to go to step two and that was to lap the sole and sides. Here is the setup I used.

(after about 2 hours of work you can see I nearly wore the 80 grit paper out…lol)

Although I still have a good way to go I think I made some decent progress….

Well things where going well until I decided to tackle the anchor bolt on the Fulton. Long story short i thought things went really bad when the bolt snapped off at the base. Nooooo….. Things got bad when the easy out broke off inside the remaining threaded piece.

I decided to quit right there for the day and stew on the problem for a bit (over a few cold ones of course). Normally on something like this i would simply build up the metal again using a mig welder, drill, and tap the hole. The issue there was heat. I was and still am scared to death of getting this to hot and causing any form of warping. So how do i get threads back in there and use less heat?

I thought of this….

So the next day I open the base up and removed all the old thread, easy out, and good metal (not happy about that part) with a small cutting disk. I would rather had drilled it out, but those of you who know… There is no such thing as drilling out an easy out…lol

So here is me cutting the channel to fit the nut….

Here is the shaped nut to fit the contours of the handle and get the slope right….

I then ran into the issue of getting the angle just right for the handle. So I got an idea of using a very small amount of JB on the sides of the nut, using the original handle bolt (the side with good threads), the handle, and clamp everything in place. After I came back a couple of hours later I was able to remove the clamp and find my nut was set at the right angle for the handle. I then solwwwwwwly tacked the nut in place. I would only spot weld both sides slightly then walk away and let everything cool down. It took me a couple of hours to get it to the point where I felt it was set solid, but I didn’t want to rush it.

Ugly I know… But it works….lol

Once I felt I got the handle under control I made the decision to drop them off to a local fabrication shop and have them bead blasted. After picking them up this afternoon I knew I made a good call….

Well, that is where I am at now. I still have a ton of work to do, and parts to order this weekend. All in all I am happy how they are coming along. Although I would rather things go a good bit smoother, but the trials I am overcoming to get these where they need to be is going to make them that much more.

Thanks for reading my overly way to long blog describing what I been up to with these planes.

-- Dan ~ Texarkana, Tx.



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patron

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#1 posted 01-08-2011 01:43 AM

great gift
and a great re-build

that you are learning this
from the ‘sole’ up

will teach you many things
for the years to come

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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mafe

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#2 posted 01-08-2011 02:00 AM

Way to go!
So you are full of surprice, a welder also (so we were both playing with that).
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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lou

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#3 posted 01-08-2011 02:04 AM

great story and hope you post some pictures of the finished planes.

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Bob Simmons

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#4 posted 01-08-2011 02:08 AM

Dan…Nice job and thanks for sharing. It’s interesting to see how you solved the problem with the easy out. Very clever. .... Your Bride’s Great Grandfather got to love it! Looking forward to the next post.

-- Bob Simmons, Las Vegas, NV, http://TheApprenticeandTheJourneyman.com

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Beginningwoodworker

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#5 posted 01-08-2011 02:11 AM

Those are a great gift.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#6 posted 01-08-2011 02:38 AM

Dan – Nice save on the handle bolt. Another way around that issue is electrolysis. Dipped long enough in the electorlysis bath would have loosened that bolt enough to be taken out by hand.

Looks like your on the right path. Don’t you just love these old planes. Nice job.

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Triumph1

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#7 posted 01-08-2011 02:48 AM

Great job on these so far Dan! They are cleaning up great. Ahhh…rust and bolts…nice save though. And your a welder also…mine would a straight up job of JB Weld:-) Can’t wait to see the outcome! I am getting spoiled on my end a bit…a coworker of mine has some old hand planes that used to be his grandfathers…he isn’t a woodworker so he is giving me one…I can’t wait to see it.

-- Jeff , Illinois Please...can I stay in the basement a little longer, please!

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bigike

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#8 posted 01-08-2011 04:11 AM

great start. looken good so far.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#9 posted 01-08-2011 04:11 AM

I’ll speak PLANEly you’re doing a SMOOTH job you seem to be a JACK of all trades, but seriously great job & so good to bring them back to the purpose they were made for you will get years of service & pleasure from them
Best
Trevor

-- God created wood that we may create. Trevor East Yorkshire UK

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TJ65

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#10 posted 01-08-2011 05:30 AM

What is it with you guys and your planes ! ? ! ?
Aren’t they just old tools??? :-)

-- Theresa, https://sites.google.com/site/tmj65treasure/

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Rob_n_Wood

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#11 posted 01-08-2011 05:50 AM

Great job I own most of the usual power tools but nothing gives me more pleasure than picking up a hand plane
and making some curls. I have restored a few of my own planes, one was dads and it is highly treasured. Not all people
can understand the emotional value of a tool. Dads plane, Grandpa’s hammer. So I am so pleased that you are
taking the time and care and bringing new life to these family treasures….......... again great job.

-- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson

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Joe Lyddon

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#12 posted 01-08-2011 06:08 AM

You’re making very good progress…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#13 posted 01-08-2011 08:19 AM

I’m glad to see you working on bringing back a bit of your families history. One comment, hopefully taken in a helpful manner in which it is given. Although there is no real definition of Smoothing, Jack, Jointer or Scrub planes, I think most users would agree that a plane about 10” long is a smoothing plane, design to be the last plane used on the wood. A 14” plane would be considered a jack plane, the second plane used on the wood, designed to get the surface flat. A 24” plane would be considered a jointer or joiner plane, designed to make the surface dead flat, especially for edge jointer, often used after the jack and before the smoothing planes. The scrub plane is the first plane used, has a big curve in the blade, is designed for rapid removal of stock to get to the point where one can start to use the jack, and is often an older jack that has had its blade reground. In the Stanely sytem that is so prevalent in describing planes, a Jack is a #5, a Jointer is a # 7 or #8, a Smoothing plane is a # 4 or #3. Hope that gives you some more info.

-- Every cloud has a silver lining

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racerglen

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#14 posted 01-08-2011 12:55 PM

Very nice work Dan.. Looking forward to the grand finale !

Theresa..There’s no tool like an old tool ;-)

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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#15 posted 01-08-2011 07:16 PM

A wise man once said “I love it when a “plane” comes together!” LOL!! You go boy!!

-- If you don't work, you don't eat!.....Garland, TX

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